Online gambling sponsorship and advertising

hertfordseasider

hertfordseasider

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I was listening to an interesting piece on Radio 5 this morning about the government looking at ways of eradicating the above from football grounds and on kit sponsorship. I think that in 5 to 10 years this advertising will be banned, like cigarette advertising was banned in Formula 1. It is a terrible thing to be promoting and I hope they succeed.

I think we made a terrible moral judgement call when we took on our main shirt sponsors and I hope the club realise this and do the right thing and get rid and replace it with something far more wholesome.
 
I like a bet and I can tell you now that having no advertising or sponsor ship from gambling firms will make no difference . I use 4 different firms and none are the ones on our team shirts . Yet if you have the bug ,you will always find some way of gambling . Blackpool FC should make what they can out of this firm and then you know it is going to a good cause.
 
Gambling is a terrible addiction & people really need help to try & stop , as it ruins lives . As above poster stated, shirt advertising will make no impact on stopping people , so might as well take their money for the time being & hopefully switch soon.
Eventually it will be banned .
 
As ever useless governments going about things the wrong way.

Taking alcohol off Football shirts hasn't made one jot of a difference.

Smoking reduction has reduced by pricing, banning in public,health warnings and initiatives followed by patches and vaping alternatives not because they've took it off the side of a F1 car same for gambling football sponsorship it won't do anything to the problems we have.
 
Will never stop it same as alcohol and fags all Leo vegas are doing is trying to make you use theirs instead of another.
 
Seasider1953 said:
Gambling is a terrible addiction & people really need help to try & stop , as it ruins lives . As above poster stated, shirt advertising will make no impact on stopping people , so might as well take their money for the time being & hopefully switch soon.
Eventually it will be banned .
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Gambling is a terrible addiction, but only for a tiny minority of people, just like having a drink doesn't make you an alcoholic.

Should we get the mods to remove all the tipping threads we get on here?

As all things, it's a personal choice to bet or not.
 
If anything they should ban on line gambling. That I think is where the main danger lies. It's too easy to do and too easy to hide until it's too late.
 
Maybe we should have the number for the Samaritans on our shirts instead to help all those getting upset by things like this. Also for any on here who read A Tense Grin's posts 👍
 
hertfordseasider said:
I was listening to an interesting piece on Radio 5 this morning about the government looking at ways of eradicating the above from football grounds and on kit sponsorship. I think that in 5 to 10 years this advertising will be banned, like cigarette advertising was banned in Formula 1. It is a terrible thing to be promoting and I hope they succeed.

I think we made a terrible moral judgement call when we took on our main shirt sponsors and I hope the club realise this and do the right thing and get rid and replace it with something far more wholesome.
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So Mr Firestick opens a new thread to criticise the club for taking money from a source which he deems is unwholesome when he himself not only puts nowt into the club but even worse, he helps himself to the club's content online.

What a flaming cheek that is!
 
hertfordseasider said:
I was listening to an interesting piece on Radio 5 this morning about the government looking at ways of eradicating the above from football grounds and on kit sponsorship. I think that in 5 to 10 years this advertising will be banned, like cigarette advertising was banned in Formula 1. It is a terrible thing to be promoting and I hope they succeed.

I think we made a terrible moral judgement call when we took on our main shirt sponsors and I hope the club realise this and do the right thing and get rid and replace it with something far more wholesome.
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They will need to take it off phone apps as well
 
King Billy said:
I think the point is it ruins lives and kills people. Probably a lot more than gambling does.
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I don’t do either, I also think they’re both,taken in moderation, enjoyed by millions of people. I was merely pointing out that gambling, particularly as has been said online gambling, is a far quicker way to financial ruination than alcohol.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I was listening to an interesting piece on Radio 5 this morning about the government looking at ways of eradicating the above from football grounds and on kit sponsorship. I think that in 5 to 10 years this advertising will be banned, like cigarette advertising was banned in Formula 1. It is a terrible thing to be promoting and I hope they succeed.

I think we made a terrible moral judgement call when we took on our main shirt sponsors and I hope the club realise this and do the right thing and get rid and replace it with something far more wholesome.
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Wetwipe alert
 
I'd be happy to see the end of advertising and shirt sponsorship and support any action that protects people.

"According to the latest Public Health England report on gambling, 0.5% of the population (approximately 246,000 people) are problem gamblers, and 3.8% (2.2 million people) are ‘at-risk’ gamblers."

I agree that problem people will always find a way but if you can avoid normalising, promoting, and even glamourising gambling you could stop people from falling into it. I like a bet but have seen how destructive it can be, it can define people's existence.
 
Sven said:
I'd be happy to see the end of advertising and shirt sponsorship and support any action that protects people.

"According to the latest Public Health England report on gambling, 0.5% of the population (approximately 246,000 people) are problem gamblers, and 3.8% (2.2 million people) are ‘at-risk’ gamblers."

I agree that problem people will always find a way but if you can avoid normalising, promoting, and even glamourising gambling you could stop people from falling into it. I like a bet but have seen how destructive it can be, it can define people's existence.
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And 46% of people who gamble online on Casino sites have a gambling addiction, that's mad. I just don't understand it, I don't understand the mentality of it at all, yet I love going to the horse racing and used to go a lot in the 80's and 90's, did Cheltenham for 11 yeas on the bounce with my dad, uncle and cousin and a couple of Mayes, yet I would never gamble more than £30 in a day be it on one horse or on 6 that was my max, I love the spectacle, but cards, online machines I don't see it. I don't gamble at all now and haven't for years. My uncle lost his home because of gambling on the horses and my grandad was a terrible gambler. Addictions are terrible things be it gambling, drink, drugs once you get to that state you are fucked, the idea of banning advertising is to try and make it less in the limelight and stop young people from getting involved.
 
hertfordseasider said:
And 46% of people who gamble online on Casino sites have a gambling addiction, that's mad. I just don't understand it, I don't understand the mentality of it at all, yet I love going to the horse racing and used to go a lot in the 80's and 90's, did Cheltenham for 11 yeas on the bounce with my dad, uncle and cousin and a couple of Mayes, yet I would never gamble more than £30 in a day be it on one horse or on 6 that was my max, I love the spectacle, but cards, online machines I don't see it. I don't gamble at all now and haven't for years. My uncle lost his home because of gambling on the horses and my grandad was a terrible gambler. Addictions are terrible things be it gambling, drink, drugs once you get to that state you are fucked, the idea of banning advertising is to try and make it less in the limelight and stop young people from getting involved.
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I can agree with all that but why do you expect the club to take the moral high ground when we are surrounded by gambling advertising?

We even play in Sky Bet League One!
 
Taking tobacco sponsorship off F1 cars did make a difference though - not having images of high profile sports and sports stars wearing and displaying things that normalise and make something seem cool definitely has an effect. Once this started happening, tobacco companies shifted their efforts to Africa and poorer countries to get their numbers up.
Taking sponsorship off football shirts is a start , it needs to continue into other forms of advertisement until the younger generation isn’t bombarded with it.
What really annoys me are the tv and radio adverts by betting companies that pretend they care ‘when the fun stops, stop’, like they really don’t want people addicted 🙄
 
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hertfordseasider said:
And 46% of people who gamble online on Casino sites have a gambling addiction, that's mad. I just don't understand it, I don't understand the mentality of it at all, yet I love going to the horse racing and used to go a lot in the 80's and 90's, did Cheltenham for 11 yeas on the bounce with my dad, uncle and cousin and a couple of Mayes, yet I would never gamble more than £30 in a day be it on one horse or on 6 that was my max, I love the spectacle, but cards, online machines I don't see it. I don't gamble at all now and haven't for years. My uncle lost his home because of gambling on the horses and my grandad was a terrible gambler. Addictions are terrible things be it gambling, drink, drugs once you get to that state you are fucked, the idea of banning advertising is to try and make it less in the limelight and stop young people from getting involved.
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I'll stick some bets on to get a bit more interest in sporting events. I'll always do a couple of golfers in the majors so I can cheer them on, or an acca on the weekend (especially if Pool aren't playing) but it's never been anything more than a bit of fun and I enjoy it, it's probably the only vice where I've shown a bit of constraint over the years!

It's terrible hearing stories like you mention, there's plenty of footballers who've fallen for it too. It clearly can be highly addictive so it should be treated like other addictions and we should be protecting people IMO.
 
As an ex-smoker, I can honestly say overpricing made me quit. Above the obvious health and social negatives. But there were alternatives that helped me quit.
Gambling is different, those that are afflicted are always chasing the big win. There is no alternative.
I dont think it should be advertised, because like alcohol or tobacco it shouldnt be encouraged and it shouldnt be exposed to kids who might ask 'daddy, whats LeoVegas'?
That said, the o/p poster, like many, are frustrated that more money isnt being spent generally. Maybe LVs offer was too good to turn down.
Its not like we are sportswashing Saudi blood money
 
Where do you draw the line - the stock market?

The stock market is the biggest casino in the world and BFC is owned by someone who goes in there daily.
 
tangerine.com said:
Why is he a wet wipe ?
He's pointing out a ruinous addiction.
But advertising doesn't make a whole lot of difference. If you are addicted you don't need much persuading.
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Something I find amusing/ridiculous, limit your gaming using our limiting tools. So an addict is going to limit himself to say 2k per month. When they've spent that 2k they are going to want to chase their losses so they will remove the limit (I know it can't be done straight away) The tool doesn't work if you don't wan it to. I know companies need to be seen to do something.

Like you say if you're an addict, you really don't need a nudge to gamble
 
Foolweary said:
Anyone who thinks gambling sponsorship isn't effective should ask why gambling firms are so keen to spend money on it.
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Both Herts and Foolworthy make great points.
Banning advertising helped reduced smoking and would help here too.
The gambling firms like to push their so called 'controls' to stop people betting more than they can afford, but by the time people realise they need to use these controls some are already hooked!
 
Foolweary said:
Anyone who thinks gambling sponsorship isn't effective should ask why gambling firms are so keen to spend money on it.
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As they say, not often you see a poor bookie.
Whilst I am happy placing the occasional online bet I don’t like to see it advertised on players shirts. No idea how much it influences young people towards gambling. At home I mute tv ads as I don’t like listening to tripe. Asides, it looks tacky on the players shirts. Much preferred the visit Blackpool or Get vocal logos.
 
I can honestly say I was never tempted to shop at Rebecca's Jewellers.
Nor for that matter, did I feel compelled to furnish my house with cut price carpets.
 
It’s not even as if you can win consistently.

The moment you shows signs of developing a consistent winning pattern, your account gets closed.

It’s an absolutely one way street.
 
It's called "reading the room" - there was already a groundswell of opinion that there is too much gambling advertising in football, and proposals to reduce it. The club signed up for a new sponsorship deal with a gambling business at a time when most are trying to move away from it. It just makes the club look ignorant and out of touch.
 
Never in a million years happen but I’d love every football shirt to have no sponsor, instead we’ll go the other way until they’re looking more like NASCAR vehicles and they’ll add as much sponsorship as they can. I understand why but it’s a wish
 
Marcusbeansontoast said:
Never in a million years happen but I’d love every football shirt to have no sponsor, instead we’ll go the other way until they’re looking more like NASCAR vehicles and they’ll add as much sponsorship as they can. I understand why but it’s a wish
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Agree would love to see shirts without sponsorship, having said that football shirt sponsorship is an interesting subject on its own. The first team to wear a sponsors name accross the front of the shirt were Hibs back in season 1977-78, as seen being worn by the great George Best

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The first English club were actually Kettering Town but the first pro club was of course Liverpool back in season 1979-80 as worn by King Kenny
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Our first one was in season 1980-81 modelled by the late great Alan Ball. Now that’s a classic
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1953+1 said:
If anything they should ban on line gambling. That I think is where the main danger lies. It's too easy to do and too easy to hide until it's too late.
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You don't have to be addicted to enjoy online gambling. I am a pensioner who does not want to go out in rain ,wind and snow . It is so easy to doa few horse racing bets and watch them on line then have to travel a mile and a half to lose a couple of quid.
 
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