Reasons you want Critch to stay

BFC76

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So, there does seem to be (and it is becoming a minority) a group who seem quite content with Critchley and where we're at and where we are going. Out of interest, why do they think this will succeed long term? Just asking for a friend!
 
It’s hard to defend Critch right now.

The only reason I can think of, of why he should stay is that sacking managers rarely works. Most of the teams doing well in the leagues stick with their manager for longer than 2 seasons. With that in mind you want to give the new recruitment team and the manager that extra 2 windows to make it work.

Pretty tough to say that after those away games I’ve suffered.
 
He has no one questioning him, his 2 lapdogs will continue to tell him black is white and his system would work if only the players did as instructed.
Getting rid of them(cheap option) and appointing someone such as Bowyer backed up by Dobbie and he may see the light.
I doubt it personally but he did spot Bowler, so must have some football knowledge.
 
In his post-match presser Critichley spoke of not producing moments of quality. Sorry, it's the end of March. Nine months into the season. That comment tells me why Critchley should move on; he hasn't coached improvement into the players. I fully agree with @Chunkylad that rapidly rotating managers rarely works but even Critchley himself seems to have gone backwards in his thinking. If he is going to stay then he needs to take a long, hard look at his tactics and his approach to getting the most from his players. Otherwise, we're in for another season of being an inconsistent, 'nearly' team.
 
The only things for staying is if we improve really.

Or unless just giving a manger time to build a squad over a few windows will bear fruit.

Keeping sacking managers isn't good but you do have to be on the right path.

But then you'd have expected to see some improvement now and building towards the plan.

If we completely fail, given the run of games then it'll be a hard sell to keep him.

If we do well in these games and either get to the playoffs or miss out but end in good style showing some improvement then maybe there's a case, but it still won't inspire many for next season.

It also comes down to is he fully to blame or are the players good enough, regardless of setup and tactics, which obviously can be huge.

Right now we have to just see how the games go and judge from there.
 
I'd like to see if he can get hopping mad enough to get a red card.

The yellow the other day is going on the season highlights real for me.
 
Chunkylad said:
It’s hard to defend Critch right now.

The only reason I can think of, of why he should stay is that sacking managers rarely works. Most of the teams doing well in the leagues stick with their manager for longer than 2 seasons. With that in mind you want to give the new recruitment team and the manager that extra 2 windows to make it work.

Pretty tough to say that after those away games I’ve suffered.
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Whilst I agree to a large degree, it seems clear that the present bloke is set in his ways and not open to change. There's quite a lot wrong that's beyond transfer windows.

I hate to see recruitment go off the managerial merry go round and we should try to create some sort of progression. The easy route is Dobbie as a No 1 and someone like Thompson/Bowyer etc as a No 2. When SD has cut his teeth maybe bring in a young No 2/3 and give them the experience.

It doesn't have to be Dobbie, just an easy name for reference. Could be the main target that got away from NC Mk I first appt.
 
The lack of viable alternatives?
Sadler is more likely to back him in the summer?
The core of the squad like him?
Sometimes a bit of time and patience is required to build a successful team?
 
He’s steadied a sinking ship. There’s a lot of upheaval behind the scenes at the club and we’re not building for next season or the season after but instead for 4/5 years down the line.

Getting out of League 1 isn’t easy even for teams with 2/3 times our current budget so being where we are is ok.

I never expected him to turn things around overnight and turn a rightly relegated team into a Championship team at the first time of asking but the fact is we’re not a million miles away.

No team gets promoted from this league playing exciting attacking football. There’s room for improvement and I expect improvement to come, but the fact is we’ve built a fairly solid jumping off point for next season.

An overhaul in League 1 will likely be easier this season too without a squad of players on Championship wages on the books that maybe need moving on.

Also next season the terms are very clear - failure to get promoted is failure. That’s from the owner.
 
Chunkylad said:
It’s hard to defend Critch right now.

The only reason I can think of, of why he should stay is that sacking managers rarely works. Most of the teams doing well in the leagues stick with their manager for longer than 2 seasons. With that in mind you want to give the new recruitment team and the manager that extra 2 windows to make it work.

Pretty tough to say that after those away games I’ve suffered.
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A very balanced and sensible post, I’m with you here Chunky.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
He’s steadied a sinking ship. There’s a lot of upheaval behind the scenes at the club and we’re not building for next season or the season after but instead for 4/5 years down the line.

Getting out of League 1 isn’t easy even for teams with 2/3 times our current budget so being where we are is ok.

I never expected him to turn things around overnight and turn a rightly relegated team into a Championship team at the first time of asking but the fact is we’re not a million miles away.

No team gets promoted from this league playing exciting attacking football. There’s room for improvement and I expect improvement to come, but the fact is we’ve built a fairly solid jumping off point for next season.

An overhaul in League 1 will likely be easier this season too without a squad of players on Championship wages on the books that maybe need moving on.

Also next season the terms are very clear - failure to get promoted is failure. That’s from the owner.
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Can you honestly say the way we are set up is the way forward?
Unless Critchley change's his dire negative tactics we are going nowhere.
If we keep Critchley next season and don't change our gates will be down to 5/6 thousand.
 
Chunkylad said:
It’s hard to defend Critch right now.

The only reason I can think of, of why he should stay is that sacking managers rarely works. Most of the teams doing well in the leagues stick with their manager for longer than 2 seasons. With that in mind you want to give the new recruitment team and the manager that extra 2 windows to make it work.

Pretty tough to say that after those away games I’ve suffered.
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You wouldn't be referring to the pair of windows with badly cracked panes of glass there, would you?
 
I want Critchley gone as much an anyone else. I will say though that there no point of getting rid if we're just going to replace him with another cheap yes man. We need to have a clear path going forward and get in a manager that isn't afraid to speak his mind. I've said on here multiple times who I would like to replace Critchley, but if we are going to just replace him with a like for like then there's no point.
 
So it doesn’t cost Simon more money,firstly he will need to pay some kind of compensation to critch,secondly a better manager would also cost more money.On top of the reported £5 mill he’s pumping in,which I thought I saw a chart saying 90 million over the next ten seasons,unless i’ve mis understood it,where’s the other 4 mill gone,
 
Arriedirk said:
So it doesn’t cost Simon more money,firstly he will need to pay some kind of compensation to critch,secondly a better manager would also cost more money.On top of the reported £5 mill he’s pumping in,which I thought I saw a chart saying 90 million over the next ten seasons,unless i’ve mis understood it,where’s the other 4 mill gone,
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Noy necessarily. Yes we would have to pay Critchley out, however there is apparently a clause in his contract to do with that so it's not that much. Also there are managers out there who look like they could do a better job and still not cost the earth, Pete Wild at Barrow is a prime example of that. We would probably end up paying him less than Critchley.
 
I'm sure as critch is a decent man... if not working he would just walk and not expect a pay off..... I'm confident he would... surely as he owes us after his walk out 🤔🙄
 
td53 said:
I'd like to see if he can get hopping mad enough to get a red card.

The yellow the other day is going on the season highlights real for me.
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I’m loving the aggressive clapping, I think you’re in the south but when he comes over to the north after a bad result him staring out people who are giving him the wanker sign and telling him to fuck off is excellent entertainment
Clapping in an aggressive manner is an art form that he’s got down to a tee ( I’m not even joking he scares the hell out of me)
 
TangerineArmy said:
I'm sure as critch is a decent man... if not working he would just walk and not expect a pay off..... I'm confident he would... surely as he owes us after his walk out 🤔🙄
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I don't know about that, he walked because of the money on offer at Villa. If SS negotiated a break in the contract then it's a none issue but I would be surprised if that is the case.
 
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