tangerine_neil
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Wouldn’t surprise me if they just rounded up a few unfortunates to pin it on them.Yes. Cut his ear off before asking any questions.
Like. Why are you here by the way?
Wouldn’t surprise me if they just rounded up a few unfortunates to pin it on them.Yes. Cut his ear off before asking any questions.
Like. Why are you here by the way?
Absolutely sickening what happens to our beautiful planetIt would appear we haven’t really developed much beyond Neanderthal’s.
ISIS bodycam footage of the atrocities in Moscow.
Russian footage released of torturing some suspected terrorists.
Disgraceful all round.
Well they couldn’t stop the attacks. Despite plenty of foreign embassies warning their nationals of an impending attack. But somehow they were able to catch “the suspects” very quickly.Wouldn’t surprise me if they just rounded up a few unfortunates to pin it on them.
Most of those Baltic states are in NATO so why would you worry? They are protested by the Nato alliance.I didn't say its Trump's fault, but if he gets in power, it's goodbye Ukraine. I'd be very worried if I lived in the Baltic States.
You are kidding aren’t you.I didn't mean that. You inferred it. I'm just saying that he is Putin's lapdog.
Yep fighting forever and still at it.It would appear we haven’t really developed much beyond Neanderthal’s.
ISIS bodycam footage of the atrocities in Moscow.
Russian footage released of torturing some suspected terrorists.
Disgraceful all round.
I'm sure they will have been read thier rightsLooks like they have caught the Islam boys, wouldn’t like to be them
And Putin is a pauper? Possibly the richest man in the world.You are kidding aren’t you.
Trump who’s made millions is Putins lapdog.
Aff yer heid.
So you think a war with Russia as part of NATO is something that won't affect us?Most of those Baltic states are in NATO so why would you worry? They are protested by the Nato alliance.
As for Trump he’s gone on record as saying he will stop the war is that a bad thing? So what’s this goodbye Ukraine please explain in more detail.
One Russian boot on the ground or missile in the airspace of any NATO country and it’s goodbye Putin and goodbye Russia and Putin knows it so any invasion by the red army is just not going to happen.
It won’t effect us because it will never happen is what I’m saying.So you think a war with Russia as part of NATO is something that won't affect us?
It's not only goodbye Russia, its goodbye all of us.
It's how he will stop the war. Basically give Ukraine to Russia.
Ok Donald Trump needs to be pals with Putin, uck sakesAnd Putin is a pauper? Possibly the richest man in the world.
He 'solved' the Afghanistan situation by immediately running out, causing a whole heap of problems were still dealing with.It won’t effect us because it will never happen is what I’m saying.
And as for giving Ukraine to Russia if will never happen in a million years and yes even under a Trump government.
Ukraine will be part of NATO in the very near future it’s not Trumps or anyone else’s for that matter to give away.He 'solved' the Afghanistan situation by immediately running out, causing a whole heap of problems were still dealing with.
He'll do the same with Ukraine.
Every serious commentator on the situation says the same.
NATO follows America's lead, and Trump has blocked help for Ukraine for months already.Ukraine will be part of NATO in the very near future it’s not Trumps or anyone else’s for that matter to give away.
It was Biden who oversaw the disgraceful & chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. It was under Obama when Russia took over Crimea and it was under Biden when Russia invaded Ukraine. You may also remember ISIS running wild all over the Middle East & Europe during Obama and being thoroughly defeated under Trump.He 'solved' the Afghanistan situation by immediately running out, causing a whole heap of problems were still dealing with.
He'll do the same with Ukraine.
Every serious commentator on the situation says the same.
Beat me too it.It was Biden who oversaw the disgraceful & chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. It was under Obama when Russia took over Crimea and it was under Biden when Russia invaded Ukraine. You may also remember ISIS running wild all over the Middle East & Europe during Obama and being thoroughly defeated under Trump.
I wouldn't normally bite but the shameful delusions you stated above help to enable the scale of death and destruction we have seen in past couple of years.
Till this morning I may have agreed, but having just read that the leader of the Israeli settlers push to absorb the entire GazaStrip is a woman, I m not so sureWe'd have none of this global shambles if women were in power. Pathetic men with huge egos playing war games. It's tragic.
No it won't, especially while a) it's still at war with Russia and b) the Crimea is occupied.Ukraine will be part of NATO in the very near future it’s not Trumps or anyone else’s for that matter to give away.
In your opinion.No it won't, especially while a) it's still at war with Russia and b) the Crimea is occupied.
No, it's not my opinion, it's fact, if Ukraine join NATO while the war is raging it means NATO is at war with Russia under Article 5.In your opinion.
In my opinion I think we’ll see Ukraine join NATO in the next 5 years.
Speculation that it is ISIS-K behind this.
NATO won't take on Ukraine whilst the war is on, precisely because of Article 5.No, it's not my opinion, it's fact, if Ukraine join NATO while the war is raging it means NATO is at war with Russia under Article 5.
Yep.NATO won't take on Ukraine whilst the war is on, precisely because of Article 5.
But I didn’t say they would join while the war was going did I?No, it's not my opinion, it's fact, if Ukraine join NATO while the war is raging it means NATO is at war with Russia under Article 5.
So what about Crimea or Hungary inevitably saying no?But I didn’t say they would join while the war was going did I?
You did.
Falklands anyone?We'd have none of this global shambles if women were in power. Pathetic men with huge egos playing war games. It's tragic.
Bigging this up into a fight is stupid. We already have one insecure tyrant in charge. We don't want any more.Most of those Baltic states are in NATO so why would you worry? They are protested by the Nato alliance.
As for Trump he’s gone on record as saying he will stop the war is that a bad thing? So what’s this goodbye Ukraine please explain in more detail.
One Russian boot on the ground or missile in the airspace of any NATO country and it’s goodbye Putin and goodbye Russia and Putin knows it so any invasion by the red army is just not going to happen.
Not quite sure what you are implying here?So what about Crimea or Hungary inevitably saying no?
Fucks sake.Not quite sure what you are implying here?
Hungary are already a member of NATO and Crimea aren’t a country.
Which female initiated that?Falklands anyone?
C’mon, it was Trump who started itFalklands anyone?
Same here. It simply doesn’t add up that all 4 fled together, travelled 250 miles and were caught so easily without fighting or taking hostages or committing suicide.I don't know if I've missed something but the tracking down and arresting of these four men seems to have been done very quickly and easily.
I've read that they were picked up 100s of kms away from Moscow and it would appear that none of them put up any armed resistance.
Now if I had committed that crime in Russia and I thought the authorities were coming for me I'd be armed to the teeth and they wouldn't be taking me alive, death would be a blessing.
I'm thinking have these four blokes actually committed this atrocity?
Like I say I might have missed something but it just doesn't seem right to me.
I thought that as well, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re just patsies.I don't know if I've missed something but the tracking down and arresting of these four men seems to have been done very quickly and easily.
I've read that they were picked up 100s of kms away from Moscow and it would appear that none of them put up any armed resistance.
Now if I had committed that crime in Russia and I thought the authorities were coming for me I'd be armed to the teeth and they wouldn't be taking me alive, death would be a blessing.
I'm thinking have these four blokes actually committed this atrocity?
Like I say I might have missed something but it just doesn't seem right to me.
Poor bastards if that's the case.I thought that as well, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re just patsies.
SadPoor bastards if that's the case.
Worrying thing is if you read the daily mail online and have a look in the comments section (I need to stop doing it but it gives you an insight to the reactions, I'm not going to call them thoughts, of a large section of the UK population) the people on there are revelling in their pain and wanting us to treat people in the same way. It seems like some people aren't that interested in justice they just need their bloodlust to be satisfied!
According to one of the initial news bulletins I watched it said an army barracks are located just a few minutes away from the media centre yet it took over 45 minutes for anyone to arrive.I don't know if I've missed something but the tracking down and arresting of these four men seems to have been done very quickly and easily.
I've read that they were picked up 100s of kms away from Moscow and it would appear that none of them put up any armed resistance.
Now if I had committed that crime in Russia and I thought the authorities were coming for me I'd be armed to the teeth and they wouldn't be taking me alive, death would be a blessing.
I'm thinking have these four blokes actually committed this atrocity?
Like I say I might have missed something but it just doesn't seem right to me.
It was not a woman who started it!Falklands anyone?
After Tump romps home in the elections he’ll tell his mate uncle Vlad to give up either Crimea or the Dombass but they’ll keep one of them and withdraw from the other then everyone goes home happy and the war stops and Russia will be excepted again as a friendly nation in the international community as they’ve given back what they took over the last 2 years.Fucks sake.
Crimea is a subdivision of Ukraine but occupied by Russia since 2014, which would mean part of NATO under Russian annexation.
Hungary are a NATO member who absolutely will vote no to Ukraine joining, it blocks all interaction due to concerns over human rights, for Ukraine to join it needs a yes from all members.
All a bit moot anyway, Ukraine would have to win, how likely do you think that is, especially if cunty bollocks gets elected in November?
'Uncle Vlad' ! FFS he is a mass murderer and criminal.After Tump romps home in the elections he’ll tell his mate uncle Vlad to give up either Crimea or the Dombass but they’ll keep one of them and withdraw from the other then everyone goes home happy and the war stops and Russia will be excepted again as a friendly nation in the international community as they’ve given back what they took over the last 2 years.
Simple I know but that’s my prediction.
Peace in our time!After Tump romps home in the elections he’ll tell his mate uncle Vlad to give up either Crimea or the Dombass but they’ll keep one of them and withdraw from the other then everyone goes home happy and the war stops and Russia will be excepted again as a friendly nation in the international community as they’ve given back what they took over the last 2 years.
Simple I know but that’s my prediction.
Appeasement didn’t work with Hitler. Like you I doubt it’d work with Putin.'Uncle Vlad' ! FFS he is a mass murderer and criminal.
An alternative scenario is that Trump is elected, Putin, very happy with Trump's lukewarm support for NATO, tries to broker an agreement to stop the fighting in Ukraine in exchange for territory (as you envisage). Putin then sets his sites on gaining territory in one of the Baltic states who would, like Ukraine, find it difficult to defend themselves alone. This puts other NATO members into a difficult position and ends up with the eventual breakup of the organisation completely changing world dynamic and placing more power in the hands of China, India and Russia. A 'new' NATO emerges without the US and Hungary but is significantly weaker etc., etc. The world is plunged into chaos and a conflict breaks out in the Balkans etc. etc. It's all pure speculation.
The short answer is that anything could happen. However, If you think that appeasing Putin by ceding territory in a sovereign country to him is the correct course of action, I would say that you are completely wrong. All that will do is embolden him.
That was Biden Wiz. You are incorrect there Sir ….spoils your argument a littleHe 'solved' the Afghanistan situation by immediately running out, causing a whole heap of problems were still dealing with.
He'll do the same with Ukraine.
Every serious commentator on the situation says the same.
Of course it wouldn’tAppeasement didn’t work with Hitler. Like you I doubt it’d work with Putin.
Maybe, but all stolen money.And Putin is a pauper? Possibly the richest man in the world.
Trump negotiated the withdrawal deal in Doha and it was implemented by his administration. By the time the Biden administration took over there were only 2500 US troops remaining in Afghanistan.That was Biden Wiz. You are incorrect there Sir ….spoils your argument a little
We'd noticed.Simple I know.
We'd noticed.
I'm only teasing. I think you're quite an interesting study, actually.