Pie on Strikes

It's always handy to know when nurses are supposed to be appreciated and applauded or called lazy, workshy barstewards. Some of the greedy so and so's can afford holidays, how dare they?
 
Hard to argue with any of that. Well unless you’re a Tory grandee and have stashed your lock down earning away in that BVI account.
 
No! It's true, the union paymasters have Labour dancing to their tune whilst their barons..err...yes, their baron knights hold daggers to our throats with their unaffordable pay demands. We'd all like decent pay but those of us who are true patriots get on with the crumbs off our great leader's table without moaning or singing the Red Flag. Pah, you extremists make me sick! I'm off back to page 3. At least there's a decent pair of tits to look at.
 
He’s great, loads of other videos where he’s spot on too. Shame he’s not interested in politics from a job point of view, he’d tear most of them a new one in debates.
 
Yes. He would be well at home on the Labour back benches.

Only one way to resolve the nurses dispute. The Govt should ask the independent NHS pay review body to revisit its Feb 2022 recommendations to take account of inflation since then. Public sector pay rises should always be independently assessed.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
He’s great, loads of other videos where he’s spot on too. Shame he’s not interested in politics from a job point of view, he’d tear most of them a new one in debates.
Click to expand...
You can imagine that sooner or later one MP will stand up in this way and ignore the PR machine and the closed fist rubbish when gesticulating (point your bloody finger show you care!) and just get everyone whipped up.

We lack old school tub thumpers
 
tommytwojags said:
Yes. He would be well at home on the Labour back benches.

Only one way to resolve the nurses dispute. The Govt should ask the independent NHS pay review body to revisit its Feb 2022 recommendations to take account of inflation since then. Public sector pay rises should always be independently assessed.
Click to expand...
Agree with that last para. When ministers parrot that they have followed the review bod,. reporting when inflation was low and energy prices hadn't doubled, they make me very angry. My other suggestion is swapping the MP's review body for the nurses, that would work 😂
 
Tangerinemoss said:
Agree with that last para. When ministers parrot that they have followed the review bod,. reporting when inflation was low and energy prices hadn't doubled, they make me very angry. My other suggestion is swapping the MP's review body for the nurses, that would work 😂
Click to expand...
The thing that makes me laugh is the line 'well they got 3% last year' which has been repeated a lot by various ministers.
That 3% and another ~8% of what they had has been eaten by inflation and so they are now worse off than before last year's 'massive' pay-rise.
Nurses don't strike over nothing but the government seems to want to escalate things instead of getting everyone back to work. If they had sat at the table with the Nurses unions yesterday, no pre-conditions, the strike would have been called off. It seems that the government have no regard for the disruption that the strikes are causing, likewise with the rail workers which could have been resolved months ago.
What a shit-show
 
COVID let the parasites seriously feed on the panic. PPE, Track n Trace, Unchallenged contacts. They did really well from that period

Now they’ll be licking their lips waiting for vacuuming up distressed assets - the gap is basically just widening and widening. I don’t remember the 70s but this is where we seem to be heading. A period of broken economy and social unrest
 
Chunkylad said:
COVID let the parasites seriously feed on the panic. PPE, Track n Trace, Unchallenged contacts. They did really well from that period

Now they’ll be licking their lips waiting for vacuuming up distressed assets - the gap is basically just widening and widening. I don’t remember the 70s but this is where we seem to be heading. A period of broken economy and social unrest
Click to expand...
In the 70s we had nationalised state owned assets.
My feeling is that the NHS is being run into the ground in preparation for privatisation. Some parts of the service have been privatised already in a piecemeal way.
 
Social rest will happen eventually. People are waking up to the fact we’re getting the piss taken out of us by a minority and it’s only going to get worse.

We could learn a thing or two from the French, they know how to make their feelings known.
 
TheRealKingKenny said:
Social rest will happen eventually. People are waking up to the fact we’re getting the piss taken out of us by a minority and it’s only going to get worse.

We could learn a thing or two from the French, they know how to make their feelings known.
Click to expand...
I’ve said this for a while now, a French-styled revolution is long over due, turning over and burning cars etc and revolting is the only thing those taking the piss understand.
I’m sick of the robotic lines being wheeled out, just like in education, ‘We put in 4 billion extra last year etc’, when in real terms budgets have been slashed.
 
Last edited:
Wife just back from work at Victoria hospital no strikes today as not enough could be arsed to vote for it says it all really.
What a shambles solidarity behave.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
The thing that makes me laugh is the line 'well they got 3% last year' which has been repeated a lot by various ministers.
That 3% and another ~8% of what they had has been eaten by inflation and so they are now worse off than before last year's 'massive' pay-rise.
Nurses don't strike over nothing but the government seems to want to escalate things instead of getting everyone back to work. If they had sat at the table with the Nurses unions yesterday, no pre-conditions, the strike would have been called off. It seems that the government have no regard for the disruption that the strikes are causing, likewise with the rail workers which could have been resolved months ago.
What a shit-show
Click to expand...
They ignore that the rest of the public sector got nothing last year and 2% this year of course. Their own argument doesn't stack up. Just heard one of the lying bastards claiming private sector pay was lower than public sector pay. Surely they must know their own ONS stats say private sector rises thus year are three times the public sector?

As it is, the NHS will lose loads of staff who will then come back on agency rates, costing even more than the rise they've refused to sanction.
 
Wizaard said:
They ignore that the rest of the public sector got nothing last year and 2% this year of course. Their own argument doesn't stack up. Just heard one of the lying bastards claiming private sector pay was lower than public sector pay. Surely they must know their own ONS stats say private sector rises thus year are three times the public sector?

As it is, the NHS will lose loads of staff who will then come back on agency rates, costing even more than the rise they've refused to sanction.
Click to expand...
Your last paragraph:

Michelle Mone to hubby. “Darling I hear on the grapevine that all the clever money is moving into NHS supply agencies. I think we need to get on board asap. There’s plenty of taxpayers’ money that hasn’t been snaffled yet. Is it worth a quick email to Govey’s private email address. Could be another winner. Hugs and 😘 babes”.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
I’ve said this for a while now, a French-styled revolution is long over due, turning over and burning cars etc and revolting is the only thing those taking the piss understand.
I’m sick of the robotic lines being wheeled out, just like in education, ‘We put in 4 billion extra last year etc’, when in real terms budgets have been slashed.
Click to expand...
There's more money going into the NHS/Police/education/housing...than there's ever been. Oh do fuck off!
 
Is every worker in the country not affected by inflation..? Not having a go at nhs staff….Maybe we should all go on strike…🤣
 
Killingmesoftly said:
Is every worker in the country not affected by inflation..? Not having a go at nhs staff….Maybe we should all go on strike…🤣
Click to expand...
We’re all affected by inflation yes, but the purse strings have been tied for ages for these public service workers. It could have been resolved amicably, but this government choose to make a battle of it. I wonder how much all these disruptions have cost in relation to how much a settlement would cost. I’m working in the private sector personally & we got 5% plus a one off £1200 cost of living payment. Why can’t something similar be done for the public sector too.
 
Macseasider said:
Spot on

Click to expand...
Bang on the money- if Labour want to know how the confront the Tories faux patriotic populism- this would fo it

But like Trammo infers there are enough cap doffing ," we know our betters" ,Mail reading people on middle England to vote the Tories back in

Good video
 
Killingmesoftly said:
Because i’m self employed…I can’t just charge what I want, it’s what people are willing to pay….
In the building trade materials have gone up massively before you even factor in cost of living increases….
Click to expand...
Is there not more building work for you when people have more disposable income?
 
Killingmesoftly said:
Because i’m self employed…I can’t just charge what I want, it’s what people are willing to pay….
In the building trade materials have gone up massively before you even factor in cost of living increases….
Click to expand...
Still, at least you can fiddle your tax return and get money back that way. None of that PAYE nonsense.
 
Wizaard said:
Still, at least you can fiddle your tax return and get money back that way. None of that PAYE nonsense.
Click to expand...
Having worked in that field many years ago it was always amazing how many thousands of self employed trades people earn under £10k a year yet have detached houses with his and hers Mercs on the driveway. They must live very frugal lives.
 
Macseasider said:
Having worked in that field many years ago it was always amazing how many thousands of self employed trades people earn under £10k a year yet have detached houses with his and hers Mercs on the driveway. They must live very frugal lives.
Click to expand...
The howls of protest when they got limited or no subsidies through covid was amusing to taxpayers.
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
And how do you suggest he 'fiddles' his tax return without risking a huge fine? I'm self employed so I'm all ears.
Click to expand...
For starters, I don't have the option of a job paid in cash that the tax man doesn't need to know about.

You know the point I'm making. If you're suggesting that every single self employed person declares absolutely everything, and doesn't put a personal use drive in the car down as expenses, for example you're utterly deluded.
 
Wizaard said:
For starters, I don't have the option of a job paid in cash that the tax man doesn't need to know about.

You know the point I'm making. If you're suggesting that every single self employed person declares absolutely everything, and doesn't put a personal use drive in the car down as expenses, for example you're utterly deluded.
Click to expand...
Yes I get your point and of course not every self employed person declares absolutely everything.
I've no doubt about that.
You berate self employed people, many of whom have taken huge risks, suffered stress and hardship to build up businesses.
You seem to be of the opinion that it's easy to fiddle your tax return. Well I'm open to some advice on that. I'm all ears.
You constantly tell us on here about the paltry wage rises you've had to endure in the civil service over the years.
If it's that easy and cushy being self employed, why haven't you tried it yourself? Give yourself the option of a 'job paid in cash'.
 
Wizaard said:
For starters, I don't have the option of a job paid in cash that the tax man doesn't need to know about.

You know the point I'm making. If you're suggesting that every single self employed person declares absolutely everything, and doesn't put a personal use drive in the car down as expenses, for example you're utterly deluded.
Click to expand...
No one pays cash anymore tbh…yes once upon a time it went on..now everything is bank transfers etc..
Personally I do a fair bit of contracting , they take 20% off and pay to hmrc…
I’m sure fiddles go on, but it’s a bit of an old wives tale now, it’s like me saying every civil servant spends all day in the smoking room fiddling there flexi time…..😎🍺
 
Killingmesoftly said:
No one pays cash anymore tbh…yes once upon a time it went on..now everything is bank transfers etc..
Personally I do a fair bit of contracting , they take 20% off and pay to hmrc…
I’m sure fiddles go on, but it’s a bit of an old wives tale now, it’s like me saying every civil servant spends all day in the smoking room fiddling there flexi time…..😎🍺
Click to expand...
.......Or everyone in the civil service spends a chunk of their working day posting on AVFTT 😉
You're right about the cash. It's becoming a rarity. And there's only so much of it you can fit under your mattress.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Meanwhile...

www.bbc.co.uk

Avanti West Coast rewarded with £6.5m in bonuses

The train company received bonuses last year, but has been criticised for poor service this year.
www.bbc.co.uk
Click to expand...
It beggars belief Lytham. But are these bonuses built in to the contract when they take on the franchise? Surely there should be enough potential profit without these bonuses. Otherwise why are they bidding for the franchise in the first place? They're not doing it to make a loss.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top