Liz Truss

ElBurroSinNombre said:
Dunno about that.
Truss will probably have to implement a windfall tax on energy companies at some future point and Starmer got her to rule that out yesterday. So at the very least it will be an embarrassing future u-turn or to follow through with a policy that is likely to be very unpopular.
Basically what Truss is proposing is to borrow 150 billion and give it straight to the energy companies over the next few months in the form of excess profits. Then (we) the tax payer will have to pay that 150 billion back over a period of 20 years. My guess is that most will see this as very unfair when a windfall tax could be triggered simply and energy companies have already factored it in to their calculations. This isn't party political, I think that most voters including natural Conservatives would see a windfall tax as preferable in these exceptional times.
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But none of this will matter, when the election comes the press with 99% support the Tories and sitting governments always have a big advantage over the opposition publicity wise, I'm not sure Starmer can win.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
But none of this will matter, when the election comes the press with 99% support the Tories and sitting governments always have a big advantage over the opposition publicity wise, I'm not sure Starmer can win.
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Clinton had a saying 'it's the economy you dummy'
The economy is fucked (under the Conservatives) partly through their mismanagement (Brexit deal, austerity policies etc) and partly through unexpected events (Covid, Energy price shock). I'm not sure that they can recover from this as it is really effecting people now. Under Truss they have taken a step to the right with policies that most mainstream economists would say are not sound. Truss will probably have a brief honeymoon before she starts to sink as reality bites. She has made herself a hostage to her own party by only appointing her supporters in her cabinet. How long before Sunak starts to leak 'I told you so' etc. And of course Johnson is hoping to return, so I am sure he will be scheming and sniping away. The Conservatives are fucked IMO.
 
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Lytham_fy8 said:
But none of this will matter, when the election comes the press with 99% support the Tories and sitting governments always have a big advantage over the opposition publicity wise, I'm not sure Starmer can win.
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I'm not sure its got much to do with sitting party bias, Starmer doesn't connect with anyone, if he was a personality vacuum with policies that appealed to traditional labour voters you might give him a chance, but Tory leaning voters wont vote for him cos he's labour, left leaning voters are unsure about him and think he's right leaning (with some justification) centrists wont vote for him because he has no discernible policies.

My honest opinion is that Trussed will try to do one thing that might be sensible for the country in order to garner popular appeal, such as a windfall tax, this will enrage the ERG and the other Tory nut-jobs, vote of no confidence ensues, she wins but not convincingly, resigns, the party welcomes Boris back by popular (Tory) demand, an other GE.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Clinton had a saying 'it's the economy you dummy'
The economy is fucked (under the Conservatives) partly through their mismanagement (Brexit deal, austerity policies etc) and partly through unexpected events (Covid, Energy price shock). I'm not sure that they can recover from this as it is really effecting people now. Under Truss they have taken a step to the right with policies that most mainstream economists would say are not sound. Truss will probably have a brief honeymoon before she starts to sink as reality bites and she has made herself a hostage to her own party by only appointing her supporters in her cabinet. How long before Sunak starts to leak 'I told you so' etc. And of course Johnson is hoping to return, so I am sure he will be scheming and sniping away. The Conservatives are fucked IMO.
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All true enough, the economy cost Brown in 2010, if he'd gone for the election earlier he probably would have won and the UK would look a lot different.

So in summary, it's all Gordon Brown's fault.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
But none of this will matter, when the election comes the press with 99% support the Tories and sitting governments always have a big advantage over the opposition publicity wise, I'm not sure Starmer can win.
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When you're 14 years in sitting party bias is reversed. Even in an otherwise completely even battlefield you should expect the opposition to have the advantage due to fatigue.
 
First poll out this morning with Truss as leader a whopping 15 point lead for Labour on 44% and the Tories on a dismal 29%. Great start to the honeymoon period.
 
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