Kenny Dougall

Let’s all turn on Kenny now we got rid of Maxi, is that the thought for some of our fans ? The guy has given us great service and admittedly hasn’t had a good season but he has been available unlike the two midfield sicknotes aka Stewart and Bridcutt. Kenny needed some support around him and it never materialised hence one of the reasons we are dropping.
 
Dougz said:
Let’s all turn on Kenny now we got rid of Maxi, is that the thought for some of our fans ? The guy has given us great service and admittedly hasn’t had a good season but he has been available unlike the two midfield sicknotes aka Stewart and Bridcutt. Kenny needed some support around him and it never materialised hence one of the reasons we are dropping.
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Regardless of whether he had support or not the fact is that Kenny D is not good enough for the Championship - his passing and crossing are woeful, he is lightweight in the tackle, always has a mistake in him in key areas of the pitch, he struggles to pass to his own teammates and cannot win a header. In Lg1 he is good as that is his natural level but we need to move on from King Kenny if we want out of lg1 and to establish ourselves as a Championship club.
 
Dougz said:
Let’s all turn on Kenny now we got rid of Maxi, is that the thought for some of our fans ? The guy has given us great service and admittedly hasn’t had a good season but he has been available unlike the two midfield sicknotes aka Stewart and Bridcutt. Kenny needed some support around him and it never materialised hence one of the reasons we are dropping.
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Spot on. He'll go down in our history for scoring two not one at a 7/8ths empty Wembley, he's given honest performances throughout. Still people have to snipe. He may move on and may no longer be in the plans but is there any chance people can just show a bit of respect for a good honest pro who does his best? Please?
 
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Seasidedaz said:
Regardless of whether he had support or not the fact is that Kenny D is not good enough for the Championship - his passing and crossing are woeful, he is lightweight in the tackle, always has a mistake in him in key areas of the pitch, he struggles to pass to his own teammates and cannot win a header. In Lg1 he is good as that is his natural level but we need to move on from King Kenny if we want out of lg1 and to establish ourselves as a Championship club.
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I think you could swap the name Kenny D for most of our squad this season.
 
The missing link was a competent manager, we all know individually our players were not the strongest but as a unit they would have had enough if managed correctly. Same with us in the Champ / Prem under Holloway.

He still has a place next season, as do most of the others, including Jerry as I don't see many teams paying money for him.
 
Mark_GT said:
Spot on. He'll go down in our history for scoring two not one at a 7/8ths empty Wembley, he's given honest performances throughout. Still people have to snipe. He may move on and may no longer be in the plans but is there any chance people can just show a bit of respect for a good honest pro who does his best? Please?
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Well said GT

With other midfielders absent this season he was asked inlarge parts to fulfil a deep role that didn't suit his game and abilities...
It was a worry whenever he received the ball from our keeper with his back to the opposition.
 
I think the problem was he had kids around him, no one retained the ball, he was the last man in a midfield that was under relentless pressure and he was in and out of the team like the Hokey Cokey. Yeah he didn't play that well but think there were other circumstances.
 
If you make a dog a breakfast and then put a rasher of prime cured bacon in the middle of it, it is still a breakfast for a dog. And the bacon gets lost in the madness that ensues.

Our teams were badly prepared and nobody looked good all season. Why single out players when the whole plot has been lost? People keep forgetting that what happens on the training ground shapes what happens in matches.
 
voyeur said:
If you make a dog a breakfast and then put a rasher of prime cured bacon in the middle of it, it is still a breakfast for a dog. And the bacon gets lost in the madness that ensues.

Our teams were badly prepared and nobody looked good all season. Why single out players when the whole plot has been lost? People keep forgetting that what happens on the training ground shapes what happens in matches.
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100% 👏🏻
 
Dougz said:
Let’s all turn on Kenny now we got rid of Maxi, is that the thought for some of our fans ? The guy has given us great service and admittedly hasn’t had a good season but he has been available unlike the two midfield sicknotes aka Stewart and Bridcutt. Kenny needed some support around him and it never materialised hence one of the reasons we are dropping.
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You are only as good as your last game used to be the saying, but in Maxwell's case, it's a whole season.
Let's hope we let him go and as for KD he has gone downhill badly from Covid and even more I would say after losing his place in the national team pre-World Cup.
 
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Until the last quarter of last season, when it went tits up.
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16th place finish... beat some top sides, lost a few so what. Kept us up easily with pretty much the same players. Dougal was a key player for us last year.
Phil_bfc deux said:
It wasn't though was it really?

Preston away was awful

And I could probably name you another half a dozen games when we didn't lay a glove
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Right... so 7 games under critch... how about the 20-30 games where we didn't lay a glove this year? My point still stands true. Crithley did better than both of the imbeciles that took charge before Dobbie. And Dougal was a key part of that team.
 
Mark_GT said:
Spot on. He'll go down in our history for scoring two not one at a 7/8ths empty Wembley, he's given honest performances throughout. Still people have to snipe. He may move on and may no longer be in the plans but is there any chance people can just show a bit of respect for a good honest pro who does his best? Please?
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What's disrespectful about saying he isn't good enough for where we aspire to be??

It's facts, people can be grateful for his contribution and still be honest about his lack of ability at championship level
 
SwannDangerous said:
16th place finish... beat some top sides, lost a few so what. Kept us up easily with pretty much the same players. Dougal was a key player for us last year.

Right... so 7 games under critch... how about the 20-30 games where we didn't lay a glove this year? My point still stands true. Crithley did better than both of the imbeciles that took charge before Dobbie. And Dougal was a key part of that team.
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I haven't said he didn't do better than this seasons managers have I?
 
Seasidedaz said:
Have you forgotten how crap we were last 5 or 6 games of last season - Peterborough away when we were royally wuped 5-0 !! Critchley had been found out for the bang average coach that he is
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Got beat 5-0 once... we just smashed brum 6-1 a few weeks before...?
 
SwannDangerous said:
16th place finish... beat some top sides, lost a few so what. Kept us up easily with pretty much the same players. Dougal was a key player for us last year.

Right... so 7 games under critch... how about the 20-30 games where we didn't lay a glove this year? My point still stands true. Crithley did better than both of the imbeciles that took charge before Dobbie. And Dougal was a key part of that team.
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I could probably do a better job than the aforementioned imbeciles. Dougall was a part of that team, I think it’s stretching things a little to call him a key part.
 
SwannDangerous said:
What's your point then?

Squad was poor?

There were 8 squads more poor than ours last year.

Dobbies got us playing and winning matches.

The two idiots before could not.

Critchley could.

Problems not the squad - it's the shite management.
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The thread is about Dougall and he's been poor this season

And to be honest he wasn't that great last season either

Critchley did ok, certainly better than this seasons managers

But the football wasn't great was it and we relied heavily on Bowler something that we haven't had for large parts this season

I have no idea what you are arguing about
 
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Marton Monorail said:
What's disrespectful about saying he isn't good enough for where we aspire to be??

It's facts, people can be grateful for his contribution and still be honest about his lack of ability at championship level
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I just noted a few people piling on that's all. No idea what you said MM. I like a lot of your psots and 100 percent promise you, I'm not looking to try to police this site - just imagine? 🤣
It's just that if you use the "would he be very welcome back at BR long after he retired?" test (my test for players who generally deserve our respect for being some part of our glorious history - think Mickey Walsh, goal of the season etc), Kenny would be right up there for me 👍
 
Dougall was fine when he had someone with experience to play alongside, Ward before his injury, Stewart and Wintle. But from the start of this
season, Appleton didn't rate him and wanted Bridcutt in. Well, that went well, and in January Trybull was signed and apparently, Dougall
was expecting to be moved on. When MM was hired he was retained till the end of the season. MM made the big mistake of making Connolly
captain ( probably because he is the player that is most like him) so when Lyons and Gabriel became available at right back, MM decided to move his captain to midfield, and once again Dougall was pushed to the subs bench. Dobbie decided to play without any experienced midfielder and play the kids, but every time we played a decent team with something to play for we lost.

When Dougall first played for Blackpool he replaced MJ Williams who at the moment is playing for Bolton. He transformed the
team and suddenly we started winning and by the end of the season, we were the best team in the league. In the following season
under Critch we did really well but were never going to be in the playoffs we just did not have the quality in the final third. As for the season-ending badly, the players were on the beach once they achieved their goal of retaining their league status, and without a holiday in two seasons
due to covid eased off. They didn't want to be injured on their holidays, and who could blame them?

Dougall is popular with the other players and has been a good honest pro when at Blackpool and has been injury free. He is also the first overseas Asian player that I can remember playing for Blackpool. I think he will do a really good job in league one, but my guess is that
he will be moved on to save money at the end of the season. But he has given us some great memories of the play-off semi-final and the final
at Wembley. Just a pity we hired the person that would have hated him the most from that day as our manager.
 
Seasidedaz said:
One good win granted against a extremely poor Birmingham side on the day does not cover a lot of rank bad performances
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True but the argument was a about 1 single game.

Therefore so was my counter-argument.

We had a great season under critch. Highlighted by our total capitulation after he left.
 
SwannDangerous said:
True but the argument was a about 1 single game.

Therefore so was my counter-argument.

We had a great season under critch. Highlighted by our total capitulation after he left.
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I don’t disagree, he got us promoted from lg1 after a slow start, from the October on we were arguably the best team in the league. Last season we did well, very well actually all things considered, until about March when our form just started to collapse (Preston away we were dreadful and we’re much better at Blackburn away) and that carried through to this season. Granted this season has been a shit show from the board in managerial appointments (and sackings) and recruitment but we were already on the slide. Also look at what happened to Critchley at QPR 1 win in 14 and they were shocking under him so much so it’s taken Ainsworth ages to sort them out.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
The thread is about Dougall and he's been poor this season

And to be honest he wasn't that great last season either

Critchley did ok, certainly better than this seasons managers

But the football wasn't great was it and we relied heavily on Bowler something that we haven't had for large parts this season

I have no idea what you are arguing about
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The squads not shit. The managers have been shit.

That's the comment i made that all these replies have stemmed from.
 
Dougz said:
Let’s all turn on Kenny now we got rid of Maxi, is that the thought for some of our fans ? The guy has given us great service and admittedly hasn’t had a good season but he has been available unlike the two midfield sicknotes aka Stewart and Bridcutt. Kenny needed some support around him and it never materialised hence one of the reasons we are dropping.
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Spot on!
 
Dougz said:
Let’s all turn on Kenny now we got rid of Maxi, is that the thought for some of our fans ? The guy has given us great service and admittedly hasn’t had a good season but he has been available unlike the two midfield sicknotes aka Stewart and Bridcutt. Kenny needed some support around him and it never materialised hence one of the reasons we are dropping.
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Exactly, too many of our fans are quite happy to ridicule our permanent players who put a shift in and pine over our loan players who won't be playing here next season who have been bang average.
 
I posted this on the transfer thread.

"Kenny Dougall is jetting off to Australia on Sunday.
That sounds to me like he's already said goodbye to BFC."
 
Seasidedaz said:
Regardless of whether he had support or not the fact is that Kenny D is not good enough for the Championship - his passing and crossing are woeful, he is lightweight in the tackle, always has a mistake in him in key areas of the pitch, he struggles to pass to his own teammates and cannot win a header. In Lg1 he is good as that is his natural level but we need to move on from King Kenny if we want out of lg1 and to establish ourselves as a Championship club.
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News is we are not in the championship anymore . We will not be buying any million pound players and Kenny is a good servant for Blackpool. We will not be buying better players . What we will be doing is hopefully getting the players we have and get ,to work better as a team and then we may be lucky enough to go back up again. Any fan who thinks we can suddenly buy a team to get us up by spending money needs to stop taking drugs and support the players we have got.
 
Some Blackpool fans need to realise that Blackpool will not be spending millions on gambling if we can get back up . What will be happening is we will be bringing in players that are willing to work for the team and fit into places that we are lacking . Kenny is one of them . Every player that has played for Blackpool except Yates and Grimmy seemed to have been slagged at some stage . Yet this is the standard of player we will have to make do with.

Kenny was good enough to get 2 goals that got us our promotion . So I am sure if he had been surrounded by players that could work with him ,he could do a job for us. Some players that were in the midfield with him were not working well with him and it wasn't all his fault. Povada and Bowler are dribblers and a bit lazy . Patino was too light weight with no pace. Carey ,I actually think he should go and these players were being chopped and changed along with others in nearly every game . So Kenny should not be used as a scapegoat for our team not being good enough.
 
I thought I might pop round to Kenny's place and explain that when you're taking corners or free kicks it pays to lift the ball over the first defender. Clearly it's not a matter addressed in training. Come to think of it, shooting at goal and tackling seem to be things that have escaped our midfielders this season.
 
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