Maradona Minutes Applause

The Vendor said:
LETS PUT HIS SO CALLED ACHIEVEMENTS INTO CONTEXT-HE WAS IN ONE WORLD CUP WINNING SIDE AND HE HELPED TO GET THEM THERE BY CHEATING.
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Firstly, he played incredibly that whole WC. Secondly, he took Napoli (who had never won a title beforehand - neither had a Southern team, for that matter, as Northern teams dominated) who were on a run of finishing 10th, 12th and 8th, to winning two titles and never finishing lower than third in five seasons. They also won the UEFA Cup, Coppa Italia (and runners up) and Italian Supercup.

His presence is still everywhere in Napoli, if you've ever been. They're going to rename the stadium after him - someone who isn't Neopolitan, or even Italian for that matter.

There's your context.

And it's not virtue signalling, it's showing some appreciation for an all-time great. If you don't like it, you can choose not to do it. Or you and the rest of the adult babies can wipe your behind on an Argentine flag, as you mentioned you would. Sounds like a nice afternoon.
 
thefutureistangerine said:
Firstly, he played incredibly that whole WC. Secondly, he took Napoli (who had never won a title beforehand - neither had a Southern team, for that matter, as Northern teams dominated) who were on a run of finishing 10th, 12th and 8th, to winning two titles and never finishing lower than third in five seasons. They also won the UEFA Cup, Coppa Italia (and runners up) and Italian Supercup.

His presence is still everywhere in Napoli, if you've ever been. They're going to rename the stadium after him - someone who isn't Neopolitan, or even Italian for that matter.

There's your context.

And it's not virtue signalling, it's showing some appreciation for an all-time great. If you don't like it, you can choose not to do it. Or you and the rest of the adult babies can wipe your behind on an Argentine flag, as you mentioned you would. Sounds like a nice afternoon.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Without googling can anyone name another Argentine player in their 1986 WC squad.
Virtually won it single handed.
Agree he cheated but how many of our players should have been sent off in that QF?
Then single handedly made Napoli champions in Italy.
Would I have loved to see him in tangerine..yes.
Would I have wanted him living next door..no.
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Burrachaga (sp)? Was Passerella in the 86 squad?
 
thefutureistangerine said:
Firstly, he played incredibly that whole WC. Secondly, he took Napoli (who had never won a title beforehand - neither had a Southern team, for that matter, as Northern teams dominated) who were on a run of finishing 10th, 12th and 8th, to winning two titles and never finishing lower than third in five seasons. They also won the UEFA Cup, Coppa Italia (and runners up) and Italian Supercup.

His presence is still everywhere in Napoli, if you've ever been. They're going to rename the stadium after him - someone who isn't Neopolitan, or even Italian for that matter.

There's your context.

And it's not virtue signalling, it's showing some appreciation for an all-time great. If you don't like it, you can choose not to do it. Or you and the rest of the adult babies can wipe your behind on an Argentine flag, as you mentioned you would. Sounds like a nice afternoon.
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Brilliantly put.

Not the angel some wish he was, he's human with faults. He is one of the greatest players, if not the greatest. I dont care what nationality he was, he deserves recognition.

Hes not the first cheat, nor the last.
 
I've got a theory that we see more and more minutes silences/applause the more football as whole becomes aware of it's moral failings. It won't address those moral failings but by encouraging a weekly sentimental ritual, it can improve its image.

I think clubs should arrange them according to their community. The applause for Warren Green, beautiful, touching, needed. Applauding or remembering every ex world cup winner or every 'legend' of the game as a whole. No. Have a memorial, do it at an international game if you want to make a big symbol.

Its meaningless unless it's connected to the club and community imo.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Half way through watching the Channel 4 documentary on his life (on their version of iPlayer). What a life. Born in a slum, main motovation as a kid was to buy his mum a house.

He'd just been laid out having been smashed in the head by an off the ball elbow by Terry Fenwick before his Hand of God goal. He also said it wasn't planned, just happened so quick.

People with prejudice against him should watch this documentary to get a more balanced view.
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Just watched it on All4 a really good watch thanks.
It‘s also on channel 4 tonight at 9.30 pm.👍
 
Poultongirl said:
I get what you are saying but I would much rather applaud for 1 minute a man that was genuinely one of the best. (Not like today’s pretenders!!!) than look at a load of sheep every week bending down on one knee for a political movement.
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Poultongirl... for the first time. I think, I totally agree with your post. As a football fan, Maradona delighted me with his skill.
 
BFC_53 said:
Moments of respect at English football grounds should be restricted to England greats and greats of each individual club in my opinion. And it should be a minutes silence, not applause.

Maradona was a great, but there have been many that we haven't felt the need to have a minutes respect. I'm not sure we should be singling him out for special treatment, especially when one of his biggest moments was a moment of epic cheating. As others have said, many England greats have passed away over the years and the world has barely noticed, and why should they.
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Don't agree... Maradona wasn't just a "great", he was (imho) the greatest exponent of beautiful, artistic football the world has ever seen (Okay, I may be getting a bit carried away - but undoubtedly had a special football talent). Regarding the "hand of God", every other nation in the world except England doesn't feel so bad about it (and let's face it the Argies would almost certainly have beaten us anyway that day) - so perhaps with a "World" talent, we should step back and take a "World" view...and acknowledge his (flawed) genius.
 
LimerickTangerine said:
Disagree completely about Mathews he was the greatest in the world in his prime 1st Ballon Dor winner and 1st footballer knighted. Mathews is equal or greater then Maradona in my opinion and lived a more respectable lifestyle
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Okay. I'm only viewing Maradona from a footballing point of view. Would I want him to meet my attractive daughter? No.
The "greatest" is a debate that will go on forever.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
I wonder how many Argentinian teams will be holding one minutes silence for two English World Cup winners....Nobby and Jack Charlton?
A great player, but as intimated before, a cheat, a druggy, an alcoholic and alleged wife beater and links with organised crime. Yep brilliant idea. 😒
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People aren't applausing his lifestyle...his football talent and achievements.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Perhaps posters actually have 'standards', and like me admire footballers who not only have skills, but also high personal ethics and lifestyles that can be admired and used as role models for the next generations.

The fat cheating little Argy certainly doesn't get my admiration on those points.
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Hmmm. what you are missing is that a lot of famous people who outwardly appear to high moral "standards" actually have many human frailties...as we have seen proved numerous times in recent years. Maradona did not particularly try to hide his issues.
 
The Vendor said:
What a strange thread.

OK MAC BULLSEYE.....

WHAT A STRANGE POST

It's a game born on these Isles. Would it not put us in a good light to give 1 minute of our lives to recognise a man that brought great joy to millions of people who love our game and spread it's popularity?
NOPE!
WHAT ABOUT THE MILLIONS TO WHOM HE DIDNT? ALSO LETS PUT HIS SO CALLED ACHIEVEMENTS INTO CONTEXT-HE WAS IN ONE WORLD CUP WINNING SIDE AND HE HELPED TO GET THEM THERE BY CHEATING.
AS WE ARE VENERATING FRAUDSTERS WHO HAVE SPREAD THE POPULARITY OF THE GAME, I SUGGEST A MINUTES APPLAUSE FOR SEPP WHEN HE FINALLY CROAKS.

The 2nd World War ended in 1945. This "Little England" attitude is pointless. The world is a small place now due to the internet and technology.

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE , I WILL TAKE DOWN MY BLACKOUT CURTAINS. BEYOND THAT IM NOT SURE OF THE RELEVANCE OF THIS REFERENCE UNLESS YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT AS A RESULT OF THE END OF WW2 I SHOULD CEASE TO SUPPORT MY NATIONAL TEAM.

He was an "icon" of our game. We should applaud that and be seen to be doing so.

TO WHOM? TO THE SANCTIMONIOUS FOOTBALL ‘KNOW IT ALLS’ WHO TELL US IT IS SO?

After all boys and girls - it's now a world game.
IT HAS BEEN SINCE 1930 SO AGAIN I’M UNSURE OF THE RELEVANCE HERE

Football is a game, not a political platform or another opportunity for virtuous signalling, so at 3pm I will be cheering on the Mighty having not knelt down and having just wiped my arse on an Argentina flag

By the way the upper case text is to highlight my responses not to be shouty , that would be rude.
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What a strange post
 
BlackpoolWolves said:
Don't agree... Maradona wasn't just a "great", he was (imho) the greatest exponent of beautiful, artistic football the world has ever seen (Okay, I may be getting a bit carried away - but undoubtedly had a special football talent). Regarding the "hand of God", every other nation in the world except England doesn't feel so bad about it (and let's face it the Argies would almost certainly have beaten us anyway that day) - so perhaps with a "World" talent, we should step back and take a "World" view...and acknowledge his (flawed) genius.
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We'll have to agree to disagree I think. In my opinion, a moments applause or silence should be reserved for a player that means something to you based on your club or country. Being a great doesn't in itself qualify. Maradona was undoubtedly a great, but he really doesn't mean anything to me, there just isn't a connection there at all. Just my thoughts.
 
Poultongirl said:
I get what you are saying but I would much rather applaud for 1 minute a man that was genuinely one of the best. (Not like today’s pretenders!!!) than look at a load of sheep every week bending down on one knee for a political movement.
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Hmmm. You are trying very hard, aren't you?
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Without googling can anyone name another Argentine player in their 1986 WC squad.
Virtually won it single handed.
Agree he cheated but how many of our players should have been sent off in that QF?
Then single handedly made Napoli champions in Italy.
Would I have loved to see him in tangerine..yes.
Would I have wanted him living next door..no.
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Without googling, I seem to remember Argentina had a player called something like George Brown, of British ancestry!
 
Why are people so bitter they can't appreciate a footballing genius and legend? The statement "would Argentina acknowledge our footballing greats" is straight out of primary school thinking. How does that matter? It's about celebrating a true football icon who rose from poverty (that none of us could comprehend) to be playing at a level that even top professional players are in awe of. It's time to be less partisan and grow up.
 
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