Prince Harry

No previous member of the military, especially a ranking officer would be bragging about the amount of Kills they have. Its nauseating watching this whole charade play out. Some of his old unit are calling out press pictures which had been staged to make him look like the hero.. he is not coming out of this very well at all.
 
Markobfc said:
No previous member of the military, especially a ranking officer would be bragging about the amount of Kills they have.
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especially not the videos of soldiers murdering innocent civilians

as for Harry, he said that he was ‘neither proud, nor ashamed’.

How you interpret that as bragging, only you know
 
Recidivist3 said:
especially not the videos of soldiers murdering innocent civilians

as for Harry, he said that he was ‘neither proud, nor ashamed’.

How you interpret that as bragging, only you know
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But he still put a number on how many he killed from a mile away in his Apache. He says he wants privacy and security and comes out with crap like that. He has put himself and his family in danger.
As for Soldiers murdering innocent civilians, are you referring to Phil Shinner and his exploitation of our own judicial system where he milked it prior to being struck off for lying? Or referring to Ireland? More than happy to have a debate about that.
 
Paradiddle_01 said:
Apart from the obvious naivety of 'admitting' 25 confirmed kills, (as others have stated already, it just makes his family a target..), I don't know of ANY ex-military who will happily discuss their kill total!
If anything they remain tight lipped and keep those memories locked away.
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I spent a lot of my working life with RAF pilots and navigators who served in a number of military conflicts and never once did they talk about their personal experiences, equally you never asked them questions either. It’s a redline that isn’t crossed knowing that the end result is loss of life sometimes in large numbers!
 
Alf said:
They're all wankers - the question is whether he's telling the truth, and if he is, which he is, then it matters not whether he's a wanker. What matters is he's shining a light on the inbred, imported, immoral institution that is the royals. Yes, he is as inbred and immoral as the rest of them and definitely blinkered and hypocritical. Very naive to think anybody will have sympathy for him. But hopefully it's the beginning of the end for this failed reality TV experiment we call the Windsors. Patriotism can be nice if it serves the country's and individuals' interests. Working classes blindly diving in front of every bullet aimed at the royal family is, frankly, ** embarrassing. They don't give a shit about you. They would throw you in front of a train to save a corgi.
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You really are one helluva screwed up bitter individual. Enjoy your bitterness and sad life that you have because of it.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Is this not O/T?

He seems alright to me and I can Understand why the pair of them are keen for people to know the truth.

As ever though, lots of people prefer a comfortable lie, than any uncomfortable truth.
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or a case of those vehemently opposed to the Royal Family loving that they can stick the knife in! Pretty obvious really as proven by those posterswho give the thumbs up and are first in whenever the subject of the RF crops up.
 
20togo said:
or a case of those vehemently opposed to the Royal Family loving that they can stick the knife in! Pretty obvious really as proven by those posterswho give the thumbs up and are first in whenever the subject of the RF crops up.
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Best check the OP and it's tone hadn't you?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
In fairness it was William and his ‘press team’ who broke the first rule of being a family member and (in doing so) shat all over his brother and a long established bond and trust.

Harry is simply setting the record straight … And who can blame him
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Whilst also making a chunk of money to boot from it.

Edit to add - my penneth's worth is that yes, the machine around the Royal family is huge and complex, and most of them choose to happily live within it. I do think he's bitter about what happened with his mother, step-mother etc and I think he's got a few good points about how things operate.
However, what he's done sounds like a petulant child (The bit about his brother getting physical. seriously, pathetic) and comes across as poorly thought out to the effects it will have (The bit about killing 25 Taliban)

I think Harry has left one manipulative institute for another, that being the American soap opera press and his more intelligent wife, who are both manipulating him now to their own ends.

I fairly sure too that one day we'll be reading about their divorce proceedings, and her hanging him out to dry.
 
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Spizz Tony said:
The Establishment will see them both off…like they did Princess Diana.
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I think being in the back seat of a speeding car with a drunk untrained driver is kinda playing roulette. Sadly, it crashed at high speed.

Unless, you actually believe in a conspiracy theory, there's not much more to it than that. She rejected the support of the British Police, because Martin Bashir poisoned her into believing that they were leaking stuff.
 
Macseasider said:
Totally agree. And it seems to be white middle aged men that are the most angry about all this.

People really need to learn to not give a shit a little bit more.
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You mean in a country that is about 88% white people, with about half being men, and more than half being middle aged and above?

It's just law of averages that's all.

I don't see a huge amount of anger either, just lots of hilarity at the idea a fully trained soldier, who happily killed 25 Taliban, got so upset that his brother had a pop and broke his necklace. No-one is buying it that's all.

Apart from those who want to use it as another stick to have a go at 'the establishment'
 
Harry keeps going on about about his 'fight' with William.
How many of you on here have brothers within 4/5 years of your age? I have. (had)
Did you ever fight/disagree when you were younger?
If so, did you run to the newspapers with it?
I see Harry as a complete fraud, being led by his nose (or dick) by his Mrs.
Just tell him to Effoff back to America where they love this crap.
I still say he should have a DNA test to prove that he really is a member of the Royal Family.
 
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The thing with Harry is, we all liked him because he came across as being a bit of a daft rebel, down to Earth etc. With wearing a Nazi costume, drinking etc you could see him being a young lad trying to have a normal life. Serving his country, you could respect him, along with his involvement with the Invictus games. For me, he's undone a lot of that by writing about it and putting his (or ghost writer's) stupid slant on him being the victim (Even admitting coke and weed use was made to sound like it was out of some angst ridden reason, rather than a young lad trying things and being relatively normal).
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Whilst also making a chunk of money to boot from it.

Edit to add - my penneth's worth is that yes, the machine around the Royal family is huge and complex, and most of them choose to happily live within it. I do think he's bitter about what happened with his mother, step-mother etc and I think he's got a few good points about how things operate.
However, what he's done sounds like a petulant child (The bit about his brother getting physical. seriously, pathetic) and comes across as poorly thought out to the effects it will have (The bit about killing 25 Taliban)

I think Harry has left one manipulative institute for another, that being the American soap opera press and his more intelligent wife, who are both manipulating him now to their own ends.

I fairly sure too that one day we'll be reading about their divorce proceedings, and her hanging him out to dry.
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Can I ask you a couple of questions because I am genuinely interested in how people are forming their opinions.

How do you think she is manipulating him? What makes you think they'll get divorced and she'll hang him out to dry?
 
TSSeasider said:
He might not need it; but when you've essentially come from limitless wealth, you can never have enough.

He's also seeing the bills for the first time (I'd have thought).
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There is also greed and want want want.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Whilst also making a chunk of money to boot from it.

Edit to add - my penneth's worth is that yes, the machine around the Royal family is huge and complex, and most of them choose to happily live within it. I do think he's bitter about what happened with his mother, step-mother etc and I think he's got a few good points about how things operate.
However, what he's done sounds like a petulant child (The bit about his brother getting physical. seriously, pathetic) and comes across as poorly thought out to the effects it will have (The bit about killing 25 Taliban)

I think Harry has left one manipulative institute for another, that being the American soap opera press and his more intelligent wife, who are both manipulating him now to their own ends.

I fairly sure too that one day we'll be reading about their divorce proceedings, and her hanging him out to dry.
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Your last para is spot on in my opinion, and he won’t know what has hit him.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
The thing with Harry is, we all liked him because he came across as being a bit of a daft rebel, down to Earth etc. With wearing a Nazi costume, drinking etc you could see him being a young lad trying to have a normal life. Serving his country, you could respect him, along with his involvement with the Invictus games. For me, he's undone a lot of that by writing about it and putting his (or ghost writer's) stupid slant on him being the victim (Even admitting coke and weed use was made to sound like it was out of some angst ridden reason, rather than a young lad trying things and being relatively normal).
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Apparantly the Nazi costume is William and Kate’s fault now 🤷‍♀️

Have this pair of idiots taken responsibility for one single thing ? Nope.
 
I've just had a look on the BBC website; when he's got a 'medium' telling him they are in touch with his mum, bless him, he's lost.

Also doing the same journey as his mothers last one; but not at the same speed or with a drunk driver means he doubts the official version of how she died.

I think, we can just file it under unresolved grief.

He's not got over the death of his mother, and his brother must be thinking along the lines of what @BFC_BFC_BFC wrote yesterday,

"If you are too emotionally attached to an idealised version of reality to be able to handle the truth without taking offence, that’s your issue to address… not mine👍"
 
TSSeasider said:
I think being in the back seat of a speeding car with a drunk untrained driver is kinda playing roulette. Sadly, it crashed at high speed.

Unless, you actually believe in a conspiracy theory, there's not much more to it than that. She rejected the support of the British Police, because Martin Bashir poisoned her into believing that they were leaking stuff.
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So she knew the driver was drunk and was going to speed?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
So she knew the driver was drunk and was going to speed?
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She knew he wasn't close protection because she'd chosen not to use them.

She chose not to use them because Bashir had forged a whole load of documentation to make her think they were briefing against her.

Harry's anger should be at the BBC journalist. Not his brother, not his father, not his father's mistress. Bashir started the process which came together in that horrible accident.
 
20togo said:
or a case of those vehemently opposed to the Royal Family loving that they can stick the knife in! Pretty obvious really as proven by those posterswho give the thumbs up and are first in whenever the subject of the RF crops up.
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You’ve addressed this to me?

I’m not vehemently opposed to the Royal Family.

I just think it’s important to focus the attention of fact vs fiction.

The evidence is there for anyone with eyes to see and whilst I appreciate sone of the truths are inconvenient and that folk are uncomfortable with how H&M have gone about this, there’s no doubt that the Royal Household in conjunction with the British Press have behaved disgracefully.

It’s 2022 and I think it’s time we / they managed to get with the programme. They behave like sone kind of Mexican drug cartel.
 
TSSeasider said:
She knew he wasn't close protection because she'd chosen not to use them.

She chose not to use them because Bashir had forged a whole load of documentation to make her think they were briefing against her.

Harry's anger should be at the BBC journalist. Not his brother, not his father, not his father's mistress. Bashir started the process which came together in that horrible accident.
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Bollocks.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You’ve addressed this to me?

I’m not vehemently opposed to the Royal Family.

I just think it’s important to focus the attention of fact vs fiction.

The evidence is there for anyone with eyes to see and whilst I appreciate sone of the truths are inconvenient and that folk are uncomfortable with how H&M have gone about this, there’s no doubt that the Royal Household in conjunction with the British Press have behaved disgracefully.

It’s 2022 and I think it’s time we / they managed to get with the programme. They behave like sone kind of Mexican drug cartel.
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no, the point I was making wasn't about you at all.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Whilst also making a chunk of money to boot from it.

Edit to add - my penneth's worth is that yes, the machine around the Royal family is huge and complex, and most of them choose to happily live within it. I do think he's bitter about what happened with his mother, step-mother etc and I think he's got a few good points about how things operate.
However, what he's done sounds like a petulant child (The bit about his brother getting physical. seriously, pathetic) and comes across as poorly thought out to the effects it will have (The bit about killing 25 Taliban)

I think Harry has left one manipulative institute for another, that being the American soap opera press and his more intelligent wife, who are both manipulating him now to their own ends.

I fairly sure too that one day we'll be reading about their divorce proceedings, and her hanging him out to dry.
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Making money isn’t a crime and (if it were), then The Royal Family would hardly be pinnacles of virtue !!

Harry is clearly sick of the bullshit and whether that’s borne out of bitterness, a sense of injustice, protecting his family, the need to drive positive change or a combination of those and more, I’m not sure it really matters.

Fact is that the institution and the media (British Press) have clearly crossed a line and on this occasion, the recipients aren’t lying down .

It’s gripping stuff.. 👍
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Making money isn’t a crime and (if it were), then The Royal Family would hardly be pinnacles of virtue !!

Harry is clearly sick of the bullshit and whether that’s borne out of bitterness, a sense of injustice, protecting his family, the need to drive positive change or a combination of those and more, I’m not sure it really matters.

Fact is that the institution and the media (British Press) have clearly crossed a line and on this occasion, the recipients aren’t lying down .

It’s gripping stuff.. 👍
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It can’t be protecting his family because if that was the case what fool would brag about killing 20+ Taliban soldiers as though they were chess pieces. He’s endangered his family revealing this little nugget.

Harry is a compete and utter idiot.
Moaning like a spoilt brat and being egged on by his narcissistic wife.
 
Lala said:
It can’t be protecting his family because if that was the case what fool would brag about killing 20+ Taliban soldiers as though they were chess pieces. He’s endangered his family with this little nugget.

Harry is a compete and utter idiot.
Moaning like a spoilt brat and being egged on by his narcissistic wife.
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And they now know that if they grab his collar, he’ll fall over
 
Lala said:
Apparantly the Nazi costume is William and Kate’s fault now 🤷‍♀️

Have this pair of idiots taken responsibility for one single thing ? Nope.
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It might not be correct to state that William & Kate (simultaneously?) suggested the Nazi uniform - "Some recollections may vary"
It might be true.
It might have been said, but meant as a (sick) joke.

Whatever, Harry was 21 at the time. An adult, fully capable of rejecting any offensive / jocular suggestion made to him.
It was his decision to wear it.
 
Lala said:
It can’t be protecting his family because if that was the case what fool would brag about killing 20+ Taliban soldiers as though they were chess pieces. He’s endangered his family revealing this little nugget.

Harry is a compete and utter idiot.
Moaning like a spoilt brat and being egged on by his narcissistic wife.
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I’m not sure the two things are mutually exclusive… That’s just typical press spin (and we’ve seen how biased that can be on this thread)…

“Brave Will single handedly takes out wicked Taliban insurgents” no doubt if the roles were reversed😂

In addition I’m talking about protecting his family from the specific threat posed by his brother and father (briefing lies designed ti undermine and hurt his wife) as well as the British Press…

The ‘Taliban’ and terrorists pose no more of a threat today than they ever have … Complete ref herring to divert attention from the truth and the real protagonists.

Harry might not be the sharpest tool in the box, but to be fair he comes from a long line of idiots and weirdos, so it’s hardly surprising…. No wonder they are generally advised to keep their gob’s shut😂

Personally, I’m loving the whole show and the associated reaction …. Love him or hate him… He’s great entertainment 👍
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Fair enough 👍

It was just with you quoting me !!
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My point was solely to do with the same usual suspects piling in at every opportunity to stick the knife into the monarchy. Doesn't matter whether it's an uncomfortable truth or comfortable lie or comfortable truth and an uncomfortable lie, anti monarchists on here love to stick the boot in.
 
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Toastrack said:
It might not be correct to state that William & Kate (simultaneously?) suggested the Nazi uniform - "Some recollections may vary"
It might be true.
It might have been said, but meant as a (sick) joke.

Whatever, Harry was 21 at the time. An adult, fully capable of rejecting any offensive / jocular suggestion made to him.
It was his decision to wear
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Toastrack said:
It might not be correct to state that William & Kate (simultaneously?) suggested the Nazi uniform - "Some recollections may vary"
It might be true.
It might have been said, but meant as a (sick) joke.

Whatever, Harry was 21 at the time. An adult, fully capable of rejecting any offensive / jocular suggestion made to him.
It was his decision to wear it.
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He wanted to wear it. He hates Jews and their mazel tov jollity
 
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