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XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn

XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn

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We are going to need a decent start to the season otherwise the atmosphere could easily turn very sour on Appleton .

Liked his interview on Radio lancs & some of what he said has eased my negative vibes on the appointment .
 
You're right. While there will be those initial critics who will "give him a chance" most will grab the chance to be proved right all along if we don't show the promise of success - and in entertaining style. Don't think I can remember a new manager come in for us with so many knives at the ready.
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
We are going to need a decent start to the season otherwise the atmosphere could easily turn very sour on Appleton .

Liked his interview on Radio lancs & some of what he said has eased my negative vibes on the appointment .
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People need to get behind him, not turn on him if we lose a few games.

How does the atmosphere turning sour help us if we start poorly.

People need to get a grip and back the man as much as anyone else.

It's not difficult, if he fails we fail.
 
Fans have had a bloody fantastic 3 years….. things are happening, we’re not being bullshited and plans and the infrastructure are in place. okay, I was‘t enamoured by the MA appointment at first, but we‘ve just got to crack on with it. After all, who are we to judge the board after so many positive things have happened? This club was a basket case until SS walked in.
After thinking about things all BFC - I don’t think Ditchley was the right person to take us forward, in some ways he was way, way out of his depths and bloody lucky! good coach - poor manager!
will I be renewing ST - absolutely
UTMP
 
The support has been fantastic and has been praised, but if people want to call themselves good fans you have to prove it, top fans don't turn after a few defeats.

I dont think we will as people surely see positivity is key.

The lads, manager, Simon, eveyone needs that support.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Well I hope that this appointment can see an end to the long queues in the treatment room and players having to spend ages "on the grass."
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I think there are some on here who think the board have been ‘on the grass’ making this appointment 🤣

I’m a bit underwhelmed tbh, but I will save my overall opinion for when I’ve seen the style of play and results over a reasonable number of games.
 
911_Kirky said:
Fans have had a bloody fantastic 3 years….. things are happening, we’re not being bullshited and plans and the infrastructure are in place. okay, I was‘t enamoured by the MA appointment at first, but we‘ve just got to crack on with it. After all, who are we to judge the board after so many positive things have happened? This club was a basket case until SS walked in.
After thinking about things all BFC - I don’t think Ditchley was the right person to take us forward, in some ways he was way, way out of his depths and bloody lucky! good coach - poor manager!
will I be renewing ST - absolutely
UTMP
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Kelly's Heroes - Odd Ball. "All these negative waves". Time to give Appleton, as with any other new manager, a chance. A chance to show what he is about. A chance for him to succeed. If it does not work out, well ok. In the meantime let's fill our glasses at least half full - those with a glass half empty, you are not supporting the team, are you?
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
We are going to need a decent start to the season otherwise the atmosphere could easily turn very sour on Appleton .
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Totally agree, a bad start and we are in for an Autumn of Discontent in the stands with fans v fans
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
Liked his interview on Radio lancs & some of what he said has eased my negative vibes on the appointment .
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personally don't give a poop what he says in interviews- meaningless and from a hymn sheet. Don't get suckered into thinking different.
 
fcblackpool said:
Totally agree, a bad start and we are in for an Autumn of Discontent in the stands with fans v fans

personally don't give a poop what he says in interviews- meaningless and from a hymn sheet. Don't get suckered into thinking different.
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Only if peoples attitudes are like this we are, if they're supportive knowing that failure for him is failure for us, then people will get behind him even through tough spells, which will happen in this division.
 
JJpool said:
Only if peoples attitudes are like this we are, if they're supportive knowing that failure for him is failure for us, then people will get behind him even through tough spells, which will happen in this division.
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We'll have to wait and see, or rather hope it's not an issue. A good start, say 11 from the first 6 games and he gets a lot of credit in the bank and doubts will evaporate never to return. The alternative isn't thinkable especially for the Board.
 
fcblackpool said:
We'll have to wait and see, or rather hope it's not an issue. A good start, say 11 from the first 6 games and he gets a lot of credit in the bank and doubts will evaporate never to return. The alternative isn't thinkable especially for the Board.
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IMO option people need to get over it, he hasn't done anything to deserve hating on, a lot of the upset was about myths for some.

There's no benefit to threatening to turn after x games if we do badly or no benefit to it happening dynamically.

This season may well be tougher for us anyway, so we're all going to have to be together.
 
JJpool said:
IMO option people need to get over it, he hasn't done anything to deserve hating on, a lot of the upset was about myths for some.

There's no benefit to threatening to turn after x games if we do badly or no benefit to it happening dynamically.

This season may well be tougher for us anyway, so we're all going to have to be together.
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You know as well as I do just what football fans are like. There is a body of fans who are very sceptical about his appt. and that won't go away without a good start. If that doesn't happen then the undercurrent will rise and people will have their say. That is human nature and nothing to do with being proper fans.

I feel the fixture list could be very important- last thing we need is a black kit Norwich away opener.
 
only got the job because Mansford was his agent, he wanted Heckingbottom before Critch another one that no fan wanted. he finally got his wish with this appointment despite fans negative reaction, screams jobs for the boys. I would of gone this season regardless of the manager however i didnt want him before he was appointed and its going to take a lot before I even think about chanting Appleton's tangerine army, and if we have very poor first 10 games I can see it becoming very toxic. however the club has clearly said they dont care about fans opinions if they think they are making the right decision and therefore I cant see them biting the bullet until its too late if it goes Pearshaped
 
JJpool said:
The support has been fantastic and has been praised, but if people want to call themselves good fans you have to prove it, top fans don't turn after a few defeats.

I dont think we will as people surely see positivity is key.

The lads, manager, Simon, eveyone needs that support.
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Some of our fans turned against Critchley about 4 games into the season. (One or two refused to turn back!). Every club has its wacko angry element.
 
Pretty much agree with the OP and Founts on this one. It’s an underwhelming appointment no matter how the club try and spin it and Apples was always going to say the right things in interview- I mean how could be not?

This is the first test for a while in the new era. The fans will always back the team, but this is football and we all know that a slow start with a poor run of form will get people grumbling. Positivity is needed from the stands for sure, but it doesn’t come for free...
 
Appleton is the sort to accept whatever conditions there are. Like Holloway did when he joined us, as a way back into management after his Leicester debacle.

I expected some string applicants in the wake of Critchley. Properly run club, in the Championship, heading in the right direction. But I guess applicants would have to deal with some constraints, like a low budget for the division, restrictions in bringing their own staff in, the training facilities, and the wages too. We are still upper league one in terms of finance and infrastructure. It determines what we can attract. A perceived relegation battle on a tight budget with a windy and basic place to prepare isn't likely to pull the classiest birds. But you think back to Holloway and the wheelie bin ice baths and think fuck em, we are better off with the working class geezer who just gets on with the job and doesn't moan. Do we want to be all slick and modern and high class?

Apparently yes, we do!
 
One thing is for certain, and that's there's likely to be another couple of hundred of threads and a thousand posts or so to come before the season kicks of people offering their opinions of Appleton. I'll just wait until were well into the season before giving my opinion. Personally, think that's the best way to judge him.
 
Gonna leave judgement till near Christmasish, any boo boys round us who start with their antics after a few games will be told to politely fuck off! Anyway on me hols at the mo, and it’s shicker time again. 🍻
 
fcblackpool said:
You know as well as I do just what football fans are like. There is a body of fans who are very sceptical about his appt. and that won't go away without a good start. If that doesn't happen then the undercurrent will rise and people will have their say. That is human nature and nothing to do with being proper fans.

I feel the fixture list could be very important- last thing we need is a black kit Norwich away opener.
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voyeur said:
Some of our fans turned against Critchley about 4 games into the season. (One or two refused to turn back!). Every club has its wacko angry element.
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Yes there's always an element of people going too far or not able to let their feelings go.

It should be easy as it's in BFC's best interests for him to succeed.

There's having a grumble and getting annoyed but I looked at Lee Charles video of the instant reaction to his appointment, despite the Lincoln fan telling people he was decent.... there was a I'm handing in my ST comment, plus the guy booing on the balcony..... bear in mind this is before Sadler put some of these people straight......but I saw this absolutely disgraceful comment.

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There's being disappointed and what not, but to try and make this into an Oyston type fan splitting moment, how the fuck is that going to help the club, some pool fan he must be 😡

I know this was heat of the moment and people have calmed but I couldn't let this go...
 
The boycott changed us as fans some have come back with a sense of entitlement and can't wait to throw the toys out of the pram at every turn.

Using Appleton as your not buying ST has to be the biggest cop out ever let's cut the bull you weren't really getting one in the first place as there's less than 2 weeks to go and they've been on sale for 4.

We became the twelfth man last season home and away getting results back from the death are we now to lose that because they don't like MA that's a quick fire way to relegation.
 
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JJpool said:
Yes there's always an element of people going too far or not able to let their feelings go.

It should be easy as it's in BFC's best interests for him to succeed.

There's having a grumble and getting annoyed but I looked at Lee Charles video of the instant reaction to his appointment, despite the Lincoln fan telling people he was decent.... there was a I'm handing in my ST comment, plus the guy booing on the balcony..... bear in mind this is before Sadler put some of these people straight......but I saw this absolutely disgraceful comment.

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There's being disappointed and what not, but to try and make this into an Oyston type fan splitting moment, how the fuck is that going to help the club, some pool fan he must be 😡

I know this was heat of the moment and people have calmed but I couldn't let this go...
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Yeah, there is complete over reaction, which, to be fair is countered by those who have 'heard him speak' on RB and now think the CL beckons (well not quite, but they have drawn a correlation between the interview and his management ability, just like others that think because he had cancer he's suddenly going to make subs at 65m and not 78). The proof will be in results firstly, but longer term is progression and here is where my gripe lies- I don't think he'll grow into a top c/ship manager.

Happy to be wrong, so let's hope he gets off to a decent start. And please GOD nobody draw any conclusions form pre-season games one way or the other.
 
If he ends up being rubbish I doubt the ire of fans will primarily be aimed most vociferously at the manager, I think it will definitely end up in the direction of Mansford and the owner as they have claimed this as their choice despite having rehired an old manager previously and then gone and done it again to similar effect. And this time told us all we know nothing and are out of order for voicing concerns.

If he does fail badly, and as a sceptic, I am more likely to feel disappointed that we made the mistake and sit there quietly resigned to disaster that’s been self inflicted. I don’t think I’ll be setting out to hope he fails.
 
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If he ends up being rubbish I doubt the ire of fans will primarily be aimed most vociferously at the manager, I think it will definitely end up in the direction of Mansford and the owner as they have claimed this as their choice despite having rehired an old manager previously and then gone and done it again to similar effect. And this time told us all we know nothing and are out of order for voicing my concerns.

If he does fail badly, and as a sceptic, I am more likely to feel disappointed that we made the mistake and sit their quietly resigned to disaster that’s been self inflicted. I don’t think I’ll be setting out to hope he fails.
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If it goes Boobies up Mansford won't survive. On the assumption of having an indepth knowledge of MA you can only assume that this was taken heavily on board when rejecting Pep and Klopp.
 
fcblackpool said:
Yeah, there is complete over reaction, which, to be fair is countered by those who have 'heard him speak' on RB and now think the CL beckons (well not quite, but they have drawn a correlation between the interview and his management ability, just like others that think because he had cancer he's suddenly going to make subs at 65m and not 78). The proof will be in results firstly, but longer term is progression and here is where my gripe lies- I don't think he'll grow into a top c/ship manager.

Happy to be wrong, so let's hope he gets off to a decent start. And please GOD nobody draw any conclusions form pre-season games one way or the other.
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What qualities do top Championship managers possess that MA lacks? Who actually is a top Championship manager?
 
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Ollie got a worse reception upon his appointment. Utter dismay was the general feeling.
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I did cancel my S/T when he was appointed I hated the guy. Must rank as not one of the cleverest moves I ever made !!!!
Couldn’t get it back for love nor money the Prem season.
Never again. Give the man a chance.
 
Tangojack said:
Forget Appleton. It is fan negativity that's our biggest threat this season.
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To be positive in these negative times we go to support the players on the pitch that’s whats most important. We have a good base of players and they recognise the support the fans show to how they perform. Until that changes, just keep turning up and show that we care about our football club. UTMP😁
 
fcblackpool said:
We'll have to wait and see, or rather hope it's not an issue. A good start, say 11 from the first 6 games and he gets a lot of credit in the bank and doubts will evaporate never to return. The alternative isn't thinkable especially for the Board.
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If Appleton gets 11 points from the first six games we will start to believe we are on the way to the EPL. 8 points would be a good start.
 
I did like critch but the silence from him speaks volumes . I think Appleton has the experience to keep us in this division .we wee terrible towards the end of the season . Forest batter weed us , derby humiliated us a peterbough hammered us .it was hit and miss with critch great one game , awful the next. Appleton will bring stability to the club and I honestly believe he will do well for us
 
highfieldsouthshore said:
I did like critch but the silence from him speaks volumes . I think Appleton has the experience to keep us in this division .we wee terrible towards the end of the season . Forest batter weed us , derby humiliated us a peterbough hammered us .it was hit and miss with critch great one game , awful the next. Appleton will bring stability to the club and I honestly believe he will do well for us
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61 points on a tight budget. Too easily dismissed.
 
voyeur said:
61 points on a tight budget. Too easily dismissed.
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Agree. There's a fair bit of revising history going on on this message board last couple of days. Three weeks ago 90% on here were happy with Critchley, with most very happy. Now he's left, he was going to be a disaster next season, and just 'did a job' for us the last two years.
Then we've got a lot of people happy to see Keshi go. One of our most creative players last season and with Bowler leaving that's nearly all our assists gone from the team. Both players brought in and improved into million pound players by the previous manager btw, who obviously was only being his mediocre self..
 
BFC_53 said:
Agree. There's a fair bit of revising history going on on this message board last couple of days. Three weeks ago 90% on here were happy with Critchley, with most very happy. Now he's left, he was going to be a disaster next season, and just 'did a job' for us the last two years.
Then we've got a lot of people happy to see Keshi go. One of our most creative players last season and with Bowler leaving that's nearly all our assists gone from the team. Both players brought in and improved into million pound players by the previous manager btw, who obviously was only being his mediocre self..
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Well said.
 
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