It’s Sunak

Little Sunak could double up as a top pocket hanky for Sir Graham Brady, if his Premiership fails.
 
Ormergod said:
going to finish the job now

Then he will have the ready made solution all prepared... Central bank digital currency
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A sizeable minority will swear blind that he's fiscally responsible. People in quite responsible jobs / semi intelligent people too. In the same breath, they'll be crying about their bills, shit wage rise, prices shooting up and their mortgage rate.

How to explain that phenomenon as this is the type of thing which puts me off conversing with people at work? I don't know if some people feel they have to polish their opinions to try and look clever or just parrot shit they've heard others say. You definitely get more sense out of people in the pub.
 
rockontommy said:
A sizeable minority will swear blind that he's fiscally responsible. People in quite responsible jobs / semi intelligent people too. In the same breath, they'll be crying about their bills, shit wage rise, prices shooting up and their mortgage rate.

How to explain that phenomenon as this is the type of thing which puts me off conversing with people at work? I don't know if some people feel they have to polish their opinions to try and look clever or just parrot shit they've heard others say. You definitely get more sense out of people in the pub.
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I’m not dragging you into my theories here as I don’t know your stance but to answer your question I don’t think people are ready to accept that this entire thing,COVID,lockdowns,borrowing,money printing,destruction of the currency has been done on purpose to introduce a new financial reset.

The fact people still think the government are on their side amazes me
 
Ormergod said:
I’m not dragging you into my theories here as I don’t know your stance but to answer your question I don’t think people are ready to accept that this entire thing,COVID,lockdowns,borrowing,money printing,destruction of the currency has been done on purpose to introduce a new financial reset.

The fact people still think the government are on their side amazes me
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I understand the Great Reset even if I don't find it plausible just yet. That said, I never thought a vaccine passport was a realistic possibility when first muted. Had more faith in humanity at that point.

The problem is for every person being right about vaccine passports, the same individual will quietly drop their depopulation views. So it's difficult for me to jump fully on board with some of this stuff.

What I'm getting at is how things can be getting quite obviously shitter but the architects of that shittness get smoke blown up their arses, even from those on the left. I just find it weird.
 
EPM46 said:
The first non Christian Prime Minister in charge of a Christian country!
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We're not a Christian country. I bet the majority now couldn't give a toss about religion.

I'm pleased we have a non white Prime Minister, but I'll draw the line if Paul Ince becomes England manager.
 
rockontommy said:
A sizeable minority will swear blind that he's fiscally responsible. People in quite responsible jobs / semi intelligent people too. In the same breath, they'll be crying about their bills, shit wage rise, prices shooting up and their mortgage rate.

How to explain that phenomenon as this is the type of thing which puts me off conversing with people at work? I don't know if some people feel they have to polish their opinions to try and look clever or just parrot shit they've heard others say. You definitely get more sense out of people in the pub.
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Ah yes. The Pub.

The fountain of all knowledge.
 
Ollygon said:
Ah yes. The Pub.

The fountain of all knowledge.
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I thought you might pick up on that one. What could you possibly learn from someone who enjoys a healthy dollop of socialisation and drinks alcohol? A perfect example of the self-styled intelligent person/bonafide halfwit I'm trying to describe.
 
Ollygon said:
rockontommy said:
I understand the Great Reset even if I don't find it plausible just yet. That said, I never thought a vaccine passport was a realistic possibility when first muted. Had more faith in humanity at that point.

The problem is for every person being right about vaccine passports, the same individual will quietly drop their depopulation views. So it's difficult for me to jump fully on board with some of this stuff.

What I'm getting at is how things can be getting quite obviously shitter but the architects of that shittness get smoke blown up their arses, even from those on the left. I just find it weird.
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We're not a Christian country. I bet the majority now couldn't give a toss about religion.

I'm pleased we have a non white Prime Minister, but I'll draw the line if Paul Ince becomes England manager.
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Absolute tosh our head of state is also head of the Church.
The majority of weddings, funeral and Christenings are still done under Christian values.
Remembrance Sunday lead by the church, Christmas,Easter etc to say we're not a Christian country is wrong.
 
Makes you wonder why he wants the job, he clearly doesn’t need the money, and why would anyone with that amount of money want to take what is probably the most difficult job in the country right now. If it goes wrong, he will be absolutely slated and hated.

So I guess he must believe he can sort the mess out.
 
If he puts Rees Mogg on the back benches that would go a long way towards showing us that the madness has stopped!
 
Already showing signs of being impressive with sound judgement. Liam Fox and Michael Gove on the way back, big hitters!!!! If he could find an ambassadorial role for Boris then he’s made a cracking start. In 18 months time it’ll just be a question of how big his winning margin will be 👍
 
poolseasider said:
Absolute tosh our head of state is also head of the Church.
The majority of weddings, funeral and Christenings are still done under Christian values.
Remembrance Sunday lead by the church, Christmas,Easter etc to say we're not a Christian country is wrong.
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I don't think it's tosh. I don't know anybody who goes to church and the events you mention are just piss ups.

It's about time too, it's a load of bollocks.
 
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Memphisboy said:
Already showing signs of being impressive with sound judgement. Liam Fox and Michael Gove on the way back, big hitters!!!! If he could find an ambassadorial role for Boris then he’s made a cracking start. In 18 months time it’ll just be a question of how big his winning margin will be 👍
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Having played a significant part in bringing Boris down in the first place I would be a bit surprised if he offered him a job, or that it would be accepted if he did. There was that Saturday night meeting though?
 
Wizaard said:
Looks like that's happened.
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Yeah just seen that. Sunak is probably going to be putting a lot of the loons that have had such a prominent role in the last 6 years on the back benches. Obviously he can't put himself there but he appears to be sane and semi competent compared to a lot of them!!
 
TheRealKingKenny said:
I don't think it's tosh. I don't know anybody who goes to church and the events you mention are just piss ups.

It's about time too, it's a load of bollocks.
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You don't have to go to Church to be a Christian and believe in God.
My parents,sister,wife and most of her clan believe but don't go on a Sunday morning hardly anyone does its old fashioned but everything from taking your vows to attending a funeral is Christian in this country.
 
Matesrates said:
Makes you wonder why he wants the job, he clearly doesn’t need the money, and why would anyone with that amount of money want to take what is probably the most difficult job in the country right now. If it goes wrong, he will be absolutely slated and hated.
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Why does he want the job? Ego. To be the top dog in the country. Everyone obeying your every instruction instantly. Moving through the upper echelons of society. Gliding through life with others to do the chores for you. On a higher note, the feeling that you are contributing directly to the future of the nation - making it go where you think it should, even if others don't.

On a psychological level, perhaps being PM now fills a little needy hole in the psyche of a 16 year-old, 5ft 5in boy who waited on tables in an Indian restaurant in Southampton to augment his pocket money, being ordered what to do, while probably suffering the "banter" of pissed-up louts having a late-night curry after a night in the pub? Who knows? Only him.

The more relevant question for me is.... why the hell did he want to become the MP for Richmond and have to live in that benighted county of Yaaaarkshire ?
 
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poolseasider said:
You don't have to go to Church to be a Christian and believe in God.
My parents,sister,wife and most of her clan believe but don't go on a Sunday morning hardly anyone does its old fashioned but everything from taking your vows to attending a funeral is Christian in this country.
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Not true mate. You can get married with no mention of religion, I have been to four this year and none were in a church or in the slightest bit religious. Funerals don't have to be religious either.

I guess we'll see what the general populous think when we get the census results.
 
gjr69 said:
If he puts Rees Mogg on the back benches that would go a long way towards showing us that the madness has stopped!
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Agreed. I used to find Rees-Mogg quite amusing, but I have seen the worm turn too many times nowadays.
When it does he is a nasty, supercilious snide.
If this was the Third Reich I am pretty sure he would be the one performing the scientific experiments on children.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Why does he want the job? Ego. To be the top dog in the country. Everyone obeying your every instruction instantly. Moving through the upper echelons of society. Gliding through life with others to do the chores for you. On a higher note, the feeling that you are contributing directly to the future of the nation - making it go where you think it should, even if others don't.

On a psychological level, perhaps being PM now fills a little needy hole in the psyche of a 16 year-old, 5ft 5in boy who waited on tables in an Indian restaurant in Southampton to augment his pocket money, being ordered what to do, while probably suffering the "banter" of pissed-up louts having a late-night curry after a night in the pub? Who knows? Only him.

The more relevant question for me is.... why the hell did he want to become the MP for Richmond and have to live in that benighted country of Yaaaarkshire ?
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The safest of Tory seats.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Relegating Jacob Rees-Mogg to the back benches was an open goal. Easier than frying fish.
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He has retained Cleverly as Foreign Sec and Zahawi is in talks with him ATM. I'm surprised about this, both are Johnson groupies and both seem incompetent. Zahawi's tax affairs are also questionable.
Financial markets warming to Sunak, FTSE 250 up 2.5% and pound rising against $ and Euro
 
poolseasider said:
You don't have to go to Church to be a Christian and believe in God.
My parents,sister,wife and most of her clan believe but don't go on a Sunday morning hardly anyone does its old fashioned but everything from taking your vows to attending a funeral is Christian in this country.
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yes you do have to believe in God to be a Christian, thats the whole point of Christianity.

You dont necesarily have to go to church to be a Christian.

you can go to church and not be a Christian,

It's quite possible to have a non Christian, non religious, wedding or funeral.

The UK is a secular country determined by Parliament in 2007
 
poolseasider said:
Absolute tosh our head of state is also head of the Church.
The majority of weddings, funeral and Christenings are still done under Christian values.
Remembrance Sunday lead by the church, Christmas,Easter etc to say we're not a Christian country is wrong.
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We are not a Christian Country, we simply use Christian style rituals to celebrate certain events.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
He has retained Cleverly as Foreign Sec and Zahawi is in talks with him ATM. I'm surprised about this, both are Johnson groupies and both seem incompetent. Zahawi's tax affairs are also questionable.
Financial markets warming to Sunak, FTSE 250 up 2.5% and pound rising against $ and Euro
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Sue-Ellen back as Home Secretary.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
yes you do have to believe in God to be a Christian, thats the whole point of Christianity.

You dont necesarily have to go to church to be a Christian.

you can go to church and not be a Christian,

It's quite possible to have a non Christian, non religious, wedding or funeral.

The UK is a secular country determined by Parliament in 2007
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Tangerinemoss said:
We are not a Christian Country, we simply use Christian style rituals to celebrate certain events.
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We aren't Christian, just celebrate Easter and Christmas every year. Have a day off lads FFS. Not a single poster on this board fasts for Eid or does Diwali so let's be sensible eh?
 
Tangerinemoss said:
Oh, Rockon, surely you are aware that both festivals at that time of year were celebrated long before Christianity existed. It's a convenient peg.
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Maybe so but Christianity is the bedrock of our society, culture, legal system, the lot.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
NO, 😡 I'm afraid that shows the same authoritarian, if you are against us you are illegal bollux.
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thats a truly frightening appointment on a number of levels, apart from her general bigotry she has just resigned because she broke Parliamentary rules which was unacceptable - a weeks self enforced suspension is the punishment for breaking parliamentary rules now.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
No it really isnt. But I will grant too many people think it is, and too many people think that a Christian basis is a good thing which it definitely isn't
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You aren't being sensible. It's demonstrably true that this country is founded on Christianity. It's like saying the sky is blue. I never made a comment on good/bad btw
 
rockontommy said:
Maybe so but Christianity is the bedrock of our society, culture, legal system, the lot.
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I cannot agree with that, that's like the Christians who ask Humanists how they can have morals if they don't believe in "God". All those things you mention have come from the powerful in the land setting up systems which suited themselves, and used anything they could to legitimise them. The Church was used as a weapon to keep the poor in line. The civil legal system has only ever worked for the rich and powerful, totally contrary to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The hierarchical society in which we are currently enduring a resurgence of the Eton class is based on power, not Christianity, again in total opposition to supposed Christian teachings.
 
rockontommy said:
We aren't Christian, just celebrate Easter and Christmas every year. Have a day off lads FFS. Not a single poster on this board fasts for Eid or does Diwali so let's be sensible eh?
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As it happens, I was at a neighbour's last night for Diwali.
 
rockontommy said:
You aren't being sensible. It's demonstrably true that this country is founded on Christianity. It's like saying the sky is blue. I never made a comment on good/bad btw
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If there is anything that is a foundation of the country it is the Magna Carta.

According to the british library: Magna Carta has consequently acquired a special status as the cornerstone of English liberties. This is despite the fact that the vast majority of its clauses have now been repealed, or in some cases superseded by other legislation such as the Human Rights Act (1998). Magna Carta nonetheless retains enormous symbolic power as an ancient defence against arbitrary and tyrannical rulers, and as a guarantor of individual liberties.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
I'm genuinely intrigued, raab, dorries, Davis, may, ids, surely the big hitters are talented
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seems like the big hitters are there. Legal Sue and Govey too.

to use the cricket analogy, Rishi is captain of the village team, they are 22 for 8 chasing 456 to draw, don't worry he says to the team, as the eighth wicket goes down we've got the new signings the big hitters Quentin the quadraplegic and Billy the blind kid, Guaranteed they weren't top notch in the fielding and bowling part but I'm sue they'll turn it around and save us.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
I cannot agree with that, that's like the Christians who ask Humanists how they can have morals if they don't believe in "God". All those things you mention have come from the powerful in the land setting up systems which suited themselves, and used anything they could to legitimise them. The Church was used as a weapon to keep the poor in line. The civil legal system has only ever worked for the rich and powerful, totally contrary to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The hierarchical society in which we are currently enduring a resurgence of the Eton class is based on power, not Christianity, again in total opposition to supposed Christian teachings.
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Wizaard said:
As it happens, I was at a neighbour's last night for Diwali.
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Costero Poderoso said:
If there is anything that is a foundation of the country it is the Magna Carta.

According to the british library: Magna Carta has consequently acquired a special status as the cornerstone of English liberties. This is despite the fact that the vast majority of its clauses have now been repealed, or in some cases superseded by other legislation such as the Human Rights Act (1998). Magna Carta nonetheless retains enormous symbolic power as an ancient defence against arbitrary and tyrannical rulers, and as a guarantor of individual liberties.
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As I've said, complete waste of time trying to converse with some people. If you can't agree on the basics, the irrefutable facts, no point. Get more sense out of the pub bore.
 
rockontommy said:
As I've said, complete waste of time trying to converse with some people. If you can't agree on the basics, the irrefutable facts, no point. Get more sense out of the pub bore.
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By the way, I agree we live in a country based on a Christian ethic. Whether people are 'religious' or not, the whole basis of our rule of law is based on Christian beliefs, for example.

The whole calendar is similarly structured, whether it be Christmas or Easter as the highlights. Yes, we know there are pagan origins behind that, but that's not the point. Birth and death of Christ are the years highlights.
 
Wizaard said:
By the way, I agree we live in a country based on a Christian ethic. Whether people are 'religious' or not, the whole basis of our rule of law is based on Christian beliefs, for example.

The whole calendar is similarly structured, whether it be Christmas or Easter as the highlights. Yes, we know there are pagan origins behind that, but that's not the point. Birth and death of Christ are the years highlights.
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Cheap chocolate eggs and an over cooked big bird aren't my annual highlights!!😉
 
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