King Kenny

His team after being a bit up and down have won 9 and drawn 1 since he joined them and could go 7 points clear at the top of the league later this afternoon. I bet he's not regretting going either when the likes of Olly Nogood got picked in front of him every week!
 
fcblackpool said:
Think we're missing Stan McEwan tbh
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there was a player with a shot on him.

when i as a kid about 8 or 9 years old i had i had a season ticket in the east stand when it had seats, mcewan cleared a ball from the penalty area from the kop end, it hit the old boy who sat a couple of seats away from me square in the face, took him right over his chair and out cold.
 
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Pauls_Boutique said:
Our midfield has been the problem all season.

Norburn, Carey, Morgan, Virtue, Wier, Byers are all one and the same. You can swap one for another with no noticeable effect on the team.

Kenny had a bit of energy about him, got forward and more importantly had a goal in him.
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Carey Morgan virtue Byers completely different types of players, none of them used particularly well by critchley. Norburn is a massive weak link, slow, no recovery, cant tackle, cant read the game, rarely makes interceptions, cant pass forward. Every single midfielder that plays alongside him has to compensate for his basic inadequacies, hence their performances are less than we would expect.
 
I liked and appreciated Kenny Dougall, but it was clear he wasn't playing to his capabilities or looking like he was enjoying his football here.
We will never know wether that had anything to do with Critchley.
Same could now be said about a number of our players.
 
midfield general said:
I liked and appreciated Kenny Dougall, but it was clear he wasn't playing to his capabilities or looking like he was enjoying his football here.
We will never know wether that had anything to do with Critchley.
Same could now be said about a number of our players.
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I think he leaves the very experienced players who have played at a high level alone (Rhodes/Keogh types) and is confident with the young players who have grown up in the game during the obsessive period of stats and game plans and shape graphs and iPads.

It’s the in the middle players that seem to go backwards under Critchley with the odd exception
 
Jerry went for the money and Dougall went for the location and, probably both had wearied of being at Blackpool in a non-winning side
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Our midfield has been the problem all season.

Norburn, Carey, Morgan, Virtue, Wier, Byers are all one and the same. You can swap one for another with no noticeable effect on the team.

Kenny had a bit of energy about him, got forward and more importantly had a goal in him.
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Let's not turn Kenny Dougall into some kind of Steve Gerrard.

Apart from his never-to-be-forgotten two goals in the Play-Off Final victory, he only scored 6 goals in the other 128 games that he played for us!

FFS, 20togo would've bagged a few more than that based on his remarkable goal-scoring record with Kingsfield back in the 70s and 80s, when men were men playing with a lot heavier balls...
 
Costero Poderoso said:
Carey Morgan virtue Byers completely different types of players, none of them used particularly well by critchley. Norburn is a massive weak link, slow, no recovery, cant tackle, cant read the game, rarely makes interceptions, cant pass forward. Every single midfielder that plays alongside him has to compensate for his basic inadequacies, hence their performances are less than we would expect.
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Defo agree with your comments on Norburn and how that affects the other midfielders.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Defo agree with your comments on Norburn and how that affects the other midfielders.
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I'm gobsmacked people haven't twigged how bad Nogood is. He's 33 next week so he isn't going to get fitter, faster or better. A massive let down. I challenge anybody who still sticks up for him if you happen to actually go to a game and watches him off the ball. Something you don't see on a TV screen. He jogs around avoiding the ball when he can. He is so slow (or lazy?) he just points to someone else when tha ball comes near him. He has no bottle either, he shirks challenges and the Wigan defeat when he should have blocked the cross for the goal he ducked out of the way!!! Imagine Keith Southern doing that?
 
Fylde Seasider said:
I'm gobsmacked people haven't twigged how bad Nogood is. He's 33 next week so he isn't going to get fitter, faster or better. A massive let down. I challenge anybody who still sticks up for him if you happen to actually go to a game and watches him off the ball. Something you don't see on a TV screen. He jogs around avoiding the ball when he can. He is so slow (or lazy?) he just points to someone else when tha ball comes near him. He has no bottle either, he shirks challenges and the Wigan defeat when he should have blocked the cross for the goal he ducked out of the way!!! Imagine Keith Southern doing that?
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From the North you can see how it appears like he his moving to receive the ball, whilst getting into a position next to or behind an opposition player so he can’t actually receive the ball.

Didn’t realise he was 33. I’d move him on but as he is under contract that would require a fee and I can’t see anyone doing that so likely we will have another season of him.
 
Born_in_the_Fifties said:
Let's not turn Kenny Dougall into some kind of Steve Gerrard.

Apart from his never-to-be-forgotten two goals in the Play-Off Final victory, he only scored 6 goals in the other 128 games that he played for us!

FFS, 20togo would've bagged a few more than that based on his remarkable goal-scoring record with Kingsfield back in the 70s and 80s, when men were men playing with a lot heavier balls...
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He wasn't a striker though was he?! How old are ya? 😉 Or even an attacking midfielder. He said out loud that Critch didnt let him get into advanced, shooting positions.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
I'm gobsmacked people haven't twigged how bad Nogood is. He's 33 next week so he isn't going to get fitter, faster or better. A massive let down. I challenge anybody who still sticks up for him if you happen to actually go to a game and watches him off the ball. Something you don't see on a TV screen. He jogs around avoiding the ball when he can. He is so slow (or lazy?) he just points to someone else when tha ball comes near him. He has no bottle either, he shirks challenges and the Wigan defeat when he should have blocked the cross for the goal he ducked out of the way!!! Imagine Keith Southern doing that?
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the ‘Spearing’ role
 
Fylde Seasider said:
I'm gobsmacked people haven't twigged how bad Nogood is. He's 33 next week so he isn't going to get fitter, faster or better. A massive let down. I challenge anybody who still sticks up for him if you happen to actually go to a game and watches him off the ball. Something you don't see on a TV screen. He jogs around avoiding the ball when he can. He is so slow (or lazy?) he just points to someone else when tha ball comes near him. He has no bottle either, he shirks challenges and the Wigan defeat when he should have blocked the cross for the goal he ducked out of the way!!! Imagine Keith Southern doing that?
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Critchley has put is faith in the wrong player. Making Norburn captain when he has worked with Husband, Dougall and Ekpiteta in his first spell was bound to create some friction in the squad.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
I'm gobsmacked people haven't twigged how bad Nogood is. He's 33 next week so he isn't going to get fitter, faster or better. A massive let down. I challenge anybody who still sticks up for him if you happen to actually go to a game and watches him off the ball. Something you don't see on a TV screen. He jogs around avoiding the ball when he can. He is so slow (or lazy?) he just points to someone else when tha ball comes near him. He has no bottle either, he shirks challenges and the Wigan defeat when he should have blocked the cross for the goal he ducked out of the way!!! Imagine Keith Southern doing that?
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32 in November according to his Wiki.
 
@Udo_onwere That's more than likely correct. My info came from Fotmob, though it has been known to be wrong on more than the odd occasion.

Which makes you wonder why isn't he in the form of his life? I reckon at 32 I was fitter and stronger than any other time in my life. 🤷
 

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Seainsea said:
Critchley has put is faith in the wrong player. Making Norburn captain when he has worked with Husband, Dougall and Ekpiteta in his first spell was bound to create some friction in the squad.
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I think as others have said he (Critchley) identified Norburn as the piece of the jigsaw he wanted to hold the midfield together. And in Norburn he saw an experienced player at L1 who was well regarded . . . blah de blah. I've never been one for getting on players backs, jumping on the Carey/Connolly/Ekpiteta are crap bandwagon. Of course like most I've had the odd moan or gripe but Norburn and his inclusion in the team drives me round the twist. The way he jogs around all important but not lowering himself to get stuck in or showing leadership or commitment but either going for the easy tap backward and when forced to go forward giving it away.

He's plain lazy and you can imagine he's not popular at all the way he shouts at others to do stuff that goes against their natural game. I'm 100% certain Kenny was pissed off being left out for him. I'm also thinking that the other senior players you've mentioned are too put out by his Billy big bollocks attitude, which is all well and good if you are all that. In the past we've brought in senior experienced leaders who have seemingly been humble, helpful and phenomenal for team building etc. Jordan Rhodes for one is of that ilk. Norburn just seems like a disruptive influence.
 
iamwinters said:
No there is none - Kenny was close to NC.
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That’s what I thought, also. Was very clear that Jerry and Critchley had good relations when he returned, before Jerry left of course.

I’m no fan of Critchley’s, but I absolutely hate the bullshit people make up to try and back up their point of view. They can produce an argument without lying.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
I think as others have said he (Critchley) identified Norburn as the piece of the jigsaw he wanted to hold the midfield together. And in Norburn he saw an experienced player at L1 who was well regarded . . . blah de blah. I've never been one for getting on players backs, jumping on the Carey/Connolly/Ekpiteta are crap bandwagon. Of course like most I've had the odd moan or gripe but Norburn and his inclusion in the team drives me round the twist. The way he jogs around all important but not lowering himself to get stuck in or showing leadership or commitment but either going for the easy tap backward and when forced to go forward giving it away.

He's plain lazy and you can imagine he's not popular at all the way he shouts at others to do stuff that goes against their natural game. I'm 100% certain Kenny was pissed off being left out for him. I'm also thinking that the other senior players you've mentioned are too put out by his Billy big bollocks attitude, which is all well and good if you are all that. In the past we've brought in senior experienced leaders who have seemingly been humble, helpful and phenomenal for team building etc. Jordan Rhodes for one is of that ilk. Norburn just seems like a disruptive influence.
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When we played Peterborough
At home you could see why they let him go their midfield moved the ball alot quicker
 
Bearing in mind how influential he was and the two goals at Wembley, it was a proper wet fart departure.
Such a shame bearing in mind they could see that coming that we couldn't have given him a better send off.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
@Udo_onwere That's more than likely correct. My info came from Fotmob, though it has been known to be wrong on more than the odd occasion.

Which makes you wonder why isn't he in the form of his life? I reckon at 32 I was fitter and stronger than any other time in my life. 🤷
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He was out for the better part of a year with a knee injury, and only came back at the end of February.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
From the North you can see how it appears like he his moving to receive the ball, whilst getting into a position next to or behind an opposition player so he can’t actually receive the ball.

Didn’t realise he was 33. I’d move him on but as he is under contract that would require a fee and I can’t see anyone doing that so likely we will have another season of him.
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i think if citchley stays, what talent we might have will leave and 6 or 7 norburnesque players will be bought in to fulfill the critchley mantra of solidity (and slightlylower than you would expect) possession.
 
Lost Seasider said:
He was out for the better part of a year with a knee injury, and only came back at the end of February.
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Ah right the Blackpool medical team strikes again. Sign a crock who will never again get back to his decent L1 standard and let Colby Bishop go because he had a twisted sock. 🤷 Then go on to sign Joseph who was injured, the lad from Southampton who is still injured and the lad from Burnley who is still injured.

Hopefully the 2 out injured will regain full fitness and maybe Joseph and Norburn might benefit from playing to their strengths. Though with Norburn I genuinely believe he's lost his bottle (if he ever had any). There's no fire, no desire to tackle, no energy and the Wigan winner he ducked out of the way of the cross. Embarrassing choice as captain.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
I'm gobsmacked people haven't twigged how bad Nogood is. He's 33 next week so he isn't going to get fitter, faster or better. A massive let down. I challenge anybody who still sticks up for him if you happen to actually go to a game and watches him off the ball. Something you don't see on a TV screen. He jogs around avoiding the ball when he can. He is so slow (or lazy?) he just points to someone else when tha ball comes near him. He has no bottle either, he shirks challenges and the Wigan defeat when he should have blocked the cross for the goal he ducked out of the way!!! Imagine Keith Southern doing that?
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The other thing that really bugs me about him is his standing over the ball at potentially dangerous freekicks (for us), and getting close to the taker at corners, obviously trying to impart his "captain's experience".
 
voyeur said:
He wasn't a striker though was he?! How old are ya? 😉 Or even an attacking midfielder. He said out loud that Critch didnt let him get into advanced, shooting positions.
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Behave Voyeur, you facetious old fart😜the subject was midfielders not strikers!

'Stevie G' definitely had a goal in him eg., 120 goals in 504 games for The Reds, that's about 1 every 4 games.

Whereas King Kenny scored 8 in 129 games for our beloved Tangerines, that's about 1 every 16 games.

Obviously referring to th'old scrote Twenties (who was a great striker in Sunday League football back in the day and he'll back me up on that🙂), threw you off your guard somewhat!!

👅🧡
 
Costero Poderoso said:
The other thing that really bugs me about him is his standing over the ball at potentially dangerous freekicks (for us), and getting close to the taker at corners, obviously trying to impart his "captain's experience".
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Couldn't agree more. His outstretched arms protest to the referee when he kicks someone in the chest or pulls his opponent's shorts off as they jog past him comes a close second 👍
 
Born_in_the_Fifties said:
Behave Voyeur, you facetious old fart😜the subject was midfielders not strikers!

'Stevie G' definitely had a goal in him eg., 120 goals in 504 games for The Reds, that's about 1 every 4 games.

Whereas King Kenny scored 8 in 129 games for our beloved Tangerines, that's about 1 every 16 games.

Obviously referring to th'old scrote Twenties (who was a great striker in Sunday League football back in the day and he'll back me up on that🙂), threw you off your guard somewhat!!

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Yeah but Stevie G was never instructed not to shoot by Critch, or by anybody else for that matter. And he wasn't a holding player. And some of the best midfielders don't score much. If you hold a side together, scoring isn't so important....

Modric - 28 in 353 games for RM
Iniesta - 35 in 442 for Barca
 
There’s obviously a player in Norburn - he has shown occasional glimpses of being a very good CM and being able to do the role we need him to fulfil…

But it’s only been very occasional glimpses and tbh, I’d be quite happy to never see him pull on a Tangerine shirt ever again.

I feel the same about Carey.

Dougall probably had a lower potential than either Norburn or Carey but he actually played to his full ability far more regularly and when he wasn’t he still gave so much more than either of them too offer.

Dembele aside who can you really say has impressed in midfield this season?

Probably only Morgan on a handful of appearances, (at a push) Rhodes as and when he drops very very deep.

We need an actual leader in the middle of the park. We need tirelessness and we desperately need some physical presence. And for next season we need creativity - which hopefully Apter may be able to offer if he can make the next step up.
 
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