Red Card? 🟥

King Billy said:
He walked off like he didn’t really give a shit.
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Err…what’s he supposed to do,head butt the ref,kick the writhing play actor on the floor?
Pointless arguing with the ref once the card was shown.
Watched it back now on the various highlights and no way was that a red card and the incident leading up to it with the headlock on Beesley goes unpunished.
Doesn’t matter where the ref was from ( though a ridiculous appointment given his background) he was simply shocking and not just the red card.
 
bleach51 said:
Err…what’s he supposed to do,head butt the ref,kick the writhing play actor on the floor?
Pointless arguing with the ref once the card was shown.
Watched it back now on the various highlights and no way was that a red card and the incident leading up to it with the headlock on Beesley goes unpunished.
Doesn’t matter where the ref was from ( though a ridiculous appointment given his background) he was simply shocking and not just the red card.
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yep, agree but just to add is that i believe he was a late replacement for the scheduled ref. Someone on here said the original appointed ref was the one who did the reverse game at Pompey where he wasn't too popular with their manager for sending off one of their players. Wonder if they put in a late objection to him[if allowed]?
 
bleach51 said:
Err…what’s he supposed to do,head butt the ref,kick the writhing play actor on the floor?
Pointless arguing with the ref once the card was shown.
Watched it back now on the various highlights and no way was that a red card and the incident leading up to it with the headlock on Beesley goes unpunished.
Doesn’t matter where the ref was from ( though a ridiculous appointment given his background) he was simply shocking and not just the red card.
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Yeah and it’s that accepting attitude why we are a soft touch.
Although to be fair today was an exception as we did join in with a bit of shit housery after the red
 
King Billy said:
Yeah and it’s that accepting attitude why we are a soft touch.
Although to be fair today was an exception as we did join in with a bit of shit housery after the red
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The calm way that Rhodes handled the situation might well add some positive influence to any appeal. That’s his character and he’s been the same way throughout his career…. That cool head and professionalism is what gets him the goals ..

Not every player needs to be a Gary Madine đź‘Ť
 
It's happening all the tome now.
When a player goes down he immediately starts rolling ovr about 5/6 times.
The bloody idiot referees fall for it time after time.
 
what i will add and i don't believe it's been said yet is that i saw the ref clearly indicate that he sent of Rhodes for use of his elbow and made the gesture to our players by showing a bent arm rather than a straight one. Replays of the incident clearly show that was nothing like what actually happened. I hope the refs gesture has been captured on screen and also that if the ref has now actually seen a replay of the incident he doesn't change his report and lie about what he indicated as opposed to what actually happened.
 
The_Saracen said:
Referee may well be form Preston but he is a Blackburn Rovers fan. Factamundo. I know that because my pal is his mate. Told my pal to give him some pelters.
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There’s a Blackpool fan on here stating he knows him was at college with him and he’s a nobber .

Far more credible than “my pal is his mate.”

A Blackburn fan wouldn’t have sent Jordan Rhodes off. The man walks on water in that town . He’s a club legend.
 
the_dog said:
Watched frame by frame - how can it have been an 'elbow' when his arm is completely straight?
The defender who ran up behind him clearly helped swing the decision.
Do wonder if Rhodes felt bone against his arm and in that second wondered if he had his arm bent.
I think he'll be disappointed by not challenging the referee more having seen it.
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No point challenging the decision, you aren't going to change the refs mind, he'd already made his mind up on red...ridiculous decision by the way, if he doesn't win the appeal then the game as a sport is done...
 
Being a Preston fan it was probably his lifelong ambition to send off Jordan Rhodes at Blackpool.
 
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You see similar incidents all the time in football and they mostly get a yellow, if anything at all.
It barely looked like a foul. We'd all have been fine with yellow - but a straight red - c'mon.
Hopefully, we are formally appealing it.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The calm way that Rhodes handled the situation might well add some positive influence to any appeal. That’s his character and he’s been the same way throughout his career…. That cool head and professionalism is what gets him the goals ..

Not every player needs to be a Gary Madine đź‘Ť
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Yes had the whole thing cause a mass brawl then that wouldn’t work in his favour.
Although to a lot of neutrals his lack on reaction seems to infer Rhodes isn’t innocent.
 
King Billy said:
Yes had the whole thing cause a mass brawl then that wouldn’t work in his favour.
Although to a lot of neutrals his lack on reaction seems to infer Rhodes isn’t innocent.
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Remonstrating with a referee after a card has been issued is an aggravating factor… It doesn’t prove anything, other than the individual who is remonstrating has a lack of self-discipline and control.

It’s also not about what neutrals might think, the only people that matter right now are those people who will be making the decision to (hopefully) overturn the red card.

He did the right thing 100% and if the organisation is remotely fit for purpose, the card will be overturned.
 
20togo said:
yep, agree but just to add is that i believe he was a late replacement for the scheduled ref. Someone on here said the original appointed ref was the one who did the reverse game at Pompey where he wasn't too popular with their manager for sending off one of their players. Wonder if they put in a late objection to him[if allowed]?
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That would be an interesting story if true. The EFL need to introduce more stringent tests on if there could be bias from a referee. Would love to see a video of the odious ref getting slaps on the back and drinks bought by his Nobber mates on Saturday night!
 
Wizaard said:
If anything, their player jumped into his arm.
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His arm is rotating away from their player. Rhodes jumps facing the player, his arm goes over the top of his head and he ends up with his back to the player… As you say their player just jumps into Rhodes.

There’s also no way that the referee is positioned well enough to make a clear sending off decision in any case.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
His arm is rotating away from their player. Rhodes jumps facing the player, his arm goes over the top of his head and he ends up with his back to the player… As you say their player just jumps into Rhodes.

There’s also no way that the referee is positioned well enough to make a clear sending off decision in any case.
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The bottom line is, the headlock on Beesley should have been a freekick to us, then none of the ensuing challenges happen.
 
I'd be interested to understand what an appeal looks like in this situation.

I'm sure it's not as straightforward as us saying we don't agree, there has to be evidence or factors why we don't. So as Wiz says, is the Beesley foul taken into account and is it part of our reason for the appeal? Are the stills of the straight arm part of the evidence presented by the club? And finally is Rhodes' previous career conduct taken into consideration by the people hearing the appeal, and how out far out of character it would be for it to be considered as a dangerous challenge?
 
20togo said:
yep, agree but just to add is that i believe he was a late replacement for the scheduled ref. Someone on here said the original appointed ref was the one who did the reverse game at Pompey where he wasn't too popular with their manager for sending off one of their players. Wonder if they put in a late objection to him[if allowed]?
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He's new to refereeing in the Football League. I may have read somewhere that it was his second league outing but I could be wrong. Either way, giving him Blackpool v Portsmouth was probably a bad idea. He was out of his depth.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
He's new to refereeing in the Foorball League. I may have read somewhere that it was his second league outing but I could be wrong. Either way, giving him Blackpool v Portsmouth was probably a bad idea. He was out of his depth.
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no, he's done a few league games. Someone post a screen shot of the games he's done this season. at least a dozen or so. But yep he seemed way out of his depth.
 
From where I was sat in the West I was initially more concerned that when Rafferty went to ground he pulled Rhodes' ankle to stop him getting away. Don't know if anyone else saw that.
 
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BFC4EVA said:
Critchley said Saturday night they were already on with the appeal process
Should know at some point today if it’s been rescinded
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Delfino said:
Hoping for a response today.
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Might not be decided until tomorrow.
Santos won his appeal for his two footed scythe on the following Tuesday - in enough time to play in Bolton's match that night.

www.bwfc.co.uk

Whites Win Santos Appeal | Bolton Wanderers FC

Red card overturned after successful claim of wrongful dismissal
www.bwfc.co.uk www.bwfc.co.uk
 
20togo said:
no, he's done a few league games. Someone post a screen shot of the games he's done this season. at least a dozen or so. But yep he seemed way out of his depth.
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Brett Ormerod alluded to the same thing on commentary that the ref was too inexperienced for a game of such importance. The argument that a Preston based referee shouldn't referee a Blackpool game is likely to fall on deaf ears too because the EFL sanctioned the change and would look stupid (not difficult!) if they gave in to that argument.

What can be argued is that there was no violent intent, That Rhodes lead with his arm as a protective measure given his recent rib injury and that he is a model pro, played 17 years without a single red card. I have no faith that the EFL will do the right thing though they still harbour a grudge against us.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The calm way that Rhodes handled the situation might well add some positive influence to any appeal. That’s his character and he’s been the same way throughout his career…. That cool head and professionalism is what gets him the goals ..

Not every player needs to be a Gary Madine đź‘Ť
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Listened to Gary Bowyer a few weeks ago on the I had Trials Once podcast and he described Rhodes as the nicest bloke he'd come across in football during his career.
 
Very sporting of Critchley not to blame Rafferty for blatant cheating. It’s Rafferty who should receive a retrospective red card and 20 match ban for being a Grade A Twát. *









* Only half joking
 
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