Oxford and Brannagan

Chesterbfc said:
If it was a choice between Branagan. and Ellis Simms for a £ 1 million,I know where my money would. go
Connelly does a similar job and he is ours.
Sonny Carey. Willl be be back next season
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And Virtue will be available, unfortunately think Simms will stay at Everton and a big name striker will be sold. A Sunderland mate is raving over Broadhead who is on loan from Everton and likely to be sold.
 
basilrobbie3 said:
You hear this argument a lot, but it's a policy driven by people with more money than sense.

At some point in the real world you have to start factoring in the fact that clubs have finite resources, and in this Division ours are more finite than most. And whatever "value" you ascribe to him is also affected by who else we might be considering paying a fee for. The only people who know are in a position to weigh all of that are inside the club.

The time to judge our summer's business will be when all of it is done.
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Just landed back in the summer of 2010 when Jon Stead turned us down.
 
As we’ve tried to get Brannagan twice I think it’ll be 3rd time lucky.

That’s if we don’t get gazumped after stuttering the last two windows with bids that wouldn’t get accepted.

He’s different to all the other midfielders we have and quality costs.

The Bowler money needs to be invested wisely.

Less Beesley’s and Dale’s and more quality that goes into the first 11.
 
20togo said:
I'd imagine Longstaff is on way more pw than we could pay. Same with Swift perhaps too.
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Both out of contract this summer
Sean Longstaff will have seen his brother go from 20kgbp a week starlet to L2.
He is not getting game time and he needs it and this would be a signing to put bums on seats
Swift has had admirers for years but no Prem club have ever come in for him. He did not show at Bloomfield Rd so maybe the scouts will see him on an off day
 
tangysider said:
Both out of contract this summer
Sean Longstaff will have seen his brother go from 20kgbp a week starlet to L2.
He is not getting game time and he needs it and this would be a signing to put bums on seats
Swift has had admirers for years but no Prem club have ever come in for him. He did not show at Bloomfield Rd so maybe the scouts will see him on an off day
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didn't know they were both out of contract. Swift is a good goalscoring midfielder that's for sure. Think they'll both get plenty of offers so might still be out of our pay scale. Have to admit there's been alot of talk about Brannagan on here for months now and certainly since the turn of the year he's scored plenty of goals but other than that don't know too much about the style/type of player he is..
 
20togo said:
didn't know they were both out of contract. Swift is a good goalscoring midfielder that's for sure. Think they'll both get plenty of offers so might still be out of our pay scale. Have to admit there's been alot of talk about Brannagan on here for months now and certainly since the turn of the year he's scored plenty of goals but other than that don't know too much about the style/type of player he is..
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From what I’ve seen, he always wants the ball, takes risks on it and is forward thinking and has a good passing range. He’s also got that Scouser in him, which will give people shit and get stuck in for his size. Something we need at times.

He was great on the ball when they played us under Grayson at home early on, I think we won, but it was like the Alamo and he was pulling the strings. Didn’t really do much in the play-offs though.

Not sure about him in a 2 though. 🤔
 
Philbfctrois said:
Not really as Norburn is a completely different sort of midfield player to
Wizzerboy said:
Ain't speculation great. 🤣

Brannagan hasn't got a buy out clause.
I know Oxford people blah blah blah.
Brannagan is desperate to come to Blackpool.
We've more than enough money to buy Brannagan.

Do every other football club in the football league know that Cameron Brannagan is the only player that can be bought this transfer window.

I sincerely hope that BFC are not putting all their eggs in one basket with Brannagan. Oxford and Robinson in particular are acting like cocks and this has gone on for far too long.
Maybe the lad from Newcastle who played as a trialist is the answer.
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it’s not speculation though. Certainly not on my part
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Philbfctrois said:
So why haven't we bought him?

He's obviously been Critchley top target for a good while now and we haven't met the clause
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Oxford wanted to keep him for promotion push like Peterborough kept there lad for the relegation battle.
 
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TangerineMatt said:
He's the best player in league 1, have a day off suggesting he wouldn't be able to cut it at this level
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Why has he not already been gracing the pitches of championship pitches then?
Serious question BTW
He's 25 years old and only ever played for Fleetwood or Oxford.
If He's as good as everyone is banging on about why has there not been queues streaming from the Kasam stadium or whatever its called trying to get his signature.
Alls we'd be buying, yet again,is potential.

I sincerely hope I end up with egg on my face but for every Brannagan thread you'd have got a buy Ellis Simms thread 4 months ago to we must buy Charlie Adam at the beginning of the season.

I wonder who the flavour of the transfer window will be in the summer?
 
Wizzerboy said:
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Why has he not already been gracing the pitches of championship pitches then?
Serious question BTW
He's 25 years old and only ever played for Fleetwood or Oxford.
If He's as good as everyone is banging on about why has there not been queues streaming from the Kasam stadium or whatever its called trying to get his signature.
Alls we'd be buying, yet again,is potential.

I sincerely hope I end up with egg on my face but for every Brannagan thread you'd have got a buy Ellis Simms thread 4 months ago to we must buy Charlie Adam at the beginning of the season.

I wonder who the flavour of the transfer window will be in the summer?
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You’ve ended up with egg on your face from posting that nonsense tbh.
 
Adams Kebab said:
You’ve ended up with egg on your face from posting that nonsense tbh.
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Do you think?

No one has come back with an answer as to why he hasn't played in the Championship yet.
Best thing since sliced bread according to some.
If he's that good why hasn't someone taken a chance on him?

We will only be buying potential, yet again.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Do you think?

No one has come back with an answer as to why he hasn't played in the Championship yet.
Best thing since sliced bread according to some.
If he's that good why hasn't someone taken a chance on him?

We will only be buying potential, yet again.
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Yes I do. Maybe he’s peaking now. He’s been at Liverpool, dropped down, maybe he’s getting better. Radical concept but players can get better as they get older. Maybe teams in the Championship will be trying to get him now but haven’t previously as he’s been happy at Oxford and they’ve given him a platform to be better with a coach he’ll know from when he was at Lpool as a young player.

Because he’s only played in League 1 doesn’t mean he can’t play in the Championship. Our goal scorer today prime example of players who have players lower but get better and better and there’s hundreds more. It’s daft to dismiss it.

We are in the market where we have to sign potential. Signing a proven Championship midfielder would cost us millions & even then is no guarantee. We haven’t got those funds.

He’s one of the best midfielders in League 1, which should be a model to sign players, to improve and sell-on, I don’t think he’s better than sliced bread but he’s better than many of our current midfield & has an attacking intent that most of ours don’t.

It’s like your mad fans want us to sign him.

Have you got any other suggestions??
 
I think it will be interested to see how 3rd round of negotiations will go due to-

1. We've already been in twice, do the Oxford board tell us to fuck off at this point?

2. If we do enter into negotiations with Oxford, will they stick by the release clause, or let him go for cheaper (I'd think they'd accept lower than his release clause since he only has 1 year left, but who knows they're a stubborn lot)

3. Brannagan being on fire this second half of the season, he currently has 14 goals and 3 assist and is on track to have 20 overall goal involvements. We surely won't be the only club in for him, will we?

The last two negotiations with Oxford seemingly both happened in vacuums, where we were the only bidder involved, but he was getting interest from Blackburn, Burnley, and Leeds two summers ago so he is definitely on A LOT of teams radars, if one of them comes in we might have to be prepared to pay the full price of his release clause AND offer him the best terms.

Brannagan is 26, which is young, but not too young (he only really has two big moves left in his career), so he will be looking for the best move possible, and if a club from higher up the table who would realistically be in for him (someone like Blackburn, Bristol City) make him a good offer, we could ultimately lose out.

Ultimately, I think Brannagan is a "no brainer" signing for the club, he fits Critchley's mold of a hard-working presser, but has the attributes we desperately need in a new CM right now as he can link play between the Midfield and Forward lines very well while also chipping in with a few goals and assists.

Have a feeling this final installment of this transfer sage won't drag out as long, but will have just as much, if not more drama than the first two!
 
I've seen a lot of people suggest that he's not worth the trouble seeing as he is unproven in the Championship and might ultimately be too much trouble to sign, but I couldn't disagree more, if we can get him for the right price he would be an incredible signing.

Yes, he's unproven, but League 1 isn't a cake walk either.

To compare a similar player who recently made the jump from League 1 to the Championship I've gone with Matt Crooks, Middlesbrough's midfield talisman, who is also a player similarly molded like Brannagan (hard-working presser who can pop in with a few goals and assists) and the same age as Brannagan when he first made the move up to the Championship as well.

For Rotherham in League 1 (2019/2020)- 33 Played, 9 Goals, 2 Assists

For Rotherham in the Championship (2020/2021)- 40 played, 6 Goals, 3 Assists

For Middlesbrough in the Championship (2021/2022)- 38 Played, 8 Goals, 2 Assists

Now a similar look at Brannagan

For Oxford in League 1 (2019/2020)- 30 Played, 5 Goals, 7 Assists

For Oxford in League 1 (2020/2021)- 31 Played, 1 Goal, 2 Assists

For Oxford in League 1 (2021/2022)- 38 Played, 14 goals, 3 Assists

For ???? in the Championship (2022/2023)-

The point in comparing the players is to show that League 1 players make the step up and can become class Championship players all the time.

Even if he were to only be half as effective in the Championship in terms of goal involvements (let's say he came in and got 2 goals and 3 assists next year), he'd still be a more productive goal creator than every current CM we have at the club right now.

This is an easy decision and I hope we get him over the line early this Summer.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Yes I do. Maybe he’s peaking now. He’s been at Liverpool, dropped down, maybe he’s getting better. Radical concept but players can get better as they get older. Maybe teams in the Championship will be trying to get him now but haven’t previously as he’s been happy at Oxford and they’ve given him a platform to be better with a coach he’ll know from when he was at Lpool as a young player.

Because he’s only played in League 1 doesn’t mean he can’t play in the Championship. Our goal scorer today prime example of players who have players lower but get better and better and there’s hundreds more. It’s daft to dismiss it.

We are in the market where we have to sign potential. Signing a proven Championship midfielder would cost us millions & even then is no guarantee. We haven’t got those funds.

He’s one of the best midfielders in League 1, which should be a model to sign players, to improve and sell-on, I don’t think he’s better than sliced bread but he’s better than many of our current midfield & has an attacking intent that most of ours don’t.

It’s like your mad fans want us to sign him.

Have you got any other suggestions??
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I'm not mad at all that we want to sign him, what angers me is that when a target is highlighted its like, that's it, no one else can be targeted.
I'm also not saying that players cannot get better with age but having a look through the top 6 teams midfields there are only Luton with midfielders that are 30+
Fulham, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Sheffield Utd and Forest all have midfielders in their early 20's

I wish we had other options as then the players agents cannot hold us to ransome. Unfortunately when we do something untoward happens.

In an ideal world we'll have a great youngster who we don't have to spend a penny on coming through the ranks.

Until that happens I suppose I'm going to have to ignore all the Cameron Brannagan threads until the start of the season🤷🤣
 
Tango1953 said:
Why is a Boro fan obsessed with Blackpool?

Or are both just harmless posting on fan's forums?
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How I a today I can
Tango1953 said:
Why is a Boro fan obsessed with Blackpool?

Or are both just harmless posting on fan's forums?
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You are a total tool I post on here because its a good forum and I like Blackpool they are great club and I have watched them a good few times in the 80S when I worked in Morecambe so you and your muppet followers can f##k off
 
Wizzerboy said:
I'm not mad at all that we want to sign him, what angers me is that when a target is highlighted its like, that's it, no one else can be targeted.
I'm also not saying that players cannot get better with age but having a look through the top 6 teams midfields there are only Luton with midfielders that are 30+
Fulham, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Sheffield Utd and Forest all have midfielders in their early 20's

I wish we had other options as then the players agents cannot hold us to ransome. Unfortunately when we do something untoward happens.

In an ideal world we'll have a great youngster who we don't have to spend a penny on coming through the ranks.

Until that happens I suppose I'm going to have to ignore all the Cameron Brannagan threads until the start of the season🤷🤣
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According to Posh we had sorted a deal for Norburn, so we obviously have a few targets.

We do have Carey, but again he’s not proven.

Don’t want to be negative but you can’t compare us right now with Fulham, Bournemouth etc. Parachute payments and transfer kitties are worlds apart.

We are going to have to sell to invest and that takes time. When we do spend bigger than usual we just need to get the majority right.

I think the Beesley signing and the seemingly lack of progress into the team, could possibly work well as we’ll have to aim higher.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Do you think?

No one has come back with an answer as to why he hasn't played in the Championship yet.
Best thing since sliced bread according to some.
If he's that good why hasn't someone taken a chance on him?

We will only be buying potential, yet again.
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Normally agree with your posts but not on this occasion. Think there will be competition for his signature as the lad looks to be a class act. No coincidence that Oxford won on his return from injury - 1 goal and 2 assists I think.
 
Gazboro said:
How I a today I can
You are a total tool I post on here because its a good forum and I like Blackpool they are great club and I have watched them a good few times in the 80S when I worked in Morecambe so you and your muppet followers can f##k off
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So, harmless posting on a message board then?

Enjoy your hangover today.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
I've seen a lot of people suggest that he's not worth the trouble seeing as he is unproven in the Championship and might ultimately be too much trouble to sign, but I couldn't disagree more, if we can get him for the right price he would be an incredible signing.

Yes, he's unproven, but League 1 isn't a cake walk either.

To compare a similar player who recently made the jump from League 1 to the Championship I've gone with Matt Crooks, Middlesbrough's midfield talisman, who is also a player similarly molded like Brannagan (hard-working presser who can pop in with a few goals and assists) and the same age as Brannagan when he first made the move up to the Championship as well.

For Rotherham in League 1 (2019/2020)- 33 Played, 9 Goals, 2 Assists

For Rotherham in the Championship (2020/2021)- 40 played, 6 Goals, 3 Assists

For Middlesbrough in the Championship (2021/2022)- 38 Played, 8 Goals, 2 Assists

Now a similar look at Brannagan

For Oxford in League 1 (2019/2020)- 30 Played, 5 Goals, 7 Assists

For Oxford in League 1 (2020/2021)- 31 Played, 1 Goal, 2 Assists

For Oxford in League 1 (2021/2022)- 38 Played, 14 goals, 3 Assists

For ???? in the Championship (2022/2023)-

The point in comparing the players is to show that League 1 players make the step up and can become class Championship players all the time.

Even if he were to only be half as effective in the Championship in terms of goal involvements (let's say he came in and got 2 goals and 3 assists next year), he'd still be a more productive goal creator than every current CM we have at the club right now.

This is an easy decision and I hope we get him over the line early this Summer.
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He won’t sign for us, bigger clubs with bigger wages will come knocking. The ship has sailed and we missed the boarding.
 
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