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Lincoln City v Blackpool Official Matchday Thread 26.08.23
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TangerineAde
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Yep, Wouldn’t be surprised if he was on the first bus back to Huddersfield.
Hes been working with the strikers he tried to thump his chest and missed
Costero Poderoso
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that was as bad as anything under appleton, and the same problems, Critchley has decided to play in a very specific way and is putting players into positions where they are not going to perform. CJ and Connolly as wrong sided wing sided wing backs, but in fairness they were both in positions where they could have or should have scored.
We have five minutes of attacking intent and then it all goes slow and predictable.
the disorganisation is palpable, Norburn and Morgan were effectively playing as centre halves, casey and husband were out on the wings, no movement in the centre of the park, long balls to a striker giving away 6 inches to his markers.
Whatever critchley is doing is undermining the confidence of players, marv looks nervous , and he started out this season looking like his old self, Lyons looks a shadow of the player he can be. Shayne and beesley aren't getting any service at all, not enoug players getting into the box, and second half we were getting in each others way.
I think critchleys over complicating things, there is nothing wrong with the formation, but at least select players who can play the various positions.
I have to say I'm not overly convinced by Norburn in the last three games, he doesn't like being put under pressure and the team seemingly is built around whatever it is that he does. it might be a good thing that he got sent off today and misses a couple of games.
We have five minutes of attacking intent and then it all goes slow and predictable.
the disorganisation is palpable, Norburn and Morgan were effectively playing as centre halves, casey and husband were out on the wings, no movement in the centre of the park, long balls to a striker giving away 6 inches to his markers.
Whatever critchley is doing is undermining the confidence of players, marv looks nervous , and he started out this season looking like his old self, Lyons looks a shadow of the player he can be. Shayne and beesley aren't getting any service at all, not enoug players getting into the box, and second half we were getting in each others way.
I think critchleys over complicating things, there is nothing wrong with the formation, but at least select players who can play the various positions.
I have to say I'm not overly convinced by Norburn in the last three games, he doesn't like being put under pressure and the team seemingly is built around whatever it is that he does. it might be a good thing that he got sent off today and misses a couple of games.
Anderson, BTW, described as 'outstanding' at Birmingham this afternoon.
Sven
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Today was horrendous and it’s now looking like a really poor start. I do believe we have enough to turn it around and it’s not going to help if we get on their backs after a few games. We could help to create a toxic atmosphere and I don’t think that would help us whilst we try to turn things around. I think we should be challenging for automatic promotion this season, playoffs minimum and right not it’s not good enough but it’s still early days.
That being said, if I travelled today I’d be fuming. We made it so easy for them and we look like a soft touch. There’s a lot of hard work ahead. Today is was on Critchley, he got it badly wrong and hopefully he’ll rectify it in the coming games.
I just thought it would be funny to be called a ** cockwomble in person
hertfordseasider
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It's an affectionate term!Today was horrendous and it’s now looking like a really poor start. I do believe we have enough to turn it around and it’s not going to help if we get on their backs after a few games. We could help to create a toxic atmosphere and I don’t think that would help us whilst we try to turn things around. I think we should be challenging for automatic promotion this season, playoffs minimum and right not it’s not good enough but it’s still early days.
That being said, if I travelled today I’d be fuming. We made it so easy for them and we look like a soft touch. There’s a lot of hard work ahead. Today is was on Critchley, he got it badly wrong and hopefully he’ll rectify it in the coming games.
I just thought it would be funny to be called a ** cockwomble in person
rememberlesshannon
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You can have all the head of scouting, sporting directors you want, but quality costs money. If that's our team for the season, it's going to be a long one.
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn
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my comfort zone as you put it for BFC is Championship , Hate L1 & L2 because ultimately the quality of football WIL be below average if you use Prem-L2 (old Divs 1,2,3&4) as the marker
Macseasider
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This is it.
We'd be better with a simple 442 and the manager telling them to go out, enjoy yourselves and express yourselves.
Because they look anything but enjoying the complicated bollocks Critchley is trying.
I don't see him improving this either unless he has an experienced number 2 with him. It's a bloody mess.
hertfordseasider
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You mean exactly like Dobbie was telling them?
29Days Late
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Yes, but I bet critch enjoys drawing triangles on the whiteboard.
It probably looks good on there.
And, if that doesn't tell you something about the current state of BFC, I honestly don't know what does ...
Greennutmegsmoore
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Horrendous is ott. Sorry I have seen much worse Blackpool performances. Nit saying great but on another day and without Eki we might have won with ease. We will do better than Lincoln thisseasonToday was horrendous and it’s now looking like a really poor start. I do believe we have enough to turn it around and it’s not going to help if we get on their backs after a few games. We could help to create a toxic atmosphere and I don’t think that would help us whilst we try to turn things around. I think we should be challenging for automatic promotion this season, playoffs minimum and right not it’s not good enough but it’s still early days.
That being said, if I travelled today I’d be fuming. We made it so easy for them and we look like a soft touch. There’s a lot of hard work ahead. Today is was on Critchley, he got it badly wrong and hopefully he’ll rectify it in the coming games.
I just thought it would be funny to be called a ** cockwomble in person
I think that's what is known as 'the understatement of the year'...
Truly awful. Clueless in tactics and lacking creativity and skills to break the opposition down and couldn't hit a barn door with a blunderbus when we did get a chance. Lincoln were not a particularly good side but must have been amazed at winning so easily and without significantly breaking sweat.
Even worse with the loss of Lavery and Norburn for the next few matches.
Even worse with the loss of Lavery and Norburn for the next few matches.
Matesrates
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Honeymoon period is well and truly over, either change, or go Neil.
JJpool
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We looked alright on the ball at times, especially 2nd half and 1st half should have been ahead, but individual mistakes cost us this game.
They created almost nothing we didn't give them. Although credit to them for being solid, but any side at this level can be.
Much to improve to be sure.
tommytwojags
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Let's face it. Our players are very, very limited in ability. We have a centre half who has been of more benefit to the opposition so far this season and forwards who wouldn't know the back of the net if they went fishing. What Critchley's formations do is highlight the players' shortcomings. So he's not 100% to blame. The manager and the players are equally poor.
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I dont agree with Norburn getting the blame. For the first goal Marv made a stupid tackle when he didnt need to.Their player was quite wide and not in a particularly dangerous position. For the second I thought Marv should have closed him down earlier. Norwood was getting through a tremendous amount of work trying to make things happen, mostly on his own.
I don't know which calender you're using, but I would suggest we first became bottom-fodder about 3 wks ago.
Blimey, I might be wrong, but is not being able to 'hit a Royal Caribbean cruise liner in dock' even worse than not being able to 'hit a cow's arse with a banjo ...'? Because, if it is, I think I can honestly say: now I'm worried ...
boabthebetter
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Thought 2 yellows resulting in red was one game ban.
Sven
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Fair enough maybe it was a bit strong, we could have scored a couple in the first half. I think this one was annoying because we’ve lost 3-0 with out captain getting sent off and it just felt very avoidable.
'I don't get the negativity towards CJ.'
I've only got three hours' spare before I'm due to go out. I hope you're not mistakenly thinking that should give me ample time to cover everything we need to discuss ...
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No excuses today > last week after the third bore draw Critchley said that some of players looked tired ( despite it only being 3 weeks into the season and the same for everyone else. He then bemoaned the lack of training time with the players citing Saturday Tuesday Saturday and how he was looking forward to getting a full week with them on the training ground. Well he did...
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This has to be a wind up surely. Negativity? he tackles himself, has no first second or even third touch, refuses to win a header, and makes repeated poor passes. Give your head a wobble .
Fatboy
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It was a straight red
Was a straight red like I said three game ban but will only miss the Wigan game as we have two cup games sandwiches either side of the Wigan game
Yarmouth Seasider
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He was never going to get any sort of honeymoon period, but he has gone straight back to over complicating things and playing players out of position.
There are plenty that wanted him to fail and he's just falling straight into the hole that they wanted by not doing the simple things right.
hertfordseasider
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He's trying to make us play like Man City but we are Blackpool a league 1 side with players who can't play that way, he lives in cloud cuckoo land. It's all too serious, too computer driven, where's the heart and soul and the joy gone? There isn't any in his style of play, it's robotic and boring.
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clappers
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I’ve come to the conclusion he’s a league two player steadily helping us descend to his level.
I've alot of time for u H, but I can't help thinking to myself you're adopting a rather simplistic approach to the predicament we face. It's not 'a massive kick up the arse' (for all the difference that would make ...) that's needed, but a complete overhaul at the club on every level. Basically, we need to be looking for the root cause of the host of problems - and yes, there are many - we currently face, as opposed to dealing, collectively, with the various symptoms which are now beginning surface at a most alarming rate.
I suppose the difficulty you're then faced with is selecting an appropriate candidate from the wider footballing ether to oversee such a project, but given BFC's past record for making such appointments, hopefully, with a bit of studious research, this time, there is absolutely no reason why we can't be successful in our quest. And, this time, we really can't afford for it not to be ...
It's when they start singing (i.e. if you throw training sessions in as well), 'Can we play you every day?', that I'll start worrying ...
At one time a red card, which wasn't given for serious foul play, such as preventing a goal scoring opportunity, only resulted in a one game ban. I don't know whether this still applies.
SeasideKurt
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It isn’t even that complicated Mac. Pass pass pass. Shit diagonal ball from Husband or Marv. They win the ball. Rinse and repeat.
You make him sound like a wild animal with no notion of what the term 'football' actually means.
Then again, putting it like that ...
tangerine.com
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Exactly. CJ is not the only one to blame.
boabthebetter
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3 game ban? That's for violent conduct surely? I reckon it's still only a one game ban even for a straight red as no dissent or violent conduct.
I think we all knew that defeat was coming today maybe not as bad but it was coming we’ve been dreadful since the second half against Burton. When we play a decent side we are going to get a good thumping possibly the Wigan game and it won’t be a bad thing the more games we lose the better till rat boy gets potted. That was terrible today boring beyond belief we are the most boring side in the division we will be nearer to the bottom than the top with critchley we could be near the top with this squad.
PdxTangerine
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What a nightmare the last year or so has been.
Amazing to think that it looked like a distinct possibility not much more than a year ago that we could push on and start threatening the top 6 in the championship, from that we now find ourselves 7 hours from managing to score a goal in league one.
Talk of sacking Critchley is premature but surely we've got to see a tactical change and a couple of decent signings.
Amazing to think that it looked like a distinct possibility not much more than a year ago that we could push on and start threatening the top 6 in the championship, from that we now find ourselves 7 hours from managing to score a goal in league one.
Talk of sacking Critchley is premature but surely we've got to see a tactical change and a couple of decent signings.
Ahhhh - music to my ears. He then just needs to be cajoled into persuading CJ to join him on his 'longish' break, and for this process of persuasion to continue 'long-term', until such time as it actually begins to dawn on CJ that there really is no way back for him into the game and he might as well start planning for retirement ...Christmas certainly came early for Lincoln fans today. Two pens - a deflected goal and a man sent off for us.Just hope that Shayne isn’t badly injured?
Marv, meanwhile - needs to take a ‘longish’ break, to sort out his two left feet.
Graves
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I’m usually glass half full, but that was embarrassing today. We had so much more of the ball than them but it counts for nothing when you gift them goals like the first two.
1st pen Marv had no need to go to ground like that. I can only think that he was just attempting to block the low cross coming in with his whole body…
2nd goal we just backed off and let him score a worldie. No fight at all.
I really hope this gives Neil and the team a massive wake up call.
1st pen Marv had no need to go to ground like that. I can only think that he was just attempting to block the low cross coming in with his whole body…
2nd goal we just backed off and let him score a worldie. No fight at all.
I really hope this gives Neil and the team a massive wake up call.
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Blackpool_Fan
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Poor
Susanj
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This reminds me of a previous manager who set his side up not to lose but once a goal down there was no plan to recover so ended in relegation to League 2.
Early days so time to address . Attack is the best form of defence and if you score more goals that the opposition you win!!!!!
Early days so time to address . Attack is the best form of defence and if you score more goals that the opposition you win!!!!!
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BFC_53
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When you abandon all attacking intent, as we have done this season, the best you can hope for is a 0-0 draw. But eventually, owing to individual errors (because our players aren't world beaters), you will start losing games.
We've played Exeter, Port Vale, Leyton Orient, and Lincoln, and haven't scored against any of them. It's way way below the standards we should be expecting.
We'll genuinely struggle this season if we don't bring in a couple of forwards/creative midfielders with quality. By quality, I don't mean pace and effort, I mean the ability to run with the ball, take on players, or pick a pass. We've lost so much quality this summer it's crazy, and haven't replaced any of it, and it's becoming more and more apparent.
We've played Exeter, Port Vale, Leyton Orient, and Lincoln, and haven't scored against any of them. It's way way below the standards we should be expecting.
We'll genuinely struggle this season if we don't bring in a couple of forwards/creative midfielders with quality. By quality, I don't mean pace and effort, I mean the ability to run with the ball, take on players, or pick a pass. We've lost so much quality this summer it's crazy, and haven't replaced any of it, and it's becoming more and more apparent.
Hevster
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I get what you're saying and I do agree, to an extent.
Root and branch the club has improved overall I think. In terms of how it is run and feeling like those running things have good intentions - not difficult given the previous regime but still.... I think the owner is trying to run the club on a sustainable footing whilst trying hard to build the infrastructure it desperately needs. And trying to still make some funds available within the money there is.
I do agree with you, Tarantula, that there are things not right still. One I'd definitely question is has the money that is available been spent well. It's been mentioned plenty on here. Are we still not using the player budget we have in the best way. That feels problematic. I'd rather take longer to get back to the Championship with a squad that has a future than grab a short term bunch of journeymen then it fall apart again 2 seasons after. It's obvious if we go up we aren't going to spend heavily to bring in 6 to 8 Championship level players. We'll be bringing one or two in but looking to stay up and sustain with the squad that goes up. That needn't be a problem but it means the squad we build now has to be done carefully and cleverly.
For this season I can't see much more to come on additions to the squad. If there is room for one more I'd love another proper central midfielder cos it looks like Trybull isn't bothered, or Critch doesn't like him. I'd definitely be training on different formations whatever. With who we have and how they play I can't see this current 3-5-2 working for quite some time. If it ever can. I'd like to think this squad could compete for top 6, genuinely, but the right players need to be in their best positions. And they themselves have to put a damn sight more effort in - hence the kick up the arse.
I'm not loving what I'm seeing. I'm hopeful it can get better - it did last time with Critch. But I also hoped he would gave learnt from his last few jobs and his experience here and see things going wrong quicker than he currently appears to be doing. I'm definitely not after him going, just underwhelmed so far.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
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They didn’t….so glad i drove the 2 hours to get here. Hope they prove us wrong
Vince McLean
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Shayne was truly awful yesterday, his early air shot total miss of the ball as it was cut back to him in the 6-yard box (by CJ I think) was dreadful. He's a fighter, that's for sure - but not much else. Beesley looks totally ineffective. Poor CJ gets worse - Incredibly! Marv is shot to bits, and the formation looks as though NC is doing his best to make us as crap as possible.
For me Norburn shows and takes responsibility. I think Morgan is decent too - e.g. he moved into Norburn's position and started to play late on. Gotta start Weir and Rhodes, when will Joseph be ready? Pennington & Casey should be the 2 CBs at the mo - in a 442.