Lytham_fy8
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It's a bit strange that if you criticise the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by Israel you're immediately labelled an anti semite by some, which is why the media avoid it.
Well you need to complain to the BBC news then for misinformation.Benjamin...... Net-In-Yah-Who already rejected Hamas offer of a cease fire yesterday
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They may well have, but in a war between Israel and Iran there will only be one winner …. and that’s not Tehran.I bet Iran has an itchy trigger finger at the moment
When you can assassinate the Iranian chief nuclear scientist in the way the Israelis did from a remote control gun set inside a van with his wife sat next to him in a car who wasn’t even injured yet he got two shots to the head tells you all you need to know about the Israeli armed forces.They may well have, but in a war between Israel and Iran there will only be one winner …. and that’s not Tehran.
Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map and as we know is desperate for Nuclear weapons.
Israel in the past has vowed they will never have them at any cost.
That’s going to to end well isn’t it?!!!
Surely it would have served Hamas better if they provided evidence of land grab and forced evictions to the UN and demanded real action?
Appealed to the US and Europe and to the Arab States for assistance in the legal challenge.
Built up a media campaign of the real injustice. Peaceful and sustained protest.
Launching missiles indiscriminately into Civilian areas is not going to help their cause no matter how much Israel bully and provoke them.
I don’t recall ever reading about gassing 4 Million Palestinians?“Peaceful and sustained protest!”
You can’t be serious
It’s hard to believe that a nation that was persecuted by the Germans could do the same to the Palestinians ever since they were allowed to move to Palestine just after the end of the 2nd World War.
I don’t recall ever reading about gassing 4 Million Palestinians?
A lot of the latest military tech is from and developed by Israel - the world learns from it!When you can assassinate the Iranian chief nuclear scientist in the way the Israelis did from a remote control gun set inside a van with his wife sat next to him in a car who wasn’t even injured yet he got two shots to the head tells you all you need to know about the Israeli armed forces.
Have all the latest American hardware as well as the latest technology.
Copied technology.A lot of the latest military tech is from and developed by Israel - the world learns from it!
Israel is developing its own tech at speed - It’s a mini Silicon Valley!Copied technology.
But bloody good.
Where did I mention gassing? I don’t recall
I said “persecuted” please read carefully before you comment
Israel over the years has bought some great jet fighters namely the Mirage years ago and developed its own fighter from it (kfir) more recently bought F-15 F-16 and F-35 Lightning.Israel is developing its own tech at speed - It’s a mini Silicon Valley!
Totally agree - but Israel is now one of the tech innovation hubs of the world for its own ingenuity, and not just copying things.Israel over the years has bought some great jet fighters namely the Mirage, F-15 F-16 and developed its own technology from them.
You didn’t but you were comparing them to the Nazis which was uncalled for.
I’ve never been so I can’t really comment, but I’d imagine it’s not the nicest of places.How would you describe living in Gaza then?
What's the fishing like.I’ve never been so I can’t comment.
Very true Lytham, definitely fearful and shows a clear lack of understanding of anything outside his own little bubble (spare bedroom).It's a bit strange that if you criticise the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by Israel you're immediately labelled an anti semite by some, which is why the media avoid it.
Sea fishing probably good, don’t think there’s many Salmon rivers though.What's the fishing like.
I’ve never been so I can’t really comment, but I’d imagine it’s not the nicest of places.
I’ve been to Israel, Tel Aviv, the Red Sea, driven partly on the Gaza Strip and been to Jerusalem.
Tel Aviv was lovely, the rest was a bit of a toilet to be honest and somewhere I wouldn’t choose to live.
Security is at levels that I have never seen and the attitude of most Israelis towards the Palestinians was very similar to what I have seen in South Africa with the white population against the locals!!!
In SA an apartheid is not in place anymore, but in many cases it may as well be.
Football takes you to some different places if you let it!!!!
The last part of your comment is simply ridiculous - and ruins the legitimacy of the comments before.I’ve also spent some months in Israel, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Beersheba, The Negev and the Red Sea area when it was under Israel’s control before it was returned to Egypt.
It was certainly much safer then.
SA is controlled by the ANC completely and utterly. The corruption has been unstoppable for at least the last 10 years all the state companies have been looted.
Similar to what Boris and his mates get up to
The US would never allow that though, they like having their secure little non Arab state in the Middle East.Seems to me like most of the world doesn't care about what's happening over there ,(for what it's worth and I don't do politics) ,the Palestinians may be better off giving up and admit defeat, a bit like Hitler did when he ran away to his bunker ,and concentrate on integrating in Israel (fuck the religion bit) and save generations of children being killed ,it stinks does religion and politics.
This is the year 2021 ,what the fuck is wrong with the world it's gone mad ..
The last part of your comment is simply ridiculous - and ruins the legitimacy of the comments before.
So what’s it like then assuming you researched it?You have been commenting though. You don’t have to live there or to have been there. Just 5 mins of of some basic research and you will be able to extend your knowledge on the conditions of living in Gaza ....
BIG accusations - I assume you have evidence for it?One seriously you think Boris and co are straight up good blokes? They didn’t set up new companies etc to supply PPE for example?
Posts like yours ( note: I don't mean posters like you), just continue the same old attrition.A 60 and a 80 year old women killed and 95 Israeli folk injured and that was just today-Tuesday but hey lets not get your prejudices in the way.
The US would never allow that though, they like having their secure little non Arab state in the Middle East.
None of this is even religion really, its super power intervention to control their own interests.e what
The US would never allow that though, they like having their secure little non Arab state in the Middle East.
None of this is even religion really, its super power intervention to control their own interests.
So tell me what you would do ?.
No it isn't and it hasn't. The centuries old fight has been between religious sects. This is between a modern Nation-State and a people whose nation was taken from them. Religion overlaps, yes, but it does not explain the current tragedy.I think blaming America is a bit of a cop out. This has been going on for centuries before anyone even knew about the USA. As long as they both want to believe in fairy stories that contradict each other it will never end. I’m pretty confident it won’t end in anyone’s lifetime on here.
Fake news was never easier to createI can understand and do support the Scots aims of self-determination. No, I don't support the Tories they are a terrorist-operating leadership but they were elected.
On the U.K. side, they are the State recognised by the UN. But, they continue to act dishonourably, they break agreements and, under Bojo, they are an apartheid regime that has no interest in the two state solution
None of this is going to be solved so long as the U.K. continues to receive complicit Avftt support.
How did you do that?! Is that allowed? Mods...Mods!Fake news was never easier to create
But that gives no solutions to the problem bombing the shit out of the Israelis killing someone's mother and grandmother is going to make the bear even angrier.Posts like yours ( note: I don't mean posters like you), just continue the same old attrition.
Look, I can understand and do support the Palestinians' aims of self-determination. No, I don't support Hamas they are a terrorist-operating leadership but they were elected.
On the Israeli side, they are the State, recognised by the UN. But, they continue to act dishonourable, they break agreements and, under Netenyahu they are an apartheid regime that has no interest in the two state solution
Noe of this is going to be solved so long as Israel continues to receive complicit American support.
And I am no Henry Kissinger. So, I can only rail against bad things - as can you.But that gives no solutions to the problem bombing the shit out of the Israelis killing someone's mother and grandmother is going to make the bear even angrier.
So what's your answer?I’ve also spent some months in Israel, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Beersheba, The Negev and the Red Sea area when it was under Israel’s control before it was returned to Egypt.
It was certainly much safer then.
SA is controlled by the ANC completely and utterly. The corruption has been unstoppable for at least the last 10 years all the state companies have been looted.
Similar to what Boris and his mates get up to
Give over, the fundamental problem here is religion, always has been always will be.No it isn't and it hasn't. The centuries old fight has been between religious sects. This is between a modern Nation-State and a people whose nation was taken from them. Religion overlaps, yes, but it does not explain the current tragedy.
I don’t believe that. The fundamental issue is land for all and the ability to live peacefully on it for a happy family life. Religion is secondary.Give over, the fundamental problem here is religion, always has been always will be.
You are forgetting the creation of Israel in 1948, taking Palestine and part of Jordan and, ashamedly, based on the 1918 Balfour declaration of finding a home for the Zionist Jews.Give over, the fundamental problem here is religion, always has been always will be.
Agree to disagreeI don’t believe that. The fundamental issue is land for all and the ability to live peacefully on it for a happy family life. Religion is secondary.
I’m not forgetting anything. I know the story.You are forgetting the creation of Israel in 1948, taking Palestine and part of Jordan and, ashamedly, based on the 1918 Balfour declaration of finding a home for the Zionist Jews.
It is NOT just about religion. The state of Israel is signed up to a two state solution that includes a homeland for the Palestinians and yet they do everything they can to oppose it. The new homelands on the West Bank were all about filling the area with ex-pat US Zionist extremists. There are negotiable Israelis ( not all are Jews btw) but it's Netenyahu in charge and he ain't for moderating the Jewish expansionist claims.
I wasn't trying to be smug but your post read that way.I’m not forgetting anything. I know the story.
You have your belief in the problem and I have mine. No amount of arguing or point scoring is going to change that.I wasn't trying to be smug but your post read that way.