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Frightening statistics really

Not particularly frightening, at worst the death rate for that age group is 1/10,000 and presumably most of those have underlying conditions.

I did say on another thread that perhaps they should lock them all in for a couple of weeks, supply food and as much beer as they can drink and let them party until they've all got it.
 
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Thing in the Times today saying 1 in 20 people in Central Fallowfield ward tested positive in the w/e October 2nd. For those who don't know Manchester, Fallowfield is student central for the city.
 
Thing in the Times today saying 1 in 20 people in Central Fallowfield ward tested positive in the w/e October 2nd. For those who don't know Manchester, Fallowfield is student central for the city.
Another suicide there today.
 
Not particularly frightening, at worst the death rate for that age group if 1/10,000 and presumably most of those have underlying conditions.

I did say on another thread that perhaps they should lock them all in for a couple of weeks, supply food and as much beer as they can drink and let them party until they've all got it.
Id say its frightening as it shows yet again how easy this thing spreads through social interaction.
Far easier to catch than the flu & a lot more deadly.

Obviously students are not in the 'at risk' group.
Lets just hope they never come into contact with others who may be.
 
Maybe more frightening is that 3 students in Newcastle have actually died recently. Dodgy drugs involved.
Well were they really bad drugs or did covid play a part as it weakened them so the drugs became deadly?
Everybody knows taking drugs is a risk.

I know its 'The Sun' but according to this Newcastle is the drugs death capital of the UK so unfortunately some students are gonna fall foul of it.

 
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My mate is head of accountancy at Northumbria Uni. They've had loads test positive. I guess it's better to get it whilst you are young?
 
My mate is head of accountancy at Northumbria Uni. They've had loads test positive. I guess it's better to get it whilst you are young?
Youngest grand daughter there now
Only 3 in a block of 8 rooms and on line tutoring so not the experience she was hoping for
 
Youngest grand daughter there now
Only 3 in a block of 8 rooms and on line tutoring so not the experience she was hoping for
Yes, it's a real shame mate. I know a girl who is being charged £9000 for rent and she isn't even staying there. Wont refund her mind!
 
It's disgusting the way that young people are being ripped off at Universities. If I were there I'd be straight onto the authorities to enquire what the hell I'm getting for my money and if it's not good enough I'll consider suing them. Then again, I'm not 18.
 
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It's disgusting the way that young people are being ripped off at Universities. If I were there I'd be straight onto the authorities to enquire what the hell I'm getting for my money and if it's not good enough I'll consider during them. Then again, I'm not 18.
I’m not sure it’s ‘disgusting’ really.

It’s certainly a very unfortunate situation, but there’s quite a lot of that going on at the moment.
 
I’m not sure it’s ‘disgusting’ really.

It’s certainly a very unfortunate situation, but there’s quite a lot of that going on at the moment.
The amount of it does not justify it. Charging for tuition fees was the definition of privatising higher education.
 
I'm not sure "disgusting" is the right word but the problem is that the whole university system is such a massive "business" for the UK now and the students have been used as "guinea pigs" by the Government and all the vested financial interests. As well as the University Halls (that the majority of students don't stay in for more than their first year anyway), there are probably a few hundred thousand "private landlords" - either individuals trying to make some "easy" cash or often large companies with lots of investors. For example, I have 2 friends who invest (via a company) in student housing. None of the day to day hassle but around 6% return I think (where else can you get that nowadays?). I have two of my children at uni now - second and third year. In both cases they had to sign up in January (to a legally binding contract you can't get any refunds on btw) for their accommodation to run from this September until next July/August. That's being locked in for 18 months in advance. In my day, I turned up at Uni the week before starting each year to get accommodation and you paid per term. No other liabilities. One year I lived in 3 different places. No problem.
Plus there are all the builders, plumbers, electricians, cleaners etc directly working maintaining these buildings. Then there are all the other businesses in university towns and cities who only make money when the students are there - not just food outlets and drinking establishments - everything from barbers to tattoo parlours. In some places the population more than doubles when the students are back. Economically, the country "needed" the students to come back to uni.
The universities also knew that to not allow these young people into Halls etc would mean that a large percentage of First Years would decide to defer to next year...and many Second and Third Year students might decide to give up. Financial disaster for the universities, especially with the lack of overseas students. So the Government decided to take a chance and the students are largely victims of the system.
My two lads have both already said that "it's nothing like last year". This is time and missed experiences they will never get back. But, like hundreds of thousands of other students, both they (and us) are still paying for full whack for their University course and experience - regardless of how good either are.
I know there will be many other parents on here in a similar situation.
"Send them back home!" some people say. These are not little kids. In many cases, the students don't want to go home - and neither do the parents particularly want them home sometimes. And of course, they will still be paying £9000 a year to do an online course. Who on here would choose to do that??
The Government put students in this situation. It hasn't worked out as the Government hoped - and they need to manage the consequences of their decision (imho)
 
The Government put students in this situation. It hasn't worked out as the Government hoped - and they need to manage the consequences of their decision (imho)

I think the blame here attaches to the universities more than the government here.

The government largely has a binary choice, universities open/closed, once that choice is made it's up to the universities to manage their operations and provide a satisfactory service to the students, and for the students (and parents) to decide if they want to use that service.

I think there's a strong case for saying that the universities have mis-sold their product to the students (first years in particular) and the government should perhaps step in to provide a remedy, the right to withdraw or re-negotiate contracts might make sense.

I'd be interested to hear @TwelveAngryMen 's opinion as to whether the students have a cause to action in law.
 
Welcome to capitalist UK. Money, money, money. It's all that matters these days. Might as well have Karl and Owen running the country at least you'd know exactly what was happening with your taxes. £12bn on promenade track and trace
 
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