Poll - Appleton to go, Yes or No ?

Is it time for Appleton to go now ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 140 33.4%

  • No

    Votes: 279 66.6%
  • Total voters
    419
tangysider said:
How could you reinvest the Bowler money when the window shut an hour or so after transfer was, confirmed?
Positives still outweigh negatives
Wright will be good
Lyons is up for young player of the year in Ireland.
Opportunity to revamp side in summer, a lot of players were brought in for a, L1 campaign and it shows
Youth doing well.
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If there was no time to reinvest it he probably shouldn't have gone and I say he should be sold for that price tbh.

We should have had targets lined up and demanded that if he is to go it must be by a time that leaves us suitable time to do our business.

If it was that obvious he'd be gone and that we were just playing hardball to bump the proce up, then we should have spent before that knowing he was going for at least 3m.

You cant lose your best player and not spend the cash, thats out model, they've said Jan isn't a time to spend, a it would have to be next summer, thats too long to wait to reinvest.

We had 6m with the critch money and should have been buying 3 or 4 real quality players for 1m+ that improved the squad in the spine of the team.
 
Pretty close 88/84 - you’ll probably not get the 84 on side and lose on Saturday and I’d say that could sway some of the 88!
 
With the break in the season some might think that it would be a good time to get a new manager in, but I just can't see us sacking him unless we are bottom of the table by a distance. This is a manager the board 'unanimously' agreed on despite many fans not wanting him. Not only that, they gave an out of work league one manager a 4 year contract. This seems to me a sign to the fans and everyone involved that they really believe in him. To sack him would be an admission that they were wrong. For Mansford, that could be akin to sacking himself.
 
Inexplicable why any club would give an out of work manager a 4 year deal. I thought he must have still been the manager of Lincoln.
Jesus - a one year deal to prove how good you are, with an incentivised better deal if you make a go of it, is surely obvious and acceptable to an ambitious manager. He was hardly Pep G.
What a complete negotiation fiasco.
 
Seaseaseasider said:
With the break in the season some might think that it would be a good time to get a new manager in, but I just can't see us sacking him unless we are bottom of the table by a distance. This is a manager the board 'unanimously' agreed on despite many fans not wanting him. Not only that, they gave an out of work league one manager a 4 year contract. This seems to me a sign to the fans and everyone involved that they really believe in him. To sack him would be an admission that they were wrong. For Mansford, that could be akin to sacking himself.
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He left Lincoln at the end of his contract after having two good seasons there in his time overall, and getting them to a play-off final. There wasn't a fall out and he wasn't sacked. He's well thought of in football circles and he's shown with us the style of football he wants us to play - he just hasn't had the personnel available, just as any new manager coming in would be the same.
 
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St_Annes_FY8 said:
We're renowned for looking for the "cheap" option and/or giving coaches their first taste of management. Rob Edwards would be the obvious choice but not necessarily cheap as a replacement. Why not approach Big Dunc who hopefully could motivate the current group; then again what do we currently pay first team coaches, is it competitive, probably not, hence why we end up stuck with the likes of Appleton.
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You’ve no idea what coaches get paid have you.

Where do you get “always looking for the cheap option” from? Koko?

It’ll get sorted in the next few weeks. MA is staying
 
Vince McLean said:
Inexplicable why any club would give an out of work manager a 4 year deal. I thought he must have still been the manager of Lincoln.
Jesus - a one year deal to prove how good you are, with an incentivised better deal if you make a go of it, is surely obvious and acceptable to an ambitious manager. He was hardly Pep G.
What a complete negotiation fiasco.
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You’ve no idea if there are clauses in the contract though do you.

Unless of course you have seen the contract. 🙄
 
Seasider3610 said:
You’ve no idea what coaches get paid have you.

Where do you get “always looking for the cheap option” from? Koko?

It’ll get sorted in the next few weeks. MA is staying
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Seasider3610 said:
You’ve no idea if there are clauses in the contract though do you.

Unless of course you have seen the contract. 🙄
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That's very true and I have no idea what's in the contract.
Do you know if there are any caveats or protective BFC clauses in there?
Re your other comment to St Annes ... just curious ... what exactly will get sorted in the next few weeks?
 
TheAppyBus said:
Critch got way more backing than Appleton. How many permanent new signings did critch get per season? Appy got 2 and inherited a squad that doesn't fit his mantra
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Perhaps the backing and loyalty that Critchley had from the board has made them more cautious.
 
tangerinespud said:
From the personal, selfish reason that I can’t abide the guy yes go now.

We need someone who the fans are 100% behind. With Appleton every win or draw just puts the baying mob on mute until the next lose.
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I'm afraid no manager with a less than average win ratio will avoid the baying mob for long. Add to that being forced to play Carey and Patino Saturday Tuesday week after week when they're barely out of their teens against seasoned midfield hard men is inadvisable to say the least. Reach for your pitchforks boys.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
Wait u til we see how he does once the squad is fully fit and MA a has an headache of who to choose for a matchday
I’ve felt sorry for MA tbh as he has absolutely had awful luck on all the injuries and now illness sweeping through the camp
The guys playing game in game out need the wc break to get rest and recovery and see how things are when most of the injured players back and a transfer window in January. I personally think we WILL be a championship team next season
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Literally a WC break in several cases.
 
I’m not a fan of the over sacking of managers for several reasons and especially when it is undeserved, and I personally wouldn’t do it now. If we do go down MA is likely as most other managers to do well in League One.
But if it happens the new man (or woman 🙄, would have a few weeks to get things organised and a transfer window to help out. Not sure who we would go for though and it certainly isn’t guaranteed to bail us out of trouble.
 
OK, I shouted "Appleton, f*** off" at him as I left early last night. I was fuming at the performance and the way we seem to be going backwards.

BUT....we are less than half way through the season and when we come back for part 2 (after the morality-washing festival in Qatar), we should have a full squad raring to go. That will be the true test of Appleton's abilities as a manager.
 
I didn't say any different? The facts are that he was a league one manager and out of work before joining us. He wasn't offered a new contract and in his last season at Lincoln they finished 17th. Do you think a four year deal was sensible?
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
He left Lincoln at the end of his contract after having two good seasons there in his time overall, and getting them to a play-off final. There wasn't a fall out and he wasn't sacked. He's well thought of in football circles and he's shown with us the style of football he wants us to play - he just hasn't had the personnel available, just as any new manager coming in would be the same.
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Yes. Get rid. Now, while there's time to get a new man in, assess the squad and make some changes in January.
Can't believe people are still saying wait until the squad is fit. When's that going to be? This month, next month, the New Year, quite probably never?
Yes the Board were culpable in the summer. But that's history. We're at where we're at now. The Board isn't picking the team or there to get it playing as well as possible. That's the managers job. And he's not able to do it.
 
I voted No, purely as I think he should be given time. I’d be more focussed on the transfer window in January to see who we bring in first.
 
No. I do have concerns that that not everything is going to plan in relation to the manager and players, i do though feel that Appleton will get it right. Besides he is going nowhere.
 
No. Far too soon. We aren't Watford.
He's not beyond criticism and I think he deserved some after last night, but equally our overall predicament isn't his fault. Give him time, and provide him the players he needs.
 
He get’s a free pass at the moment, but I’m far from convinced. We’ve put ourselves in a situation where we need to back him… ‘expansive / entertaining’ football comes at a price….

That said, he has an air of the Tony Parkes, Little Blackpool, Don’t expect too much mentality about him, which is a concern…
 
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People seem to want Mr Motivator on the touchline. He’s never gonna be that guy though.

Calling for his head now is just daft.

After the WC there’s 5 big games then the window opens. We’ll have a clear picture what we need by then, players and points wise.
 
JJpool said:
If there was no time to reinvest it he probably shouldn't have gone and I say he should be sold for that price tbh.

We should have had targets lined up and demanded that if he is to go it must be by a time that leaves us suitable time to do our business.

If it was that obvious he'd be gone and that we were just playing hardball to bump the proce up, then we should have spent before that knowing he was going for at least 3m.

You cant lose your best player and not spend the cash, thats out model, they've said Jan isn't a time to spend, a it would have to be next summer, thats too long to wait to reinvest.

We had 6m with the critch money and should have been buying 3 or 4 real quality players for 1m+ that improved the squad in the spine of the team.
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And what money would be left to pay the wages of theses 3 or 4 quality players? They won’t join Blackpool for peanuts!
For this reason I don’t expect wonders in the January window so don’t get your hopes up JJ
 
Twenty games in and in a league( and a difficult one at that) far above some of the so called European top leagues and we have dimwits ..yes dimwits….calling for the managers head.
I’ll judge him at least at the end of the season.
…oh and for those wanting him out just who do you think we can actually attract who will do a better job
 
CAGU said:
And what money would be left to pay the wages of theses 3 or 4 quality players? They won’t join Blackpool for peanuts!
For this reason I don’t expect wonders in the January window so don’t get your hopes up JJ
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We have a wage budget anyway, for any extra amount to secure these players I have said we got 6 million for NC and JB.

Spend 5m and use 1m towards wages added onto our wages already. That way we're not funding what we can't afford, as its funded through the sales.
 
JJpool said:
We have a wage budget anyway, for any extra amount to secure these players I have said we got 6 million for NC and JB.

Spend 5m and use 1m towards wages added onto our wages already. That way we're not funding what we can't afford, as its funded through the sales.
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Sounds good, be great if it works out that way.
Hopefully post World Cup we can recover our position with a fit squad and a few incomings of quality - loans or permanent after sending back some of our existing loan players
 
3 games ago when we beat the nobbers, he was the bloody messiah!

Appleton isn’t the problem, it’s not his team, the recruitment has been shite, we’ve not landed players and our loanees (most) are crap! Best player sold
give the guy some time to build his squad and cut him some slack….. aim your frustrations at the board and that Judas fraud who buggered off because the grass was greener! Yeah, that worked out well didn’t it!
 
Been having a think all day as it just felt really desperate last night, and it was sort of expected, like an accumulation.

For me it's a No and a hope we're in a moment we come out the other side of for the better.

Ultimately whatever happens though it's all on the owner and board for their choices, and to back those choices properly. Because of past actions I've little confidence in them having anyone lined up ready to go if they do decide to make a change, as they could just make a shit situation even shitter.

However, what you can't ignore is the players. And I'm sure they will let us know if it's a Yes from their POV in due course. For which last night might well have been a pointer. And this weekend could also tell it's own story.

If they're being pushed too far in training and it's contributing towards extra injuries. If the prep isn't right. If the tactics and plans are lacking. And if they're not enjoying it and feeling a bit lost then they will normally get their message across a lot louder than anyone else, so we shall see. You can usually see it through individual mistakes, red cards, lack of discipline, folding easily in games, making themselves unavailable to play, conceding loads of goals and so on.
 
You simply cannot sack a manager that has never been backed to sign the players he wants. That would be ridiculous.

Not sure it will work out with Appleton granted but for him not to be given the remit to bring in new faces in January and get some injured players back would be deeply unfair.
 
If we want to avoid relegation he needs to go now.

It is not a case of giving him time. He is a poor manager with no clue as evidenced by the continual selection of Maxwell over Grimshaw
 
The next 6 matches are all winnable Wigan away Birmingham home Cardiff away Hull away Sheff Utd home Sunderland home . Thé away games are games we should be picking up points . Home ones a bit tougher but if we are on song should be looking at 2 wins
 
poolfc said:
Been having a think all day as it just felt really desperate last night, and it was sort of expected, like an accumulation.

For me it's a No and a hope we're in a moment we come out the other side of for the better.

Ultimately whatever happens though it's all on the owner and board for their choices, and to back those choices properly. Because of past actions I've little confidence in them having anyone lined up ready to go if they do decide to make a change, as they could just make a shit situation even shitter.

However, what you can't ignore is the players. And I'm sure they will let us know if it's a Yes from their POV in due course. For which last night might well have been a pointer. And this weekend could also tell it's own story.

If they're being pushed too far in training and it's contributing towards extra injuries. If the prep isn't right. If the tactics and plans are lacking. And if they're not enjoying it and feeling a bit lost then they will normally get their message across a lot louder than anyone else, so we shall see. You can usually see it through individual mistakes, red cards, lack of discipline, folding easily in games, making themselves unavailable to play, conceding loads of goals and so on.
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Yes or no was the question
 
No he is more than capable of turning this situation around. If he can attract a couple of Championship players in the next window ie
Centre Half and the mobile striker we all want, get Bridcutt fit things will change.
 
UTMPOOL said:
The next 6 matches are all winnable Wigan away Birmingham home Cardiff away Hull away Sheff Utd home Sunderland home . Thé away games are games we should be picking up points . Home ones a bit tougher but if we are on song should be looking at 2 wins
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We seem to do better against the better teams. It's the games we need to win that we seem to struggle in
 
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