January 2024 Transfer thread.

AmericanTangerine said:
Really hope this is a goer as Carlisle are destined for relegation, and Moxon still hasn't signed a contract despite being offered one in JULY and Carlisle won't want to lose him for nothing in the Summer.

Think it's very easy to look at their position and scoff at the potential of signing him, but the stats suggest he has been one of the best players in League 1 this season.

His performance so far by the numbers compared to other League 1 midfielders (per FotMob):

-91st percentile in chances created.
-96th percentile in successful crosses.
-97th percentile in successful dribbles.
-100th percentile in tackles won.
-100th percentile in duels won.
-98th percentile in aerial duels won.
-81st percentile in interceptions.
-92nd percentile in shot accuracy.

I will be fair and include the less desirable stats too..

-1st percentile in dispossessions.
-1st percentile in dribbled past.
-27th percentile in pass accuracy.
-53rd percentile in long ball accuracy.

WhoseScored Average Match Rating= 7.03 (35 out of 359 League 1 players, 97th percentile)
-The only players we have who are rated higher are Jordan Rhodes at 7.28, James Husband at 7.08 (Karamoko Dembele is at 6.95).

FotMob Average Match Rating= 7.36 (18 out of 359 League 1 players, 98th percentile)
-We do not have any players rated higher than that and the closest ones are James Husband at 7.32, Jordan Rhodes at 7.28, and Karamoko Dembele at 7.24.

The stats indicate to me that he is exactly what we need; a central midfielder who sits deeper than someone like Dembele who can progress the ball, create chances, and still work hard to carry the load defensively.

He certainly has his drawbacks as he is VERY wasteful with the ball, but in a better team I think he would do even better.

In fact, when you factor in that he has been playing on a putrid team, he becomes even more appealing to me. With teams paying close attention to Dembele, Rhodes, and Hamilton, adding Moxon into the mix would allow him to thrive.

There it is, argue with your mothers, because numbers (often) don't lie. 😉
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wow. that is some stats. never realised all the data that is collected
 
If he were to leave, and that's still a fairly big "if" at the moment, I would hope for a replacement to come in. Dougall and Weir going would free up some space - I don't see Connolly or Oakley-Boothe as good enough, so another body in there would be essential IMO.
 
tangysider said:
DM
Norburn, Virtue, Morgan, Oakley Booth, Connolly.
January is not best time to buy players as few are available better than we already have
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Possibly not the best time to buy, but loans with an option to buy in the summer might be worth doing. I don't think the players listed alone are good enough for promotion.
 
I see the Clarke-Harris transfer to Charlton has stalled.
Although a fee has been agreed between the 2 clubs Posh manager Darren Ferguson has stated he believes personal terms are miles away from being agreed and it’s all gone quiet.
 
Lancashire Telegraph reporting us , Bolton and Barnsley intrested in taking Neil Ennis on loan from Blackburn. Striker who scored 14 goals for Plymouth last season
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I see the Clarke-Harris transfer to Charlton has stalled.
Although a fee has been agreed between the 2 clubs Posh manager Darren Ferguson has stated he believes personal terms are miles away from being agreed and it’s all gone quiet.
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Apparently Clarke-Harris wants the same wages as he's on at Peterborough but Charlton aren't willing to pay that because his best years are behind him.
 
Kyle Seasider said:
Apparently Clarke-Harris wants the same wages as he's on at Peterborough but Charlton aren't willing to pay that because his best years are behind him.
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I’m not sure about that he’s still only 29 and the bulk of his goals have all come since 2019 while at Bristol Rovers where he averaged a goal a game and the same for Peterborough where he’s also averaged a goal a game.
At 29 he’ll be looking for financial security that would make him comfortable now to his retirement so I can’t blame him to be honest holding out for more dosh.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I’m not sure about that he’s still only 29 and the bulk of his goals have all come since 2019 while at Bristol Rovers where he averaged a goal a game and the same for Peterborough where he’s also averaged a goal a game.
At 29 he’ll be looking for financial security that would make him comfortable now to his retirement so I can’t blame him to be honest holding out for more dosh.
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I agree with you. I still think he's one of the best strikers in this league and deserves every penny. I wanted us to go for him in the summer. Charlton think differently though and they have Alfie May who is the leagues top scorer right now so they're not exactly desperate. Wouldn't surprise me if he's still at Peterborough at the end of the month.
 
Kyle Seasider said:
I agree with you. I still think he's one of the best strikers in this league and deserves every penny. I wanted us to go for him in the summer. Charlton think differently though and they have Alfie May who is the leagues top scorer right now so they're not exactly desperate. Wouldn't surprise me if he's still at Peterborough at the end of the month.
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Would be a deadly partnership with Rhodes.
 
tangerinespud said:
Left footed centre back cover / replacement for Husband still needed
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With Tharme having departed we are short of a CH as back up. Josh Feeney the young lad at Aston Villa (formerly Fleetwood) was being touted on loan back in July last year given Critchley's Villa connections. At 18 yrs old, I'm not sure if he's ready for the rough and tumble of Lg1 but Villa might think it's exactly what he needs?
 
Lavery, Joseph and Rhodes are more than good enough for this league. We also have CJ, Dembele, and Beesley who can play in forward roles. Realistically, we have limited funds so what we do have we have to spend wisely and on the correct positions. Using a good chunk of the money we have on a 29 year old for a position we're not struggling with isn't the way to go, and I think SS and NC will see it that way too. It isn't our style anyway - we tend to only spend transfer fees on 20-24 year olds who we think we can develop, and for a club in our position I think it's a good policy.

We need a midfielder to replace Dougall, and a left sided CH (as others have said already). Get two quality players in those positions and we'll be very strong in the second half of the season. For once, our injuries appear to be clearing up a bit, so it's quality rather than quantity we need right now.
 
I bleed Tangerine said:
Another link for us. Not exactly an exiting one though.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1745188376016253428
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A lot of our players we sign come from non league. a few hidden gems have been found along the way. nothing wrong with giving young players from non league a chance to shine! not saying all work out for us but yanno. A lot dont even get a reasonable amount of playing time to shine like Ben Garrity, Scott Quigley. Nick Anderton and Douglas Tharme. Would have liked to see Raul Correia play a few games for us too..
 
Seasidedaz said:
If Dougal goes as expected I think we will be straight in for Moxon at Carlisle
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Not too sure about that. With his contract running out at the end of the season and no one putting offers in for him right now, I can see us waiting for summer. Especially if Carlisle are still wanting stupid money for him.
 
Kyle Seasider said:
Not too sure about that. With his contract running out at the end of the season and no one putting offers in for him right now, I can see us waiting for summer. Especially if Carlisle are still wanting stupid money for him.
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You might well be right - I would imagine if we can get him at the right price we will but as you say we might wait till the summer and get him for nothing
 
I see us bringing in at least one more player. I think a midfielder to replace Dougall would make sense.

I see Dan Gore who we were linked with earlier this month has joined Port Vale on loan.
 
We need cover for Husband and also to replace Dougall. With our squad in good shape, there really is no need to panic though, just quietly and patiently go about doing the right business. Players like Moxon are a few days from being worth zero to a club, the power is with the player and buying club.
 
fcblackpool said:
Striker for sure is nailed on imo.
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We currently have:
Rhodes - one of the top scorers in the league
Joseph - back from injury, starting to show promise with goal contributions
Lavery - With a bit of confidence would start scoring again
Beesley - Not great, but a good alternative option up top
Kouassi - Shown promise in the cup, hasn't quite had the same impact in the league.

We do not need anymore strikers! :)
 
We need an experienced centre mid to replace Kenny. Virtue is more of a box-to-box player and I'm not convinced Norburn will stay fit all season.
 
Stu99 said:
We need an experienced centre mid to replace Kenny. Virtue is more of a box-to-box player and I'm not convinced Norburn will stay fit all season.
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This is my worry, Norburn doesn't have the best injury record and we need cover for him. Critchley seems ot see Virtue as cover, but he's also not the best when it comes to injuries. I would really like another midfielder in
 
Free agent list for central midfielders is dire... Josh Onomah or Matty Longstaff anyone...?

Didn't think so...

It'll have to be a loan then.

Doubt we'd go for an academy player this late on in the year. Brighton recalled Weir as soon as it was apparent he was surplus and players like Dan Gore are going to go to clubs who guarantee playing time.

Perhaps an out of favor Championship midfielder on loan then?

Ebou Adams from Cardiff? Andy King from Bristol City? Jay Matete from Sunderland? Dominic Ball from Ipswich?

Most of those are unlikely as I'm sure their clubs will want them at a minimum starting every game.

So the question is who would be willing to loan us a player that is almost assuredly going to be a squad depth piece?

Permanent deals are definitely off the table as whoever we're dealing with will charge a premium.

Carlisle are 10 points adrift and almost assuredly down, but doubt they'd let go of Moxon for less than 500k, which isn't a bad deal IMO, but wouldn't be good value when he'll be a free in 6 months.

Interested to see what rabbits the club pull out of their hat.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Free agent list for central midfielders is dire... Josh Onomah or Matty Longstaff anyone...?

Didn't think so...

It'll have to be a loan then.

Doubt we'd go for an academy player this late on in the year. Brighton recalled Weir as soon as it was apparent he was surplus and players like Dan Gore are going to go to clubs who guarantee playing time.

Perhaps an out of favor Championship midfielder on loan then?

Ebou Adams from Cardiff? Andy King from Bristol City? Jay Matete from Sunderland? Dominic Ball from Ipswich?

Most of those are unlikely as I'm sure their clubs will want them at a minimum starting every game.

So the question is who would be willing to loan us a player that is almost assuredly going to be a squad depth piece?

Permanent deals are definitely off the table as whoever we're dealing with will charge a premium.

Carlisle are 10 points adrift and almost assuredly down, but doubt they'd let go of Moxon for less than 500k, which isn't a bad deal IMO, but wouldn't be good value when he'll be a free in 6 months.

Interested to see what rabbits the club pull out of their hat.
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Good post and I don't see anyone coming in at this stage.
 
My sense of the club from a bit of a distance this season is there isn't an obvious urgency around achieving promotion? More about getting back on track? Presumably there's work going on in the background on the training ground and east stand developments. And maybe some longer term thinking about how the club sustains itself. I doubt Sadler will continue to put £5m a year in. Especially if it only allows us to stand still. We don't have the funds to compete effectively at a higher level, and 5m investment per season is nothing in Championship terms. 🤔
 
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