hertfordseasider
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Think the Donald!!Because social media is a reactionary cesspool where only deeply dramatic expressions suffice
Think the Donald!!Because social media is a reactionary cesspool where only deeply dramatic expressions suffice
Soccer AM does he live under a rockAnother one I like tweeting lots of media outlets too. Like they give two hoots. Just embarrassing:
I always said I'd buy the nobbers... minimum investment, maximum return!If I won the euro millions the most I would do is help financially re buying players or building something, I Ould never get properly involved
If you did then after most defeats, despite being perfectly happy with the squad and accepting of the manager beforehand, I'd turn on you and berate you, saying your passion has gone and you wanted to sell the club.If I won the euro millions the most I would do is help financially re buying players or building something, I Ould never get properly involved
I don't have wings but I know how things fly! If you think something is a danger to kids, I wouldn't just give them open access to it. I appreciate that isn't easy but having worked in technology for over 20 years, there are controls you can do in the home. You don't have to give little Johnny an iPhone when he's 10 either. My point stands, a few Blackpool fans ranting after a defeat on X isn't exactly a major problem in comparison to what else is on such platforms.I think 'I don't have kids' probably sums up your lack of understanding mate... 'Not letting them anywhere near Social Media' is a lovely idea, but it's not remotely practical or realistic in 2024.
Deleted, but then thatās happening a lot lately, allegedlyI like this one. Let the ear begin.....FFS!
Yes you wouldIf I won the euro millions the most I would do is help financially re buying players or building something, I Ould never get properly involved
Dream On!!I don't have wings but I know how things fly! If you think something is a danger to kids, I wouldn't just give them open access to it. I appreciate that isn't easy but having worked in technology for over 20 years, there are controls you can do in the home. You don't have to give little Johnny an iPhone when he's 10 either. My point stands, a few Blackpool fans ranting after a defeat on X isn't exactly a major problem in comparison to what else is on such platforms.
Whoās still up and fancyās a fightDream On!!
Should be a separate thread but lazyism kicked inWhoās still and fancyās a fight
It's beyond some parents, not all.Dream On!!
Itās not about being ābeyondā anyone, itās about the practical reality.It's beyond some parents, not all.
I wouldn't disagree with that. The point I'm making poorly is that it is possible to set boundaries. Not all kids carry knives, they could all easily obtain one though, so clearly it is possible to set boundaries, if you feel strongly enough about it or perceive something as a big enough danger.Itās not about being ābeyondā anyone, itās about the practical reality.
Of course your kid can be the only one in their friends group who has no phone. Though at the same time it might benefit both you and them if they did (safety, contact, location etc.)ā¦
Of course you can place restrictions on their access to the internet. Well at least you can at home, to some extent, some of the timeā¦. Though you canāt and wonāt stop their curiosity or their ingenuity in bypassing whatever ārulesā ātheir weirdo parentsā try to put in placeā¦ You canāt control their mateās devices for example..
In my experience censorship or āenforcementā of rules is rarely the best way to go with kids in any case. Their natural instinct is to experiment and break boundaries. Better to create an environment of trust and open honestyā¦ And engage with them on a level about the issues.
Fact of the matter is nowadays that kids are internet and ādeviceā savvy from a very early age (2-3 years old). Where that might go Iām not sure, but itās not parents who need to be getting to grips or controlling the internetā¦ Itās governmentsā¦ And maybe society in generalā¦
And thatās precisely why we need to start enforcing and promoting the same kind of standards in the āonline worldā as we might in our real worldā¦ which is why behaviour like that which we are discussing on the Blackpool Twitter feed, needs to be addressed and dealt with and challenged head onā¦. Individuals like this lad or ladsā¦ need to realise that the internet isnāt some free for all where they can abuse people and use profane language and that they are required to behave in a decent and civilised wayā¦. Just as they would be in any other area of society and interaction with other people.
I love the way he carries on swearing but still expects sky sports to listen to him!Soccer AM does he live under a rock
Itās not about being ābeyondā anyone, itās about the practical reality.
Of course your kid can be the only one in their friends group who has no phone. Though at the same time it might benefit both you and them if they did (safety, contact, location etc.)ā¦
Of course you can place restrictions on their access to the internet. Well at least you can at home, to some extent, some of the timeā¦. Though you canāt and wonāt stop their curiosity or their ingenuity in bypassing whatever ārulesā ātheir weirdo parentsā try to put in placeā¦ You canāt control their mateās devices for example..
In my experience censorship or āenforcementā of rules is rarely the best way to go with kids in any case. Their natural instinct is to experiment and break boundaries. Better to create an environment of trust and open honestyā¦ And engage with them on a level about the issues.
Fact of the matter is nowadays that kids are internet and ādeviceā savvy from a very early age (2-3 years old). Where that might go Iām not sure, but itās not parents who need to be getting to grips or controlling the internetā¦ Itās governmentsā¦ And maybe society in generalā¦
And thatās precisely why we need to start enforcing and promoting the same kind of standards in the āonline worldā as we might in our real worldā¦ which is why behaviour like that which we are discussing on the Blackpool Twitter feed, needs to be addressed and dealt with and challenged head onā¦. Individuals like this lad or ladsā¦ need to realise that the internet isnāt some free for all where they can abuse people and use profane language and that they are required to behave in a decent and civilised wayā¦. Just as they would be in any other area of society and interaction with other people.
Of course you can set boundaries and thatās precisely why we should not tolerate the kind of behaviour that gave rise to the discussion.I wouldn't disagree with that. The point I'm making poorly is that it is possible to set boundaries. Not all kids carry knives, they could all easily obtain one though, so clearly it is possible to set boundaries, if you feel strongly enough about it or perceive something as a big enough danger.
We digress from the subject though. The Internet is an amazing thing, filled with all the information a person needs and even more that they don't. It also contains people ranting off about 22 people kicking a ball around. If some of our fans have crossed the line in terms of levels of abuse, I don't blame the club one bit from blocking them. Way too many think they have the right to say what they want and expect no repercussions.
Maybe go back and read the conversation / thread from the beginning - check out other threads on the subject etcā¦Confused as to why we are speaking about kids on the internet when it's grown men calling SS on twitter!
I'm just pointing out it is possible to set boundaries with kids. Ultimately if you choose to bring kids into this world, they are your responsibility to protect them from danger. I wouldn't rely on the government or society, albeit i fully agree they should be more accountable. There are many controls available to block apps/sites. I appreciate in a lot of cases, kids are more tech savvy than their parents however.Of course you can set boundaries and thatās precisely why we should not tolerate the kind of behaviour that gave rise to the discussion.
And of course kids might come across worse things elsewhere on the internet, but thatās not a reason to challenge that behaviour in areas of the internet that kids ought to be able to interact with fairly safely.
Iām not sure the analogy of carrying a knife is the best one really. Very few kids carry knivesā¦
Me too. Play in defence and score own goals on a regular basis.I always said I'd buy the nobbers... minimum investment, maximum return!
Well yes itās possibleā¦ But itās quite different setting boundaries that involve them not carrying an illegal weapon that might kill somebody or get them arrested or better still encouraging them not to jump out of an airplane mid-flight, than it might be with something as normal and widespread as the internet.I'm just pointing out it is possible to set boundaries with kids. Ultimately if you choose to bring kids into this world, they are your responsibility to protect them from danger. I wouldn't rely on the government or society, albeit i fully agree they should be more accountable. There are many controls available to block apps/sites. I appreciate in a lot of cases, kids are more tech savvy than their parents however.
Apologies jumped straight in there without reading it in context as is the fashion these days!Confused as to why we are speaking about kids on the internet when it's grown men calling SS on twitter!
It's not really about kidding myself, just like I would never offer guidance to a parent or child, it's a line that isn't worth crossing. When it comes to kids, people tend to get pretty prickly, no matter how ill behaved their offspring are. I'm done debating it though, it's all opinions, neither of which are wrong.Well yes itās possibleā¦ But itās quite different setting boundaries that involve them not carrying an illegal weapon that might kill somebody or get them arrested or better still encouraging them not to jump out of an airplane mid-flight, than it might be with something as normal and widespread as the internet.
Itās our collective responsibility to protect children or anyone else from āso calledā danger, but of course as parents you are naturally going to be more intently focused on protecting your own kidsā¦ Although I suppose you have to try and tread a line between keeping them safe and alive and allowing them to āexperienceā things and develop life skills.
Itās not just about being more ātech savvyā ā¦ It really wouldnāt matter if youāre Bill Gates ā¦ Your kids will find a way. Just like we found a way to get up to all of the things that our parents didnāt know about
Of course you can try and kid yourself otherwiseā¦ And many people doā¦ blissful ignorance has always been an optionā¦
That's a good post tbf and hard to disagree with.Itās not about being ābeyondā anyone, itās about the practical reality.
Of course your kid can be the only one in their friends group who has no phone. Though at the same time it might benefit both you and them if they did (safety, contact, location etc.)ā¦
Of course you can place restrictions on their access to the internet. Well at least you can at home, to some extent, some of the timeā¦. Though you canāt and wonāt stop their curiosity or their ingenuity in bypassing whatever ārulesā ātheir weirdo parentsā try to put in placeā¦ You canāt control their mateās devices for example..
In my experience censorship or āenforcementā of rules is rarely the best way to go with kids in any case. Their natural instinct is to experiment and break boundaries. Better to create an environment of trust and open honestyā¦ And engage with them on a level about the issues.
Fact of the matter is nowadays that kids are internet and ādeviceā savvy from a very early age (2-3 years old). Where that might go Iām not sure, but itās not parents who need to be getting to grips or controlling the internetā¦ Itās governmentsā¦ And maybe society in generalā¦
And thatās precisely why we need to start enforcing and promoting the same kind of standards in the āonline worldā as we might in our real worldā¦ which is why behaviour like that which we are discussing on the Blackpool Twitter feed, needs to be addressed and dealt with and challenged head onā¦. Individuals like this lad or ladsā¦ need to realise that the internet isnāt some free for all where they can abuse people and use profane language and that they are required to behave in a decent and civilised wayā¦. Just as they would be in any other area of society and interaction with other people.
I rember when the fans backed youSome have said it's a bad look for the club. I saw some of the stuff posted, and that's a worse look. No need.
I get people are frustrated but shouting abuse into the vacuum that is twitter doesn't do anyone any good
The thing is Newbury, if youāve no practical experience of bringing kids up in this environment, then you can really only theorise. It really is that simpleā¦. Itās kind of like Rishi Sunak offering his input to those trying to manage a household budget on minimum wageā¦It's not really about kidding myself, just like I would never offer guidance to a parent or child, it's a line that isn't worth crossing. When it comes to kids, people tend to get pretty prickly, no matter how ill behaved their offspring are. I'm done debating it though, it's all opinions, neither of which are wrong.
In terms of the main thread, I think it's a fine line the club are treading. One of those banned hasn't anything positive to say about BFC and seems to pride himself on slagging anything and everybody off, freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit I guess.
I've never played professional football either, yet here we are on a football message board. So I'll skip the lecture if that is OK.The thing is Newbury, if youāve no practical experience of bringing kids up in this environment, then you can really only theorise. It really is that simpleā¦. Itās kind of like Rishi Sunak offering his input to those trying to manage a household budget on minimum wageā¦
So itās kind of inevitable that your āinputā is not necessarily going to be that well received - hence the prickly responses from the parents of those kids youāve deemed to be āill behavedā.
Itās not easy bringing up childrenā¦ And parents often donāt get the credit they deserve. It is easy to make the kind of assumptions you have made or to be somewhat judgemental about ill behaviour, especially when youāve never walked in those shoes.
The best insight I can offer you is that like most things in life, the practical realities are far different to the theoretical ideasā¦ And your plans are all fine and dandy until the minute you try to implement them. Unfortunately Kids arenāt Flat Packed furnitureā¦ they donāt come with an instruction manual and they donāt do what it says on the tin.
No you havenāt and Iād imagine your insights into professional football would be equally well received by a group of professional footballers / managers as your insights into bringing up kids are to most parents.I've never played professional football either, yet here we are on a football message board. So I'll skip the lecture if that is OK.
It was a comment to a different poster, you decided to have your two penneth. Not being something doesn't preclude you or anyone else from debating it either. Kids are a choice, you can't expect the world to suddenly change, like painting your house blue and then complaining it's too blue. I'll leave it there because frankly it's way off topic and getting a little bit tiresome.No you havenāt and Iād imagine your insights into professional football would be equally well received by a group of professional footballers / managers as your insights into bringing up kids are to most parents.
As for āskipping the lectureā, you might want to reflect on where the discussion startedā¦.. With you ālecturingā others on an issue youāve got no practical experience of.
Nope.. it doesnāt preclude you from debating mateā¦ It just means that other people might have some practical insight that you donāt, thatās all.It was a comment to a different poster, you decided to have your two penneth. Not being something doesn't preclude you or anyone else from debating it either. Kids are a choice, you can't expect the world to suddenly change, like painting your house blue and then complaining it's too blue. I'll leave it there because frankly it's way off topic and getting a little bit tiresome.
These stats tell us all we need to know about smartphone ownership in young people. They are in it from the beginning these days and excluded if they can't afford one or their parents take a stronger line. Many of us post the odd regrettable thing but wherever you are on free speech, you can assume that if its on the BFC twitter there is a strong chance a lot of kids are going to see it. Let alone the pointlessness of insulting our club owner or people doing their best to do a job, this is a great reason to show some common sense. I thought MSG were bang on the money with their statement repeated in the 'ZettttttteItās not about being ābeyondā anyone, itās about the practical reality.
Of course your kid can be the only one in their friends group who has no phone. Though at the same time it might benefit both you and them if they did (safety, contact, location etc.)ā¦
Of course you can place restrictions on their access to the internet. Well at least you can at home, to some extent, some of the timeā¦. Though you canāt and wonāt stop their curiosity or their ingenuity in bypassing whatever ārulesā ātheir weirdo parentsā try to put in placeā¦ You canāt control their mateās devices for example..
In my experience censorship or āenforcementā of rules is rarely the best way to go with kids in any case. Their natural instinct is to experiment and break boundaries. Better to create an environment of trust and open honestyā¦ And engage with them on a level about the issues.
Fact of the matter is nowadays that kids are internet and ādeviceā savvy from a very early age (2-3 years old). Where that might go Iām not sure, but itās not parents who need to be getting to grips or controlling the internetā¦ Itās governmentsā¦ And maybe society in generalā¦
And thatās precisely why we need to start enforcing and promoting the same kind of standards in the āonline worldā as we might in our real worldā¦ which is why behaviour like that which we are discussing on the Blackpool Twitter feed, needs to be addressed and dealt with and challenged head onā¦. Individuals like this lad or ladsā¦ need to realise that the internet isnāt some free for all where they can abuse people and use profane language and that they are required to behave in a decent and civilised wayā¦. Just as they would be in any other area of society and interaction with other people.
You do realise footy forums are also "social media?"Social media is one of the worst things to come into existence imo.
I saw some woman taking a selfie while walking across a zebra crossing the other day,presumably to post it on some sort of platform ālook at me walking across a zebra crossing while taking a selfie heheāBANG
crazy.
You nailed itItās something to get angry about though. I think thereās an element of our supporters a bit bored since the Oystons left.
āSaying it as it isā
Ahh yeah, you know someoneās being a wanker when that one gets trotted out.
They are giving an opinion nothing more. Just because they say it it doesnāt automatically mean thatās how it is.