Jerry Yates in Walkabout after the Hull game

Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Nothing wrong with players having a drink especially after games (or as we non players would say after work)
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I agree, there is nothing wrong with having a drink after a game however, there is having a pint or two and getting blind drunk. I have known a couple of Norwich City lads who were both young and talented, theirs was for the taking with Prem clubs being interestes. One enjoyed his drink and would go out after a home game and get pie eyed, eventually it started to affect his football, family and life, he ended up in the lower divisions. The other would go out after a game but would just drink orange juice or pepsie, his view was after my professional days are ended I can then enjoy myself. He went on to be a Prem league player and international and reap the rewards..

I don't know if this is a normal thing for Yates, it maybe as has been posted a bit of down time after 3 games in 6 days and it being the Christmas period but he needs to look after himself if he wants a truly successful carear and have a go at making the top and make sure he has mates around him who look out for his future.
 
At the end of the season, celebrating promotion or a play-off appearance, this is fine. At this stage of the season, it's inappropriate to behave like a self-glorifying clown, clearly pissed-up and wound up, in public. I suspect Critch feels the same, and I would even go as far as to guess that this might explain why Jerry's appearances have not been as common as we expected. It's obvious from many of the above responses that you will disagree with this, but I feel as very well-rewarded ambassadors of local football clubs, players have a duty to behave respectfully and to look after their bodies, as is required of professional sportsmen.

I like Jerry Yates very much as a player and love his enthusiasm, which is one of the reasons it saddens me to see him behaving in a way which might threaten his career, public image and standing in the game.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Not sure how any player that's known can avoid being filmed. He's surely allowed a social life and a drink as long as it doesn't interfere with his job and that he doesn't do anything stupid.
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Exactly. People moan about footballers being media trained or having no personality then moan when they do.

It’s great to see someone enjoying themselves in the town of their home Club having a few drinks… some on here think that’s gonna turn him into Phil Mitchell.
 
He wasn’t on his own, half the squad were there. It’s not a Jerry Yates problem, they’re clearly celebrating their New Year a day later after having the Hull game on NYE. Don’t see the problem unless it’s every week which is clearly isn’t
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
What a complete load of crap.

If you don’t understand what’s wrong here fair enough but no need to go all childish.
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Calm yourself.

So basically, footballers can’t go out where they play? As they might get recognised? Is that what you’re saying?

But what if the footballer is more high profile and could get recognised anywhere? Can he not go out anywhere?
 
Marcusbeansontoast said:
He wasn’t on his own, half the squad were there. It’s not a Jerry Yates problem, they’re clearly celebrating their New Year a day later after having the Hull game on NYE. Don’t see the problem unless it’s every week which is clearly isn’t
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Jeez don’t tell them who he was with 🙈🤣

We’ll have people saying alcohol should be banned in the ground incase they smell it during the game and asked to be subbed.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I must admit you nearly had me there... But think about it...

You're basically saying that

You'd like to go up to the Spirit in the Sky when you die (i.e. You're not dead yet)

but

Before you die and end up at 'Heaven's Gates' you want to go on the piss with Jerry Yates (i.e. You are going on the piss before you've died (and gone to heavens gates) and not that you have not died, but are still at heavens gates and then going on the piss with Jerry who is down on earth anyway)...

If that makes sense...

Just to be clear... the before bit applies to both the dieing bit and also the subsequent being at heavens gates bit... essentially meaning that you want to go on the piss with him before any of it happens...

Glad that's settled
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Its clearly an alive person singing about when they die and they're at heavens gates. They're going to ensure Yates dies too, so he can go on the piss with him.

I'd say its almost an uplifting tale of planned murder.

'When I die and I'm at at heavens gates I'm going to go on the piss with Jerry Yates.'

Pretty clear that the singer will be dead at the point they're wishing about and so must be Jerry.

Now if the singer dies before Jerry and ends up at heavens gates, to go on the piss with a Jerry Yates, but he's not dead yet, then I'm not sure what happens.

Whether God, who doesn't exist, has Jerry in spirit up there anyway, for such occasions, hires him for social events etc, I'll admit I don’t know.

I'm not sure the person who thought this up even consideteded the implications of the chant, which I find appalling. 👎
 
Adams Kebab said:
Calm yourself.

So basically, footballers can’t go out where they play? As they might get recognised? Is that what you’re saying?

But what if the footballer is more high profile and could get recognised anywhere? Can he not go out anywhere?
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No I’am not saying that at all read what I’ve said in my first comments.

Go to a pub go to a restaurant by all means no one will take a picture of you there why would they? but going to a night club in your own town puts you in the spot light for all the wrong reasons and that’s why the person who uploaded the video has done it and that’s why we’re arguing is it right or not.
 
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Let's not judge the lad, Xmas, won the game not another game for a week at least, should be allowed to let off a bit of steam!
 
Norfolk White said:
I agree, there is nothing wrong with having a drink after a game however, there is having a pint or two and getting blind drunk. I have known a couple of Norwich City lads who were both young and talented, theirs was for the taking with Prem clubs being interestes. One enjoyed his drink and would go out after a home game and get pie eyed, eventually it started to affect his football, family and life, he ended up in the lower divisions. The other would go out after a game but would just drink orange juice or pepsie, his view was after my professional days are ended I can then enjoy myself. He went on to be a Prem league player and international and reap the rewards..

I don't know if this is a normal thing for Yates, it maybe as has been posted a bit of down time after 3 games in 6 days and it being the Christmas period but he needs to look after himself if he wants a truly successful carear and have a go at making the top and make sure he has mates around him who look out for his future.
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Judgemental or what?
 
JJpool said:
Its clearly an alive person singing about when they die and they're at heavens gates. They're going to ensure Yates dies too, so he can go on the piss with him.

I'd say its almost an uplifting tale of planned murder.

'When I die and I'm at at heavens gates I'm going to go on the piss with Jerry Yates.'

Pretty clear that the singer will be dead at the point they're wishing about and so must be Jerry.

Now if the singer dies before Jerry and ends up at heavens gates, to go on the piss with a Jerry Yates, but he's not dead yet, then I'm not sure what happens.

Whether God, who doesn't exist, has Jerry in spirit up there anyway, for such occasions, hires him for social events etc, I'll admit I don’t know.

I'm not sure the person who thought this up even consideteded the implications of the chant, which I find appalling. 👎
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There's no sordid murder plot (at least not from the original composer's perspective).. It's an alive person, singing about what they'd like to do before they end up at heavens gate.

The words are not supposed to be "When I die", they're supposed to be "Before I die"

And that's the issue really... Someone or some group of people are singing the wrong words.... I suppose it;s possible that those people / person have murderous intent and have decided to plot to kill Jerry Yates, thereby manipulating the song to reflect their evil plan, but I doubt it.... I think it's the same kind of classic stupidity that resulted in that duffer singing "The Boycott Years Were BAD, We carried heavy loads"...

I'm not sure it matters whether god is real or not either.. The story doesn't need to be real or factual, it just needs to be grammatically consistent and make sense in terms of the potential order of things...

So pretending god exists is fine, however the idea that you could drink with someone who is a) either already dead or b) that is alive but you are already dead is just daft.

I think it might have been @Athers who came up with the general theme, so maybe he could confirm....

I'm sticking to my original plan...

Part A - We're singing about going up to the Spirit in the sky at some future point, when we are dead (however we are not yet dead)

Part B - We're singing about going on the Piss with Jerry Yates, whilst we are both still alive and prior to our death and the subsequent arrival at Heaven's Gates (putting aside any religious beliefs / non beliefs)
 
Only on avftt could you read a thread about a player having a drink, and end up discussing whether you can get to the gates of heaven before you die 🤣

My view is that Yates hasn't changed in all the time he's been here - he is occasionally spotted on a night out but it isn't all the time, it has never affected his performances as far as I can see (because it's always at an appropriate time i.e. immediately after a game), and I'm pretty certain we would've thought twice about offering him a new four year deal if the club thought there was anything to be worried about. So clearly he's not turning up to training pissed or with a hangover etc.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
There's no sordid murder plot (at least not from the original composer's perspective).. It's an alive person, singing about what they'd like to do before they end up at heavens gate.

The words are not supposed to be "When I die", they're supposed to be "Before I die"

And that's the issue really... Someone or some group of people are singing the wrong words.... I suppose it;s possible that those people / person have murderous intent and have decided to plot to kill Jerry Yates, thereby manipulating the song to reflect their evil plan, but I doubt it.... I think it's the same kind of classic stupidity that resulted in that duffer singing "The Boycott Years Were BAD, We carried heavy loads"...

I'm not sure it matters whether god is real or not either.. The story doesn't need to be real or factual, it just needs to be grammatically consistent and make sense in terms of the potential order of things...

So pretending god exists is fine, however the idea that you could drink with someone who is a) either already dead or b) that is alive but you are already dead is just daft.

I think it might have been @Athers who came up with the general theme, so maybe he could confirm....

I'm sticking to my original plan...

Part A - We're singing about going up to the Spirit in the sky at some future point, when we are dead (however we are not yet dead)

Part B - We're singing about going on the Piss with Jerry Yates, whilst we are both still alive and prior to our death and the subsequent arrival at Heaven's Gates (putting aside any religious beliefs / non beliefs)
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All good but what about the pies ?
 
JJpool said:
Its clearly an alive person singing about when they die and they're at heavens gates. They're going to ensure Yates dies too, so he can go on the piss with him.

I'd say its almost an uplifting tale of planned murder.

'When I die and I'm at at heavens gates I'm going to go on the piss with Jerry Yates.'

Pretty clear that the singer will be dead at the point they're wishing about and so must be Jerry.

Now if the singer dies before Jerry and ends up at heavens gates, to go on the piss with a Jerry Yates, but he's not dead yet, then I'm not sure what happens.

Whether God, who doesn't exist, has Jerry in spirit up there anyway, for such occasions, hires him for social events etc, I'll admit I don’t know.

I'm not sure the person who thought this up even consideteded the implications of the chant, which I find appalling. 👎
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It's actually about a rejection of heaven as an idea.

You due, you reach heavens gates, St Peter is all "let's weigh your good deeds against your sin"

and the protagonist is rejecting it - he's essentially signalling that he doesn't believe in the Judeo Christian morality but a more down to earth pre Christian style of communal celebration, of seeking enlightenment in the shared imbibing of ritualistic brews.

"Jerry Yates" is a symbol of an archetypal everyman figure crossed with a shamanic guru who we're going to go "on the piss" with instead of seeking heavenly approval for our actions.

It's about seeking communion with our fellow mortals instead of living for abstract notions of heaven.

Happy to help.
 
"Only on avftt could you read a thread about a player having a drink, and end up discussing whether you can get to the gates of heaven before you die"


Very true 53 but it's the sort of thing that makes the site what it is.

LALA started a good thread yesterday on unpopular opinions and it ended up with folk arguing about life expectancy in Africa.

AVFTT is the gift that keeps giving.
 
Norfolk White said:
I agree, there is nothing wrong with having a drink after a game however, there is having a pint or two and getting blind drunk. I have known a couple of Norwich City lads who were both young and talented, theirs was for the taking with Prem clubs being interestes. One enjoyed his drink and would go out after a home game and get pie eyed, eventually it started to affect his football, family and life, he ended up in the lower divisions. The other would go out after a game but would just drink orange juice or pepsie, his view was after my professional days are ended I can then enjoy myself. He went on to be a Prem league player and international and reap the rewards..

I don't know if this is a normal thing for Yates, it maybe as has been posted a bit of down time after 3 games in 6 days and it being the Christmas period but he needs to look after himself if he wants a truly successful carear and have a go at making the top and make sure he has mates around him who look out for his future.
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What a wonderfully convenient fable. Coincidentally, it is exactly the same concept and moral as the Lazy Mouse/Industrious Mouse, bit with conveniently unnamed Norwich players.
 
I've no problem with this. As mentioned before I heard about a player in the 1960s having a pint in the Bloomfield Club before a match. AVFTT at its finest.
 
So your allowed in Wetherspoon Jerry but not Walkabouts which is also a pub restaurant be it with a later license.

Utter tosh.
 
td53 said:
It's actually about a rejection of heaven as an idea.

You due, you reach heavens gates, St Peter is all "let's weigh your good deeds against your sin"

and the protagonist is rejecting it - he's essentially signalling that he doesn't believe in the Judeo Christian morality but a more down to earth pre Christian style of communal celebration, of seeking enlightenment in the shared imbibing of ritualistic brews.

"Jerry Yates" is a symbol of an archetypal everyman figure crossed with a shamanic guru who we're going to go "on the piss" with instead of seeking heavenly approval for our actions.

It's about seeking communion with our fellow mortals instead of living for abstract notions of heaven.

Happy to help.
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Woah, dude...deep.
 
td53 said:
It's actually about a rejection of heaven as an idea.

You due, you reach heavens gates, St Peter is all "let's weigh your good deeds against your sin"

and the protagonist is rejecting it - he's essentially signalling that he doesn't believe in the Judeo Christian morality but a more down to earth pre Christian style of communal celebration, of seeking enlightenment in the shared imbibing of ritualistic brews.

"Jerry Yates" is a symbol of an archetypal everyman figure crossed with a shamanic guru who we're going to go "on the piss" with instead of seeking heavenly approval for our actions.

It's about seeking communion with our fellow mortals instead of living for abstract notions of heaven.

Happy to help.
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You may be on to something.... It's possible that it's a musical representation of the hypocrisy within the context of Judeo Christian morality. On the one hand the individual talks about his desire to commune with God and experience eternal life, but on the other hand, he still wishes to behave in an immoral way by 'going on the piss' and partaking in the sins of the flesh.
 
They’re all fitness tracked this days in both training and in games. He’s got a week to recover and put in extra session if needed - it might be that he also knew he wasn’t starting on Saturday either.

It’s a perfect week to get COVID if you’re a player, if you’re missing a game then make it the FA cup tie with lower league opposition.

I’m fine with it. Not weekly but when you’ve got recovery time it’s fine.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You may be on to something.... It's possible that it's a musical representation of the hypocrisy within the context of Judeo Christian morality. On the one hand the individual talks about his desire to commune with God and experience eternal life, but on the other hand, he still wishes to behave in an immoral way by 'going on the piss' and partaking in the sins of the flesh.
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Get Rice and Lloyd Webber to score a musical representation out of it.
Jerry Yates Superstar.
 
Macseasider said:
Going on up to the spirit in the sky
That's where I wanna go when I die
BEFORE I die and I'm at heaven's gates
I wanna go on the piss with Jerry Yates

To be honest I'm not keen on these videos of Jerry like this and our supporters encouraging him. Yes it's his spare time but a) it's a bit unprofessional and unbecoming of a modern pro b) he's still representing our club in his downtime.

Maybe I'm just getting old but Jez appears not to need much encouragement.
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
There's no sordid murder plot (at least not from the original composer's perspective).. It's an alive person, singing about what they'd like to do before they end up at heavens gate.

The words are not supposed to be "When I die", they're supposed to be "Before I die"

And that's the issue really... Someone or some group of people are singing the wrong words.... I suppose it;s possible that those people / person have murderous intent and have decided to plot to kill Jerry Yates, thereby manipulating the song to reflect their evil plan, but I doubt it.... I think it's the same kind of classic stupidity that resulted in that duffer singing "The Boycott Years Were BAD, We carried heavy loads"...

I'm not sure it matters whether god is real or not either.. The story doesn't need to be real or factual, it just needs to be grammatically consistent and make sense in terms of the potential order of things...

So pretending god exists is fine, however the idea that you could drink with someone who is a) either already dead or b) that is alive but you are already dead is just daft.

I think it might have been @Athers who came up with the general theme, so maybe he could confirm....

I'm sticking to my original plan...

Part A - We're singing about going up to the Spirit in the sky at some future point, when we are dead (however we are not yet dead)

Part B - We're singing about going on the Piss with Jerry Yates, whilst we are both still alive and prior to our death and the subsequent arrival at Heaven's Gates (putting aside any religious beliefs / non beliefs)
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We can only go off what is sung not what we wish was said by the tangeine faithful.

I think its clear that when they die and are at heavens gates they're going round go on the piss with Jerry Yates.

Thats about the top and bottom of it.

Maybe they should have sung...

Something like.....

🎶 Drink some pints up with my favourite guy

Thats what I wanna do before I die

Going out with all of my mates

We're gonna go on the piss with Jerry Yates

Where we going 🎶
 
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The worst thing about it is he is putting himself in a position whereby some loudmouth wannabe has a pop at him and that results in an injury.

Hopefully someone at the Club has seen this and Jerry has had the stark realities of what could have happened driven into him.
 
It’s the second video of him since he started playing for us 18 months

Bearing in mind his status and the ease with which people are filmed these days he’s not exactly off the rails
 
fcblackpool said:
The worst thing about it is he is putting himself in a position whereby some loudmouth wannabe has a pop at him and that results in an injury.

Hopefully someone at the Club has seen this and Jerry has had the stark realities of what could have happened driven into him.
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I think he has been given the time off (Hartlepool) and will of been unable to drink all over the festive period like the rest of the population, the best time to have a night out and let his hair down with his mates, whom are very lucky to have gone on the piss with Jerry Yates. Totally professional in my book.
 
In a recent. Podcast Brett ormerod recounted a tale from the 2010 playoff final...
It involved holloway buying him four pints the night before because he always had a couple of drinks the night before a game to help him relax.
 
Bloody hell have read through some of these comments. Think some of you sad sacks need to get a grip.
Guys having a well deserved night off. I like how no one noticed Moore there.....
Christ alive its not like you see it every week like the old days when every club in the land the players had "Tuesday club"
Get a grip of yourselves.
 
TowerPWRTrucker said:
Bloody hell have read through some of these comments. Think some of you sad sacks need to get a grip.
Guys having a well deserved night off. I like how no one noticed Moore there.....
Christ alive its not like you see it every week like the old days when every club in the land the players had "Tuesday club"
Get a grip of yourselves.
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Totally agree twice in 18 months Jerry has been filmed on the piss.
23 Goals and & 7 assists in 2021 enough said.
 
I am disappointed that there wasn't a follow on chant of "preston get battered everywhere they go".....
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You may be on to something.... It's possible that it's a musical representation of the hypocrisy within the context of Judeo Christian morality. On the one hand the individual talks about his desire to commune with God and experience eternal life, but on the other hand, he still wishes to behave in an immoral way by 'going on the piss' and partaking in the sins of the flesh.
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On the piss with Jerry Yates is therefore essentially about the tension between present and future self. The potential rewards of the afterlife set against the pleasure of now.

It's song in which the reconciliation of the two is imagined. An earthy afterlife if you like.

*WHERE WE GOING?*
 
td53 said:
On the piss with Jerry Yates is therefore essentially about the tension between present and future self. The potential rewards of the afterlife set against the pleasure of now.

It's song in which the reconciliation of the two is imagined. An earthy afterlife if you like.

*WHERE WE GOING?*
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"Where are we going"...Nobody really knows!!!

And there it is in the 'turnaround' of the song itself... Summing up the futility of the endless life long challenge which pits self-sacrifice and the potential eternal soul against self-indulgence and the body and the blackness of death and nothingness.
 
Macseasider said:
Going on up to the spirit in the sky
That's where I wanna go when I die
When I die and I'm at heaven's gates
I wanna go on the piss with Jerry Yates

To be honest I'm not keen on these videos of Jerry like this and our supporters encouraging him. Yes it's his spare time but a) it's a bit unprofessional and unbecoming of a modern pro b) he's still representing our club in his downtime.

Maybe I'm just getting old but Jez appears not to need much encouragement.
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It's before I die and I'm at heavens gates.

I.E. Going into Walkabout and bumping into your favourite player, not dying to get the privilege.
 
King Billy said:
But why would you be at heavens gates before you die?
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Jeeesus wept


You're not at heavens gates.... The song is about before you die and therefore also before you are at heavens gates


It's like saying before I arrive and I go in the ground, I'm going to nip in the pub for a pint
 
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