Jordan Gabriel

He signed a new contract a few months ago and Hughton said he was looking forward to working with him in the first team squad. Even if Forest are prepared to let him go it won't be for a bargain deal, especially to another championship club that has no right backs!
 
Our signing so far, paired with this link makes me think we’ll line up with a back 5 next season.

Garbs/James at LWB
Gabriel at RWB
 
bfcpete said:
He signed a new contract a few months ago and Hughton said he was looking forward to working with him in the first team squad. Even if Forest are prepared to let him go it won't be for a bargain deal, especially to another championship club that has no right backs!
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The link I saw said he’d be given a chance, not that he was looking forward to working with him,

It’s common knowledge that Hughton wants a complete overhaul this summer, wouldn’t be surprised if JG is surplus to requirements tbh.
 
I like Jordon but wouldnt pay a high fee for him as he wasnt a regular starter for us last season and with us moving up a league you wonder how much game time he would have.
 
I'm not sure Gabriel fits how Hughton sets up defensively and I doubt we'd be pursuing him unless we'd received encouraging signs from Forest/the player/his agent. Think Hughton's 'Looking forward to working with him' was a generic comment about a player out on loan.

The fact that we're seemingly only competing against Portsmouth works in our favour I think; if other Championship clubs were in for him (like with Ballard) Forest might think 'Hang on, we've probably got a player here'.

I think if he were a bit younger Forest would 100% keep him, but he turns 23 in September (personally I think there's a lot of untapped potential with him and that NC could get it out of him).

Fingers crossed it happens. It'd be for a decent fee though; they tied him down to a long term deal before loaning him to us to cover this eventuality.
 
Goforgoal said:
Please forget Turton. He was offered a new contract turned it down and moved on, probably for more money, good on him looking after his family. However he’s gone.
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I don't think the late timing of the contract offer to Turton helped, as the club were waiting to see which division we were in . He had apparently already signed a pre-contract agreement with Huddersfield. Good luck to him and we just move on to someone else.
 
I really liked JG. I thought he progressed really well during the course of the season under the coaching team's guidance. I think he has huge potential and he will get better again next season. If we do manage to sign him we could end up with a really top player on our hands. I also love his enthusiasm, especially for a loan player. He appeared to love his time with us so I guess that will also influence his decision if it's a choice between us and Pompey...
 
Atletico_Seasider said:
I really liked JG. I thought he progressed really well during the course of the season under the coaching team's guidance. I think he has huge potential and he will get better again next season. If we do manage to sign him we could end up with a really top player on our hands. I also love his enthusiasm, especially for a loan player. He appeared to love his time with us so I guess that will also influence his decision if it's a choice between us and Pompey...
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I suspect he will be keen to sign for us. More chance here than Forest. Higher level than Pompey. And Critch, who coached Alexander Barn Owl.
 
Gabriel looked good going forward from right back but could sometimes look a bit lost when played in a starting role a bit further forward so he still has work to do on his game including defensively. Maybe Forest want ready made solutions and don't feel in a position to give him time to develop like we will do. He does seem to have the basic raw materials though that can be polished up over time so I can see the fit with us.
 
gjr69 said:
Barring Ipswich at home for his debut when he and Turton took part in the worst defensive display of the season, can anyone give instances of when Gabriel was obviously undone defensively?
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From memory, Plymouth's last minute equaliser at home. I think he didn't get close to the guy crossing the ball.
 
gjr69 said:
But not that much worse either, Turton also had about 6 years more experience and is the finished article, a steady league 1 defensive utility man.
I think Gabriel has the potential to develop into an all round modern day fullback if we sign him.
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Sure, but as an under study at this stage, I suspect. At Championship level.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
From memory, Plymouth's last minute equaliser at home. I think he didn't get close to the guy crossing the ball.
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So that's one but then it would seem that nobody got close to the Plymouth player getting on the end of the cross either.
The way some people describe him you would think it was one defensive error after another!
He really isn't that bad defensively just as Turton wasn't an impenetrable barrier at the back.
 
voyeur said:
Sure, but as an under study at this stage, I suspect. At Championship level.
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I'm thinking Connolly is primarily a centre back so there are probably two vacancies to fill in the squad at right back, Gabriel and another ideally.
Its the proven championship players that will be hard to come by so maybe we need to hope that these young lads can develop very quickly!!
 
I rate Gabriel as a defender, my worry was his decision making and lack of quality on the ball. I trust Critch & co to work on his weaknesses.
 
voyeur said:
You're misunderstanding me. I'm just saying Gabriel wasn't as good a defender as Turton, in League One. So I'd be wary of using him in the Championship, at this stage.
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WAIT! WAIT!

You want to keep the experienced but limited pro and play him in favour of the kid with bags of potential?

😂 😂 😂

I'm jesting Voy. I kind of agree that Turts mundane reliability was pretty important.
 
td53 said:
WAIT! WAIT!

You want to keep the experienced but limited pro and play him in favour of the kid with bags of potential?

😂 😂 😂

I'm jesting Voy. I kind of agree that Turts mundane reliability was pretty important.
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No, I was very comfortable with Turton going to Udders. 😉
 
Verdad said:
Where did he say “bargain deal” & that pompy are interested ?

Not sure about Gabriel, definitely brings something going forward but think he’s too frail defensively. Quick though and young, so could improve
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He proved to be a very good pacey defender in his time at Bloomfield Road. He is quality in my opinion and I really hope he signs for us…
 
voyeur said:
I don't want Turton back. I just feel we need someone who can defend better than Gabriel did last season. Maybe Gabriel will step up and do that.
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I think he improved a lot defensively. He started looking very raw and by the end of the season, was looking decent both ways. If that improvement continues, I think he'll be a great asset. He has the attitude and his pace and strength in the tackle are good. Continue to benefit from the coaching that created that defensive unit (assuming it wasn't all Calderwood!) and I think he's well worth a punt.
 
We have certainly compensated for the lack of specialist right backs by having the luxury of numbers on the left side - Garbutt, Husband, James and Mitchell
 
Would be a great signing ,the more pace In the side the better he gets forward quickly ,so will get back quickly ,agree his defending needs to improve ,but I think that's more to do with his ability to read the game better ,which i think will be easier In the championship because you get more time to think than in the rush and punt of the lower leagues.
 
gjr69 said:
Barring Ipswich at home for his debut when he and Turton took part in the worst defensive display of the season, can anyone give instances of when Gabriel was obviously undone defensively?
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Was going to ask exactly this. I thought he did fine defensively and can't remember him having any rough games. I'd be interested to know which games this theory is based on.

I'd love this signing. Athletic, "modern-day" fullback with underrated technical ability. He weights a pass better than most L1/Championship fullbacks. If Critch reckons he can defend, get him in.
 
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Make this happen. I expect he will only improve this season. He gets on well with the other players and has the right attitude. Goes a long way to creating a strong team spirit and togetherness.
Also has pace which NC seems to be adding all over the squad. We could have one of the fastest teams in the Championship and that will surprise quite a number. Even experienced players will struggle against sheer pace and talent all over the pitch.
 
gjr69 said:
So that's one but then it would seem that nobody got close to the Plymouth player getting on the end of the cross either.
The way some people describe him you would think it was one defensive error after another!
He really isn't that bad defensively just as Turton wasn't an impenetrable barrier at the back.
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Quite. Turton's defensive qualities were seen to good effect in the first minute of the playoff Final, if you want to highlight errors 😄
 
I really hope this happens. I personally really rated the lad, as others have said, quick, athletic, decent on the ball and seemed to absolutely love it here, his post match celebrations after a win were great viewing! He could play as a right back, right wing back or even right midfield and do a job.

Obviously it's all a matter of opinion and I can understand people looking at last seasons loan players, putting them in order and having Ballard and Simms as the first two, they're both excellent young players, but.....

We have Ekpiteta, Gretarsson, Thornilly, Casey, Connelly and Husband as centre back options. Then we've got Yates, Lavery and Gary Goals upfront, who have we currently got a right back?

I'd love to get Simms and Ballard back and we'd definitely have a stronger squad with all four of last seasons main loan players back, however when you look at our squad and what we currently need my order of priority would be;
Gabriel, Simms, Ballard, Embleton.
 
Gabriel is very very good and will develop into a very competitive Rwb, all players need to be playing regularly in order to be at their best, Jordan can be twice the player he was last season, and will do that in the Championship, I hope its with us
 
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