For everything!
What did you mean by it? I took it to mean you were dismissing the polls showing how unfavourable he is and how few people actually strongly like him.
I don't believe there are people who sit at home fit but wanting benefits in order to skive. I think that's a lazy right wing trope.
Nope, confirming their results
Sadly there are MANY MANY people playing the system and finding ways to never work.
CIA?
Nice and easy to remember
I’ll add Farage should be the first chunt on the punctured dinghy to Rwanda. As for parents no fucker ever listens to them. Now get some bloody work done before IT realises you spend all day on here.
TM the worst Home Secretary bar none
She was Home Secretary for longer than anyone in 50 years, so if she was that bad then I don’t think that would have happened.
It did, she oversaw many changes to the Police Service which has been detrimental since.
She got harder on drugs and immigration.
Am not in, you turnip. I've heard Rwanda is nice this time of year though.I’ll add Farage should be the first chunt on the punctured dinghy to Rwanda. As for parents no fucker ever listens to them. Now get some bloody work done before IT realises you spend all day on here.
I think I am the polar opposite to you when it comes to opinion but I totally agree with you when it comes to the electoral system.
!I agree with a lot of what you write but there are so many people who have made themselves virtually unemployable through drug and alcohol abuse in our area.
It's a really difficult one, I'm not a business person but I'm guessing most business people don't want to employ them.
That’s why I think the “cut their benefits and they’ll have to work” mantra isn’t very convincing.
But I chose my words carefully. The people you describe are not fit. Whether through, alcohol, drugs or some other mental difficulty, they are not fully functioning. I agree that it suits no-one to fund such lifestyles and the answer needs to involve better housing, employment and education.
No surprise to anyone that I vote Labour, but I agree 100% about the electoral system. I wonder what the result would be in a referendum re PR now?I think I am the polar opposite to you when it comes to opinion but I totally agree with you when it comes to the electoral system.
We are being forced into a so called democratic system where the two major political parties are occupying the same ground, with one being slightly worse than the other depending on your viewpoint, and billionaires and big business calling the shots.
It works so well in the USA
Why does the UK always copy the worst shit from America?
I'm voting Green I guess JJ is voting Reform, we need to kick Tory and Labour and the voting system into touch and get true representation for all the people and work together to have a long term benefit for the majority and not the elite.
The mega wealthy will always be fine they don't need narrow minded upper working class people to help them!!!
Let's look after ourselves and make the country a better place for the majority, right, left and centre!
I'll add to that with Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner. I didn't necessarily agree with their views but they had integrity and convictions. Unlike the present woeful bunch. I really can't see me voting at the next GE. I wouldn't want it on my conscience, voting for any of the self serving wankers.Sadly there are MANY MANY people playing the system and finding ways to never work.
I do know this from people who work in the Civil Service in this area - and some of the stuff that goes on is definitely innovative!!!
Happy to share over a pint when I am back and have a chat
For the avoidance of doubt, this is not some male bollox about meeting for a fight - it’s about having a few beers
I think regarding the main parties, I am just sick of the race to the bottom with campaigning, and in reality Labour (for me) are worse than the Tory’s at this, or have been recently.
The worst I can remember recently is “Do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison? Rishi Sunak doesn’t.”
The quality of current politicians and this sort of campaigning is just woeful.
Twenty to thirty years ish ago, all sides had credible people who you genuinely thought cared, and even if you didn’t agree with them you believed they had the countries best interest at heart.
John McDonald is a very good example of this - a man I will very rarely agree with or would ever vote for, however you know what he stands for and what he really believes - and he sticks to it - that I respect - not the shower that say just what they think the public want to hear.
Theresa May is probably the Tory version - she cares - 90% of her income goes to her charitable foundation. She is straight, principled and hard working. I really think History will judge her better than currently - after all, as PM she was dealt probably the impossible hand.
Rant over!
Unfortunately they don't have to think things through and come up with a logical solution to get votes.
Rusty, Tony Benn was my MP for years (at Chesterfield) and was frankly useless. I had a personal issue regarding placement of my son at a school and he was terrible, all he seemed to be bothered about was his 'profile'.He was very lazy.
It's not a party, its a private company, so nothing changes.
As I always say on this subject it is important that people turn out to vote. It is democracy in action. If you don't want to vote for any of the candidates then write "none of the above" on the paper. Spoilt ballots are counted and declared in the result.
There won't be anything on the environment because they are against the green agenda, and want to increase the use of fossil fuels. Net zero is nonsense to them.
Their energy section is laughably bad. Just easily debunked theories copied from Twitter comments. The atmosphere is only 0.4% carbon dioxide so how can it be that bad? Well, because we live in a goldilocks planet which harbours the only known life in the solar system and likely the only intelligent life in the entire galaxy, so the ecosystem tends to be a little delicate and a 0.1% change here or there is actually literally what keeps us all alive. One of their few energy 'policies' is to end renewable subsidies and drill more north sea oil even though it's questionable at best the amount of resource we can affordably extract and nobody who knows anything about this believes it would have any impact on market price, and Reform also don't seem to know we spend more money subsidizing fossil fuels than we do renewables, and that the hard work in this area has already been done. Battery and solar power prices are getting exponentially cheaper by the day without government intervention. Just a piss poor weak effort all around.
Ah the old vested interest.
Ex- vested interest correct
I said that earlier in the thread. Only people interested in politics will have even heard of them.
It's always very difficult in the FPTP system, but like NF says, Labour will win and if people think and know that they may vote with more freedom and as he says, the tories are finished, for this election anyway.
More so to Labour. If, what you say is true they are the gift that will keep Labour in government for decades.
Don't forget that the rise of the nationalists severely hampered Labour's vote. had Labour retained their Scottish seats they could have formed a minority Government in 2017.
Aren't you contradicting yourself?
No, you've misread it.
That may be so but I'd still take both of them over the current shower of shite
For me they all piss in the same pot
Excellent work on the first photo.I read they weren't standing in Blackpool, not sure if something changed or if that was just wrong info.
Tory defector Lee Anderson launches Reform UK's campaign in Blackpool
The ex-Conservative deputy chairman rode around the seaside constituency in an open-top bus as he began his new party's bid to win the Lancashire seat on 2 May.www.dailymail.co.uk
Either way, they've gone for Mark Butcher, who I believe stood as an independent before and also runs the soup kitchen amazing grace and also the highly rated pizza place, pizza grazie.
Be interesting to see if they can do anything from a standing start, given the amount of moaning people in Blackpool do about the local labour council...
Not the best look
Yeah I thought that, but can't help how someone captures you when waving
In recent times Labour have won with centralist policies. Despite this the arrogant, agenda driven right wing still think they can be successful by the politics of fear.
