Playing our wingers

JJpool

JJpool

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A lot of our best results have come when playing our wingers.

Against Burnley we had Bowler, Corbeanu and CJ later on.

CJ has played a big part in a lot of our better performances.

Watford game set up the 2nd goal.

Nobbers game heavily involved and scored.

Coventry involved again.

We are generally a better side with our wingers playing.

Lavery and Yates out wide has worked at times but completely failed at others.

Poveda and CJ made a big difference today.

Yes against tired legs is good for them to be even faster then the opposition, but we need that sort of threat from minute 1, it lessens the oppositions attacks too as they are scared of them both, CJ for pace and Poveda for skill.

Obviously of we play 2 wingers in a 433 we only have 1 striker on and is Madine enough for that?

442 seems the only way to get wingers on and play with enough goal scoring ability too.
 
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The interesting thing, for me, will be if Appleton now changes it for Boxing Day having seen the way we played the second half compared to the first. He can come out with all this bull about attitude etc but fundamentally if you don't give the players a fighting chance by playing the right available players and formation then you don't send them out giving them the best opportunity of victory.
 
442 certainly is our best formation, given the players available. We need 2 strikers , with 2 wingers that can get back to help defence.
Yates has done ok out wide but would prefer him down the middle with Madine , but Lavery has struggled out wide , not his fault, as his is an out & out striker , not a winger.
 
Have we dominated the ball in any game this season?

Pretty sure that was one of the plans of the system, was it not?
 
JJpool said:
A lot of our best results have come when playing our wingers.

Against Burnley we had Bowler, Corbeanu and CJ later on.

CJ has played a big part in a lot of our better performances.

Watford game set up the 2nd goal.

Nobbers game heavily involved and scored.

Coventry involved again.

We are generally a better side with our wingers playing.

Lavery and Yates out wide has worked at times but completely failed at others.

Poveda and CJ made a big difference today.

Yes against tired legs is good for them to be even faster then the opposition, but we need that sort of threat from minute 1, it lessens the oppositions attacks too as they are scared of them both, CJ for pace and Poveda for skill.

Obviously of we play 2 wingers in a 433 we only have 1 striker on and is Madine enough for that?

442 seems the only way to get wingers on and play with enough goal scoring ability too.
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Your O/P is spot on JJ.

After sitting through the Birmingham match, freezing my gonads off, it was obvious even to my untrained eye that these two made a difference when they were introduced, far too lately IMHO, and I was hoping that they would have been in the starting line up at Cardiff.

One of the runs that Poveda made, beating three or four players who were tightly marking him, before being fouled was very Mesinesc if there is such a word. It is what we need in the team, creativity and speed on the wings.
 
442......been saying it all season. Our best players do not fit a 433. Wake up Appleton or (preferably) move on.
 
Hamilton looked impressive yesterday. He had Cardiff on the back foot whenever he had the ball. Beesley also added the energy we needed up front and Poveda the cross. Played better the second half but one we might have lost had the 'penalty' been awarded or the goal machine sent fo an early bath.
 
We can play 4-3-3 but we need our wide players to actually give us an outlet and help build attacks.

The difference of Lavery to Poveda in the last two games is there for all to see.
 
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Hamilton looked impressive yesterday. He had Cardiff on the back foot whenever he had the ball. Beesley also added the energy we needed up front and Poveda the cross. Played better the second half but one we might have lost had the 'penalty' been awarded or the goal machine sent fo an early bath.
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Often we've seen him male constant wrong decisions, but he's looked threatening and just done the simple thing like put the ball in, simple pass, knock and run using his pace.

He'll still hit some wrong but you expect that from wingers, I'd rather have him as a threat feom time to time than no threat.
 
Adams Kebab said:
We can play 4-3-3 but we need our wide players to actually give us an outlet and help build attacks.

The difference of Lavery to Poveda in the last two games is there for all to see.
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We can but if we want both wingers on it means one striker, if its Madine he's too slow and isolated and doesn't score enough, Jerry can't hold it up well.

Maybe Bees is the man, but we still know little about him.
 
JJpool said:
A lot of our best results have come when playing our wingers.

Against Burnley we had Bowler, Corbeanu and CJ later on.

CJ has played a big part in a lot of our better performances.

Watford game set up the 2nd goal.

Nobbers game heavily involved and scored.

Coventry involved again.

We are generally a better side with our wingers playing.

Lavery and Yates out wide has worked at times but completely failed at others.

Poveda and CJ made a big difference today.

Yes against tired legs is good for them to be even faster then the opposition, but we need that sort of threat from minute 1, it lessens the oppositions attacks too as they are scared of them both, CJ for pace and Poveda for skill.

Obviously of we play 2 wingers in a 433 we only have 1 striker on and is Madine enough for that?

442 seems the only way to get wingers on and play with enough goal scoring ability too.
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Feel much the same, however I do wonder if MA feels SL and JY are more tenacious to cover our poor midfield.
CJ and Poveda are streets ahead in wing play but are they prepared to put a shift in?
For me our midfield, or rather complete lack of it, is where the real problems lie.
 
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Feel much the same, however I do wonder if MA feels SL and JY are more tenacious to cover our poor midfield.
CJ and Poveda are streets ahead in wing play but are they prepared to put a shift in?
For me our midfield, or rather complete lack of it, is where the real problems lie.
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Yeah Lavery is great for pressing, just isn't producing much on the wing.

Jerry has done well out wide at times. Other times seems wasted there.
 
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