Protestor intrusion on Keir Starmer

Phil_bfc deux

Phil_bfc deux

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Looks a bit in shock as he's spent the last 5 minutes slagging the conservatives instead of telling the conference what he will do

Can anyone really seriously vote for this wet lettuce?

Quite ironic having the union flag in the background as well given how anti British most of his cabinet are

Keeps getting standing ovations from the nodding dogs in the audience as well

This won't go down well calling Hamas terrorists though

Interesting stuff
 
Its actually interesting seeing how this pans out now he obviously wants to go more centre left

Not sure the party is United in that approach
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Looks a bit in shock as he's spent the last 5 minutes slagging the conservatives instead of telling the conference what he will do

Can anyone really seriously vote for this wet lettuce?

Quite ironic having the union flag in the background as well given how anti British most of his cabinet are

Keeps getting standing ovations from the nodding dogs in the audience as well

This won't go down well calling Hamas terrorists though

Interesting stuff
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It's a party conference, fuck do you want him and his audience to do?

Tiny Rishi was the same last week.
 
I can't see Abbott, McDonnell, Lewis, Burgon, Whittome, Sultana etc being happy about his Israel comments

Fair play to him for standing with Israel mind
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It's a party conference, fuck do you want him and his audience to do?

Tiny Rishi was the same last week.
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I would like to hear what Labour would do instead of banging on about what the conservatives haven't done

He's still banging on about illegal parties during covid

Ffs ... if he had his way the lockdown would have been extended by a year or so
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I would like to hear what Labour would do instead of banging on about what the conservatives haven't done

He's still banging on about illegal parties during covid

Ffs ... if he had his way the lockdown would have been extended by a year or so
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Phil_bfc deux said:
I would like to hear what Labour would do instead of banging on about what the conservatives haven't done

He's still banging on about illegal parties during covid

Ffs ... if he had his way the lockdown would have been extended by a year or so
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He's in opposition, it's the job of the opposition to take the government to task.

I'm not voting for him mind.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
He's in opposition, it's the job of the opposition to take the government to task.

I'm not voting for him mind.
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Would you tactical vote? I think it will be big, unless a massive Labour majority just looks inevitable and nobody feels the need to bother
 
foggy said:
As I said, I will take that bet.
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I won't be backing on politics but I'm telling you this war on motorists won't win many votes for Labour

London is an absolute nightmare to drive around then we have these 20 zones, low emission, city tolls and congestion charges around the UK under various labour councils

I think the Uxbridge result proves that with the recent Ulez policy
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I won't be backing on politics but I'm telling you this war on motorists won't win many votes for Labour

London is an absolute nightmare to drive around then we have these 20 zones, low emission, city tolls and congestion charges

I think the Uxbridge result proves that with the recent Ulez policy
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We don't give a flying fu... fig about London only the Pool supporters who live there.
 
bill40 said:
A perfectly decent protest with a very reasonable point to make good on him. A perfectly reasonable response from Starmer who may not be a robot after all although I'm still undecided on that one. As to voting I shall be very grown up about it and draw a willy on my ballot paper.
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What did the protestor say as I switched on just as he was being removed
 
foggy said:
Would you tactical vote? I think it will be big, unless a massive Labour majority just looks inevitable and nobody feels the need to bother
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Good point, I should in Blackpool South but I haven't ever done before, didn't vote for Blair except in 97 but Marsden was always going to win regardless.

I'll probably vote Green, I know it's a waste but it's that mindset that leads to this pointless two party system.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I won't be backing on politics but I'm telling you this war on motorists won't win many votes for Labour

London is an absolute nightmare to drive around then we have these 20 zones, low emission, city tolls and congestion charges

I think the Uxbridge result proves that with the recent Ulez policy
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What's funny is the Tories vote share declined by 7% in that election and Labour's increased by 6%. This was in an outer London Tory safe seat where ULEZ was most hot, slap bang in the middle of the debate about it as opposed to say, central London where it is popular, and most people have got used to it over time. If you replicated that swing across the entire country Labour would only be 11 seat short of a majority. And that's replicating the Conservatives best performing seat. This bodes fantastically well for Labour. Because most places aren't Uxbridge. They will be quite a few like Selby and Rutherglen where their vote share went up 21% and 23% respectively.
 
foggy said:
What's funny is the Tories vote share declined by 7% in that election and Labour's increased by 6%. This was in an outer London Tory safe seat where ULEZ was most hot, slap bang in the middle of the debate about it as opposed to say, central London where it is popular, and most people have got used to it over time. If you replicated that swing across the entire country Labour would only be 11 seat short of a majority. And that's replicating the Conservatives best performing seat. This bodes fantastically well for Labour.
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Uxbridge was a devastating result for Labour, if they couldn't win that then it really doesn't bode well

Let's be honest Labour thought they were going to win it and campaigned hard on it

Where are all these new towns going to go btw?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Uxbridge was a devastating result for Labour, if they couldn't win that then it really doesn't bode well

Let's be honest Labour thought they were going to win it and campaigned hard on it

Where are all these new towns going to go btw?
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No...it really wasn't. They turned a 13% deficit into a 2% deficit despite a very local issue causing them trouble being right in the middle of the debate at the worst possible time, and many of their voters at the big local university weren't there as it wasn't term time. If they are only losing by 2% in those circumstances they are in a great position. Hence their massive success in other by-elections. The Tories misunderstanding Uxbridge and thinking they can replicate it will backfire, although I probably agree they have little other option. It shows a bias that the media obsessed over that one election, and not Selby and Ainsty, where Labour improved their vote share by 21% however. Or in Scotland this weekend, where they destroyed the SNP and now look potentially on their way to being the biggest party in Scotland again.

In any case, if you don't think Labour will win a majority I suggest you put some money on at the bookies. You will get great odds
 
foggy said:
No...it really wasn't. They turned a 13% deficit into a 2% deficit despite a very local issue causing them trouble being right in the middle of the debate at the worst possible time, and many of their voters at the big local university weren't there as it wasn't term time. If they are only losing by 2% in those circumstances they are in a great position. Hence their massive success in other by-elections. The Tories misunderstanding Uxbridge and thinking they can replicate it will backfire, although I probably agree they have little other option. It shows a bias that the media obsessed over that one election, and not Selby and Ainsty, where Labour improved their vote share by 21% however. Or in Scotland this weekend, where they destroyed the SNP and now look potentially on their way to being the biggest party in Scotland again.

In any case, if you don't think Labour will win a majority I suggest you put some money on at the bookies. You will get great odds
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I actually think Labour will win but not by as much as people think

And to be honest I dont trust the conservatives to really focus on key issues to win votes

If I was Sunak i would go all out to get the motorists on side

That's 40 million plus voters

I know you don't drive but it's a massive issue

Where are these new towns going to go btw?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I actually think Labour will win but not by as much as people think

And to be honest I dont trust the conservatives to really focus on key issues to win votes

If I was Sunak i would go all out to get the motorists on side

That's 40 million plus voters

I know you don't drive but it's a massive issue

Where are these new towns going to go btw?
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Everyone I know drives but no one will vote Tory.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I actually think Labour will win but not by as much as people think

And to be honest I dont trust the conservatives to really focus on key issues to win votes

If I was Sunak i would go all out to get the motorists on side

That's 40 million plus voters

I know you don't drive but it's a massive issue

Where are these new towns going to go btw?
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I think the range of their majority is very variable, it could be less than people think yeah, or it could go the other way of course, it could be 200 seats plus. The Tories are on 26% I believe on average right now in the polls. It only takes a little slip for them to fall to the low 20s and then they are in 2010 Lib Dem territory, on double digit seats. If the mood changes it's impossible to predict which way it will change.

The problem with '40 million motorists' as a strategy is they aren't a voting block. Lots of them take public transport too. Or cycle. Or walk. Lots support the move to electric cars. Lots support lowering speed limits. In fact, a plurality of Welsh voters actually support the measures recently taken. Some will vote Tory of course, and be against these policies. They might be a bit more energised than they were previously. Others will be against them, but won't care enough. They will prioritise the economy, the NHS, housing, environment, all the other policeis that people consistently rank as the most important. Not if a few local councils impose 20 mile per hour speeding zones. It's just not as important as, say, the cost of people's mortgages going up, which most attribute at least partially to the Tories.
 
To all those contributors to this post who are making negative comments about the Labour Party, come back after the forthcoming election, when we have won a landslide and the Tories are destined to spend a generation in the wilderness where they belong!
 
EPM46 said:
To all those contributors to this post who are making negative comments about the Labour Party, come back after the forthcoming election, when we have won a landslide and the Tories are destined to spend a generation in the wilderness where they belong!
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We , Are you a labour party member?

Just seen a tweet by Corbyn btw not a happy bunny by the sounds of it

The cracks are appearing
 
foggy said:
I know some people think this is a rude question, feel free to ignore, but may I ask when was the last time you voted Labour, if ever?
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I've voted Labour previously both nationally and locally

I haven't voted for them since the Blair times though

I may vote for them again I may not, living in Wales isn't great under the Welsh government though

Covid in Wales was a right shit show and far worse than it was in England

I couldn't work in Wales even though I live in Wales but could work in England?

The NHS under the Labour Welsh government is horrendous as is road building and the house building record
 
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Lost Seasider said:
London isn't one big, homogenous, constituency.
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It isn't but it is heavily Labour supporting and the latest poll of London voting intention for Westminster had Labour on 47% and Tories on 27%. This was last month. Most forecasts have the Tories with scant few seats in the capital.
 
Forever Blackpool said:
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Lol. Nah.
 
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