League 1 isn’t that bad to be honest

Phil_bfc deux

Phil_bfc deux

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Now I've had time to reflect I don't think next season will be that bad

From a personal point of view I've got a couple of closer away games like Shrewsbury and Port Vale and I'm quite looking forward to giving the Cods a good twatting again

It won't be easy as three of Wednesday, Bolton, Barnsley and Derby will still be around and clubs like Portsmouth and Charlton won't be as bad this season

It's gonna be tough but at least we should have a reasonable budget to compete at this level if Sadler realises this seasons errors and actually puts his hand in his pocket to sign some football players

We need to appoint a new manager ASAP and we need to have a clear strategy and structure at the club instead of just trying to blag it like we have done this season

I would like a young progressive type of manager in who wants to play football the right way and I would like us to get back to the model of signing young hungry players like we did 18 months ago

I would like the club to go all out on getting Wellens in, approach him and sell him the club, the vision and the passion, we have an advantage in that his son is a Blackpool fan

All isn't lost and its not all doom and gloom

But Sadler needs to get back to what got us promoted in the first place and that's decent footballers

We have a unique and passionate fanbase and we really don't need a BST letter telling fans to support the club, how patronising was that?

Our fans are a big part of this club, its great how engaged we are and thats born out of the fight with the Oystons, we should be proud of that not slagging fellow fans for calling a spade a spade

This season has been a fuck up and it's quite right that the board are brought to task on it

I'm sure with some decent ticket prices we can make Bloomfield Road a fortress again next season

All down to you Simon Sadler 🙌
 
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Mentioned it in another thread but I think despite the relegation and complete shitshow of a season, there's still plenty of goodwill towards the club. The atmosphere at full time on Friday really wasn't the toxic one that might be expected of a club that's just had the season we've had, and I think that bodes well if we can get back on track with a coherent medium to long term strategy football-wise.
 
We are going to find out more about Simon Sadler and his intentions more than ever before in the next few months. I think we will know, one way or another, if it's his words we should be listening to (I'm in it for the long haul), or whether those murmerings from many fans who say he is looking to sell ring true.

It's going to be interesting.

Personally, I hope he shows he means what he has said and does his utmost to get us back up to the championship and to keep us there.

Also, in my opinion Ben has to go!
 
Start the building as of today for next season.
Mr Sadler now knows which division we are in, so get the preparations underway and get EVERYTHING in place pronto.

Starting with the likes of Dobbie , Thorniley, Yates , Lavery. etc….
 
I’d like to have some apology/explanation about what the hell has gone wrong with my season ticket invite.Absolutely gutted to be going back to L1 .We’ve had a chance to establish in the Championship and we’ve thrown it all away.How how have we got so much wrong with BM paid so much to see these thing don’t ? I’m lost for words
 
We were poor from start to finish this season because the players weren't good enough. Even taking injuries and suspensions into account most of the teams we played just bullied us all over the park time and time again.
We need some steel in the centre of our defence and certainly in midfield and a proper leader as captain barking orders out.
Millwall were never going to lose on Friday night they were a ugly hard team set up to win at all costs and it showed.
 
Born tangerine said:
We were poor from start to finish this season because the players weren't good enough. Even taking injuries and suspensions into account most of the teams we played just bullied us all over the park time and time again.
We need some steel in the centre of our defence and certainly in midfield and a proper leader as captain barking orders out.
Millwall were never going to lose on Friday night they were a ugly hard team set up to win at all costs and it showed.
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I would try and keep Thorniley and Nelson to be honest

Trybull needs to kept fit along with another central midfield anchor man

Carey and Lyons will improve

Keep Yates and the spine isn't that bad

Still need some stardust though as we will be losing all the creative loan players
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Now I've had time to reflect I don't think next season will be that bad

From a personal point of view I've got a couple of closer away games like Shrewsbury and Port Vale and I'm quite looking forward to giving the Cods a good twatting again

It won't be easy as three of Wednesday, Bolton, Barnsley and Derby will still be around and clubs like Portsmouth and Charlton won't be as bad this season

It's gonna be tough but at least we should have a reasonable budget to compete at this level if Sadler realises this seasons errors and actually puts his hand in his pocket to sign some football players

We need to appoint a new manager ASAP and we need to have a clear strategy and structure at the club instead of just trying to blag it like we have done this season

I would like a young progressive type of manager in who wants to play football the right way and I would like us to get back to the model of signing young hungry players like we did 18 months ago

I would like the club to go all out on getting Wellens in, approach him and sell him the club, the vision and the passion, we have an advantage in that his son is a Blackpool fan

All isn't lost and its not all doom and gloom

But Sadler needs to get back to what got us promoted in the first place and that's decent footballers

We have a unique and passionate fanbase and we really don't need a BST letter telling fans to support the club, how patronising was that?

Our fans are a big part of this club, its great how engaged we are and thats born out of the fight with the Oystons, we should be proud of that not slagging fellow fans for calling a spade a spade

This season has been a fuck up and it's quite right that the board are brought to task on it

I'm sure with some decent ticket prices we can make Bloomfield Road a fortress again next season

All down to you Simon Sadler 🙌
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your best post for ages , agree with everything in it.
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
And some players with a bit of beef on them .
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Depends on what style and system the new manager wants

Not much point signing a load of giants it we are going to keep the ball on the floor

Equally no point signing small skillfull players if we are going to go for a long ball merchant

Hence why the club needs to decide on a structure and actually have a plan for how we play and recruit accordingly
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
Depends on what style and system the new manager wants

Not much point signing a load of giants it we are going to keep the ball on the floor

Equally no point signing small skillfull players if we are going to go for a long ball merchant

Hence why the club needs to decide on a structure and actually have a plan for how we play
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Didnt mean fill the team , Just that this season we seem to ave been easily bullied off the ball . Need to rectify that no matter what style
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
Didnt mean fill the team , Just that this season we seem to ave been easily bullied off the ball . Need to rectify that no matter what style
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I'm not sure we have to be honest, the problem has more been we haven't had a proper style of play and the players we have haven't been played correctly

Prime example being the McCarthy hoof ball when we had several ball players sat on the bench
 
Good o/p and responses. I'm disappointed but not so downbeat.
That said, I'm not 100% expecting an immediate return to the Championship.
It's a horrible league to get out of, even a wealthier club like Sunderland took 5 (6?)seasons, and there's some big clubs stuck in L1 as o/p has noted.

Wellens is a good shout, but anyone who wants to play the ball on the floor would do for me. I've been watching us lose midfield "head tennis"all season. Agreed we need to get someone in quickly and get our preparation right so we're not starting a season cold then playing catch up

As for ticket prices, we need to lower the prices to keep /attract fans. An under 18 offer would be good.
With revenues massively reduced, any business would need to cut overhead, I'm pretty sure I know where I could save circa £300k.
 
Dave62 said:
Good o/p and responses. I'm disappointed but not so downbeat.
That said, I'm not 100% expecting an immediate return to the Championship.
It's a horrible league to get out of, even a wealthier club like Sunderland took 5 (6?)seasons, and there's some big clubs stuck in L1 as o/p has noted.

Wellens is a good shout, but anyone who wants to play the ball on the floor would do for me. I've been watching us lose midfield "head tennis"all season. Agreed we need to get someone in quickly and get our preparation right so we're not starting a season cold then playing catch up

As for ticket prices, we need to lower the prices to keep /attract fans. An under 18 offer would be good.
With revenues massively reduced, any business would need to cut overhead, I'm pretty sure I know where I could save circa £300k.
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Yep good post

We need a plan and we need to stick to it
 
All we can hope for next season is to be up there challenging with the top 10 or so. There are teams there that will have far bigger attendances and revenues than us so it will be a difficult slog to get out again. Like others I want to see attractive football rather than the functional, that might work when deployed against poorer players but not at a higher level, so why bother with it. The right coach is key to that.

I'll take issue with some posters however who want us to lower prices yet expect quality recruitment. You get one or the other, unless you expect another person to spend an awful lot of their money purely for your entertainment. Take your pick of the two, pay less to watch less skillful recruits or accept that you need to pay more for higher quality.
 
Meliora said:
All we can hope for next season is to be up there challenging with the top 10 or so. There are teams there that will have far bigger attendances and revenues than us so it will be a difficult slog to get out again. Like others I want to see attractive football rather than the functional, that might work when deployed against poorer players but not at a higher level, so why bother with it. The right coach is key to that.

I'll take issue with some posters however who want us to lower prices yet expect quality recruitment. You get one or the other, unless you expect another person to spend an awful lot of their money purely for your entertainment. Take your pick of the two, pay less to watch less skillful recruits or accept that you need to pay more for higher quality.
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Nonsense

We have a multi millionaire owner who needs to put his money where is mouth is

We need fans through the door and we won't be getting many at £30 a pop

If Sadler isn't prepared to put money into the club to fund it then maybe he should try and get someone in who can

He knew when he bought the club that it would cost him, if he didn't know that then I question either his sanity or his motives
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Now I've had time to reflect I don't think next season will be that bad

From a personal point of view I've got a couple of closer away games like Shrewsbury and Port Vale and I'm quite looking forward to giving the Cods a good twatting again

It won't be easy as three of Wednesday, Bolton, Barnsley and Derby will still be around and clubs like Portsmouth and Charlton won't be as bad this season

It's gonna be tough but at least we should have a reasonable budget to compete at this level if Sadler realises this seasons errors and actually puts his hand in his pocket to sign some football players

We need to appoint a new manager ASAP and we need to have a clear strategy and structure at the club instead of just trying to blag it like we have done this season

I would like a young progressive type of manager in who wants to play football the right way and I would like us to get back to the model of signing young hungry players like we did 18 months ago

I would like the club to go all out on getting Wellens in, approach him and sell him the club, the vision and the passion, we have an advantage in that his son is a Blackpool fan

All isn't lost and its not all doom and gloom

But Sadler needs to get back to what got us promoted in the first place and that's decent footballers

We have a unique and passionate fanbase and we really don't need a BST letter telling fans to support the club, how patronising was that?

Our fans are a big part of this club, its great how engaged we are and thats born out of the fight with the Oystons, we should be proud of that not slagging fellow fans for calling a spade a spade

This season has been a fuck up and it's quite right that the board are brought to task on it

I'm sure with some decent ticket prices we can make Bloomfield Road a fortress again next season

All down to you Simon Sadler 🙌
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Agree with all of that.

We’re naturally in the top 6 or 7 clubs in League One next season so even if we’re just competently run next year we’re in with a decent shot at promotion. We’re not a total disaster area unlike the last time we dropped out of this League.
I think Sadler and the management will reset properly this summer.
 
All Halesowen Oyston said:
Agree with all of that.

We’re naturally in the top 6 or 7 clubs in League One next season so even if we’re just competently run next year we’re in with a decent shot at promotion. We’re not a total disaster area unlike the last time we dropped out of this League.
I think Sadler and the management will reset properly this summer.
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I was talking to an Everton fan last night who thinks Blackpool should be a consistent Championship club given our history and town size

I agree we should be

It's a shame some people at our club don't have the same thoughts
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Now I've had time to reflect I don't think next season will be that bad

From a personal point of view I've got a couple of closer away games like Shrewsbury and Port Vale and I'm quite looking forward to giving the Cods a good twatting again

It won't be easy as three of Wednesday, Bolton, Barnsley and Derby will still be around and clubs like Portsmouth and Charlton won't be as bad this season

It's gonna be tough but at least we should have a reasonable budget to compete at this level if Sadler realises this seasons errors and actually puts his hand in his pocket to sign some football players

We need to appoint a new manager ASAP and we need to have a clear strategy and structure at the club instead of just trying to blag it like we have done this season

I would like a young progressive type of manager in who wants to play football the right way and I would like us to get back to the model of signing young hungry players like we did 18 months ago

I would like the club to go all out on getting Wellens in, approach him and sell him the club, the vision and the passion, we have an advantage in that his son is a Blackpool fan

All isn't lost and its not all doom and gloom

But Sadler needs to get back to what got us promoted in the first place and that's decent footballers

We have a unique and passionate fanbase and we really don't need a BST letter telling fans to support the club, how patronising was that?

Our fans are a big part of this club, its great how engaged we are and thats born out of the fight with the Oystons, we should be proud of that not slagging fellow fans for calling a spade a spade

This season has been a fuck up and it's quite right that the board are brought to task on it

I'm sure with some decent ticket prices we can make Bloomfield Road a fortress again next season

All down to you Simon Sadler 🙌
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Good post.

Not sure I agree with Wellens though, although I can't offer many alternatives.

My tuppence would be for Dobbie to be given it the squad has showed some real fight and desire to attack and win games since he has taken charge. We have done so much better throughout games than the 15 minute spells of good play per game we were getting under the previous 2 numpty regimes.

I'm no expert though, just my gut feeling is with Dobbie.

Looking again actually, Wellens has done a really good job at Orient. He might be the answer, but would be want to leave after such a good season getting them promoted? I guess Critch shows us that there truly isn't any loyalty in football. We'll just have to make him a monetary offer he can't refuse.
 
SwannDangerous said:
Good post.

Not sure I agree with Wellens though, although I can't offer many alternatives.

My tuppence would be for Dobbie to be given it the squad has showed some real fight and desire to attack and win games since he has taken charge. We have done so much better throughout games than the 15 minute spells of good play per game we were getting under the previous 2 numpty regimes.

I'm no expert though, just my gut feeling is with Dobbie.

Looking again actually, Wellens has done a really good job at Orient. He might be the answer, but would be want to leave after such a good season getting them promoted? I guess Critch shows us that there truly isn't any loyalty in football. We'll just have to make him a monetary offer he can't refuse.
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I think the fact that Wellens played for us, speaks well of our club and has a son who is a Blackpool fan shows he does have feelings for us

We should go all out to get him imo

Its all about the ambition of the owner I guess
 
Born tangerine said:
One of our priorities for next season must be to keep our fanbase together, they are the future of our club. Prices have to reflect the difficult times we are all facing and to make all our home games a fortress. A rocking Broomfield road puts shivers down your spine.
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Yep it's key

Decent price point, get the ground rocking with a decent manager and some new players

All about ambition
 
I'm not against Wellens but I really don't see why he would want to join us. It's like the unrealistic clamour to get Matt Williams back.
(For the record Matt wasn't particularly well liked by the staff last time round).
I do know the Board are well on top of the recruitment process but I've no idea who's in the frame.
Dobbie still edges it for me for the simple reason he's effectively up and running already with a good knowledge of the players we have, I'm sure he knows where the gaps are, he lives locally and he understands the Club and what we've been through and he meets your other criteria of being young and progressive.
I fully accept that he doesn't have Wellens experience though.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Good shouts them but I really hope we keep Yates as well
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Keeping Yates is key. I think it would be short termism in the extreme to sell him. Any replacement isn’t guaranteed to get the goals that Jerry will.
Ask him to give us one year in League one, he doesn’t seem the sort to sulk for not getting his own way (if he is actually thinking about a move), I’m sure he’ll be revved up for the challenge come pre season
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Now I've had time to reflect I don't think next season will be that bad

From a personal point of view I've got a couple of closer away games like Shrewsbury and Port Vale and I'm quite looking forward to giving the Cods a good twatting again

It won't be easy as three of Wednesday, Bolton, Barnsley and Derby will still be around and clubs like Portsmouth and Charlton won't be as bad this season

It's gonna be tough but at least we should have a reasonable budget to compete at this level if Sadler realises this seasons errors and actually puts his hand in his pocket to sign some football players

We need to appoint a new manager ASAP and we need to have a clear strategy and structure at the club instead of just trying to blag it like we have done this season

I would like a young progressive type of manager in who wants to play football the right way and I would like us to get back to the model of signing young hungry players like we did 18 months ago

I would like the club to go all out on getting Wellens in, approach him and sell him the club, the vision and the passion, we have an advantage in that his son is a Blackpool fan

All isn't lost and its not all doom and gloom

But Sadler needs to get back to what got us promoted in the first place and that's decent footballers

We have a unique and passionate fanbase and we really don't need a BST letter telling fans to support the club, how patronising was that?

Our fans are a big part of this club, its great how engaged we are and thats born out of the fight with the Oystons, we should be proud of that not slagging fellow fans for calling a spade a spade

This season has been a fuck up and it's quite right that the board are brought to task on it

I'm sure with some decent ticket prices we can make Bloomfield Road a fortress again next season

All down to you Simon Sadler 🙌
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Yeah.

I hear National League North's pretty good too.

Chester, Darlington, Scarborough, Southport, Boston, Hereford - oh and the local derbies with Chorley and AFC Fylde.

For Christ's sake. Stop trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
 
Ollygon said:
Yeah.

I hear National League North's pretty good too.

Chester, Darlington, Scarborough, Southport, Boston, Hereford - oh and the local derbies with Chorley and AFC Fylde.

For Christ's sake. Stop trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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The point I'm trying to make is that all isn't lost if the owner shows some ambition
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I was talking to an Everton fan last night who thinks Blackpool should be a consistent Championship club given our history and town size

I agree we should be

It's a shame some people at our club don't have the same thoughts
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We can easily be a Championship club as a minimum, but we need a big enough ground to support that (over 20k capacity) and the fan base to fill it. But that is a long term project and we won't have it in the next 4/5 years so we need short term tactics for coaching and players to underpin the overall strategy.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I was talking to an Everton fan last night who thinks Blackpool should be a consistent Championship club given our history and town size

I agree we should be

It's a shame some people at our club don't have the same thoughts
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Everton fans should concerned about their own club becoming a consistent championship club 😉
The problem with the ‘history’ is that much of our history (ie the real glory days) were in the era of the maximum wage, we could compete with the biggest clubs in the country for a long time.
I do agree that if good decisions are made we can become established in the championship, but it’ll be a while before that’s the case. And caveated by noting we’ll only ever be one bad season from a relegation battle (as this year has proven), but by the same token we could be one exceptional season from a push for the top 6.
 
Qblock said:
Everton fans should concerned about their own club becoming a consistent championship club 😉
The problem with the ‘history’ is that much of our history (ie the real glory days) were in the era of the maximum wage, we could compete with the biggest clubs in the country for a long time.
I do agree that if good decisions are made we can become established in the championship, but it’ll be a while before that’s the case. And caveated by noting we’ll only ever be one bad season from a relegation battle (as this year has proven), but by the same token we could be one exceptional season from a push for the top 6.
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Yep we absolutely need to be at our best with everything working together

This season was a fuck up from start to finish
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Depends on what style and system the new manager wants

Not much point signing a load of giants it we are going to keep the ball on the floor

Equally no point signing small skillfull players if we are going to go for a long ball merchant

Hence why the club needs to decide on a structure and actually have a plan for how we play and recruit accordingly
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Agree in part but it was so frustrating seeing our defence unable to compete with the ariel threat of just about every team we played against.
I hate the hoofball which bypasses midfield, but we really do need bigger more imposing defenders and keeper IMHO
 
tangysider said:
Agree in part but it was so frustrating seeing our defence unable to compete with the ariel threat of just about every team we played against.
I hate the hoofball which bypasses midfield, but we really do need bigger more imposing defenders and keeper IMHO
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If Marvin hadn't of missed most of the season then I don't necessarily think that would have been such an issue
 
Unfortunately we just don’t have the margin for error that clubs with bigger budgets have in the Championship. That’s not being negative, it’s a harsh economic reality.
At the moment League one should be a more level playing field, and we should be able to flex our muscles in the market a bit more, as was the case before and during the last promotion season
 
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