Sadler / Mansford honeymoon period is over!

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nuckythompson

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I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
 
Seaside Aggro said:
Sadler clearly know what he’s doing. Everything he’s done, including appointments has made absolute sense on paper. It’s not working at the moment, but it’s not Sadler’s fault.
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Don’t agree at all. Grayson was a short sighted and lazy appointment, based on his previous success at the club, but clearly not considering his limited success in the past couple of years. It clearly showed Sadler doesn’t know the market.
 
nuckythompson said:
I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
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Can we stop acting as if Sadler is a manager or player who we should just turn against when things go wrong and easily replace... the guy saved this club from the demise of the Oystons and has invested millions already, that alone means he deserves our support and faith regardless of what’s going on on the pitch.
 
Shiggy said:
Can we stop acting as if Sadler is a manager or player who we should just turn against when things go wrong and easily replace... the guy saved this club from the demise of the Oystons and has invested millions already, that alone means he deserves our support and faith regardless of what’s going on on the pitch.
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Absofuckinlutely! What kind of dream world does the opening poster inhabit?
 
nuckythompson said:
I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
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What’s the plan? Shall we start protesting / marching against Sadler? Has he backed the manager too much?

You must be on a wind up.
 
nuckythompson said:
I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
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Not for me. We are extremely, extremely lucky to have Sadler. If the Oystons had dug their heels in longer and still been here, or we'd been ownerless going into this pandemic, things could be looking very different right now. I honestly dread to think where we might have ended up.

Everything is going in the right direction, bar the on-pitch stuff, at the minute. But that will come good.
 
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You’d have to be either a complete prick or an Oyston, so basically the same thing to criticise Sir Simon.
He saved us. Full stop. Saved us. How hard is it to show appreciation for that? How entitled do you have to feel to not get that?

Our options were some half baked criminal from the Costa del Crime or a consortium from the Far East that thought we were Blackburn Rovers or something.
We got one of our own that has brought the club forward to what it should be infrastructure wise and is investing on the pitch too.
Critch is a bold gamble. Why the hell not? Give it a go, give it some time you just never know?
Either way he’s one of our own and desperately wants success unlike generations of previous owners.
See you at the Windmill 😂
 
I think a lot of the issues is football experience or lack off, there’s non on the board and critch is used to coaching youngsters coming through...
 
voyeur said:
Absofuckinlutely! What kind of dream world does the opening poster inhabit?
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One where I don’t drink the cool-aid.

I am and was delighted when the Oyston’s left and the club got a new local owner who is ambitious and is clearly trying to set up a fit for purpose training ground, academy, and invest money into the club and its facilities.

That’s not going to stop me pointing out that Grayson was a shocking appointment, Mansford messed up massively by not having a replacement lined up and then had an embarrassing number of managers turn down the job, and we’ve not had the best start to the season or the best end to last season...with shocking football.

What, are we North Korea, where just because the Oystons have gone, we aren’t allowed to criticise mistakes that have gone on. Some people may want to bury their heads in the sand, that’s their prerogative. I’ll carry on praising things done well and call out things that haven’t.[/QUOTE]
 
nuckythompson said:
One where I don’t drink the cool-aid.

I am and was delighted when the Oyston’s left and the club got a new local owner who is ambitious and is clearly trying to set up a fit for purpose training ground, academy, and invest money into the club and its facilities.

That’s not going to stop me pointing out that Grayson was a shocking appointment, Mansford messed up massively by not having a replacement lined up and then had an embarrassing number of managers turn down the job, and we’ve not had the best start to the season or the best end to last season...with shocking football.

What, are we North Korea, where just because the Oystons have gone, we aren’t allowed to criticise mistakes that have gone on. Some people may want to bury their heads in the sand, that’s their prerogative. I’ll carry on praising things done well and call out things that haven’t.
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Best post of the day.
 
nuckythompson said:
I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
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I agree Mansfield must be held responsible for these poor signings along with the chief scout can't remember his name.
Since Mansfield was appointed there have been plenty of signings but how many have been a success im struggling to name one ?? Plenty sent out on loan or off loaded Nuttal /Hardie ect ect ect to many to name.
 
Finfind said:
I agree Mansfield must be held responsible for these poor signings along with the chief scout can't remember his name.
Since Mansfield was appointed there have been plenty of signings but how many have been a success im struggling to name one ?? Plenty sent out on loan or off loaded Nuttal /Hardie ect ect ect to many to name.
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Certainly seem to have been more misses than hits
 
no-more-lies said:
You have an agenda against Mansford. Its quite clear.
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Really? Because I’ve been critical over the process of appointing a new manager and the signings?

So sorry, I’m doing cartwheels that we had so many managers turn us down in a recruitment process that he oversaw and that the signing of players that he is heavily involved in seems to have brought more misses than hits.

Have a word with yourself 🙈
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
I know were all stuck at home with nowhere to go during lockdown
BUT......some of us should really stop drinking that cheap lager from Aldi and talking complete bo##ox.
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Unfortunately appointing one of the best coaches on the planet.....
Does not MEAN......
Your getting a good manager......
Up to now we have a BAD manager of our squad........
Time will tell IF he can properly manage these men......
He doesnt come across as the sort of guy who will kick a few back sides.......
Personally id look at the next 5.....
There has to be improvement.....
 
Spider29 said:
Unfortunately appointing one of the best coaches on the planet.....
Does not MEAN......
Your getting a good manager......
Up to now we have a BAD manager of our squad........
Time will tell IF he can properly manage these men......
He doesnt come across as the sort of guy who will kick a few back sides.......
Personally id look at the next 5.....
There has to be improvement.....
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If we loose all 5 he has to go
 
nuckythompson said:
One where I don’t drink the cool-aid.

I am and was delighted when the Oyston’s left and the club got a new local owner who is ambitious and is clearly trying to set up a fit for purpose training ground, academy, and invest money into the club and its facilities.

That’s not going to stop me pointing out that Grayson was a shocking appointment, Mansford messed up massively by not having a replacement lined up and then had an embarrassing number of managers turn down the job, and we’ve not had the best start to the season or the best end to last season...with shocking football.

What, are we North Korea, where just because the Oystons have gone, we aren’t allowed to criticise mistakes that have gone on. Some people may want to bury their heads in the sand, that’s their prerogative. I’ll carry on praising things done well and call out things that haven’t.
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Not North Korea, no. A very different place, where a hedge fund owner can buy a football club and do whatever he likes. We got lucky - when you consider other clubs, and our own previous owner.
 
nuckythompson said:
Really? Because I’ve been critical over the process of appointing a new manager and the signings?

So sorry, I’m doing cartwheels that we had so many managers turn us down in a recruitment process that he oversaw and that the signing of players that he is heavily involved in seems to have brought more misses than hits.

Have a word with yourself 🙈
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Yes exactly because of that.
 
Hazi said:
Yes exactly because of that.
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So if I’m critical of the government’s Covid response, does that mean I’ve got an agenda against them? It could be that I’m just giving an opinion.

BTW, when Mansford was appointed, I actually posted that I thought it was a good appointment.

That doesn’t smack of someone with an agenda.
 
i cant believe were not top of the league weve signed 15 players that have never played together in a system thats new to them with a untested coach shame on all of them critchley, out mansford out sadler out someone tell me the way to the end of the pier its over.
 
We have pretty much recruited all key roles within an organisation in 12 months, just like the playing squad it will take time for people to settle into their roles. In Mansford's case he's relocated from Israel, Sadler is juggling BFC alongside his HK based business in the most trying of times, Critchley has gone from a role where style and theory is more important than results and experience. Many of the players have left friends and uprooted their families in what must be a strange season playing behind closed doors. The club is changing for the better, the only thing missing is a couple of good results. The new CHs will help, getting a couple of the players out to be replaced with a an extra striker, a good one, proven at L1, must be the priority. With Virtue, Kaikai and Husband back soon we will then have a squad capable of turning things around. NCs job is more than just formations and theory, he and his coaching team need to be in the ears of every player, building them up, giving them a kick and making sure they come out firing against Crewe. I have my reservations but we have to remain patient for at least 12 league games.
 
Shiggy said:
Can we stop acting as if Sadler is a manager or player who we should just turn against when things go wrong and easily replace... the guy saved this club from the demise of the Oystons and has invested millions already, that alone means he deserves our support and faith regardless of what’s going on on the pitch.
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Totally agree, I didn’t hear one word of dissent when he took over, only euphoria. Since then he’s invested heavily and appointed people to run the club who most on here were happy about. Of course when things go wrong, scrutiny has to take place and I’m sure Simon Sadler will be doing that.
 
nuckythompson said:
I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
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Don't worry, by this time next year we will be ready for a promotion push, in League 2.😜
 
Of course Sadler doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s not spent 20+ years in the industry. He’s a fan who’s worked hard and made some money and probably thought more with his heart than his head when he bought a cluster fuck of a football club.
He’s a bloody hero and he’s a smart man who’s taken advice and brought in football professionals to make the decisions and do the job he understandably isn’t qualified to do.

The OP needs to wake up and get real. Sadler’s a god send but he’s not and can’t possibly turn shite into gold every time he touches it. It will take time. Show some patience you arrogant, entitled simpletons.

Sadler, Mansford, Critchley - they have my support 100%.
 
bfcfan 1960 said:
i cant believe were not top of the league weve signed 15 players that have never played together in a system thats new to them with a untested coach shame on all of them critchley, out mansford out sadler out someone tell me the way to the end of the pier its over.
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I realise your comment is tongue in cheek. But wind back the clock to pre season when the signings were flowing in, a high percentage of this board thought we would be top of the league. Lots were lobbing their hard earned at long odds on us romping the league, smashing everyone with lots of goals. It's turned out not to be the case (so far) and are now embarrassed and have gone into defending the Management team whatever they do. Never met a poor bookie!
 
So, Grayson is in the past and yes a mistake in retrospect but the only way to avoid mistakes is to sit on your hands and do nothing. Do you ever make mistakes Nucky and do your mates remind you of them all the time or do you prefer to sit on your hands and let other people take the risks so you can have a pop at them when it goes a bit off track?

I don't imagine SS walked into his business and made it an overnight success so he probably understands that life has a bit of ebb and flow
 
I can't believe that some idiots are blaming Sadler.
He's not the manager, he put lots of money into the club, we are damned lucky to have him as our owner.
Sadler thought he was doing the right thing in appointing Critchley.
So far it hasn't worked out the way he/we hoped it would.
The question now is 'How long does he let it go on before he says 'Enough is enough'?
 
The OP is exactly what is wrong with a percentage of our fanbase. They want instant success or it's throw the toys out of the pram and critisize everybody and anybody when everything doesn't work out straight away.

We all want success. We all want the team to do well. But this impatience is absolutely pathetic! Give Critchley a chance at least. Give Mansford a chance. He's been here a year. Critchley a few months. This isn't a video game. This is a competitive league with a lot of established sides.

And to have a pop at Sadler. Wow. How lucky we are to have a Blackpool lad and a Blackpool fan with plenty of money who wants to see his local team in the Premier League whilst supporting the local community at the same time.

Some people need to give their heads a serious wobble.
 
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Congratulations, you can look back and point out what should have happened 🙄
 
nuckythompson said:
I’ve posted previously about the shambolic recruitment process when Critchley was appointed. Prior to that Sadler messed up by appointing Grayson.

Mansford is a wannabe Director of Football and I’ve not seen anything from him so far to justify what is supposedly a massive salary.

For me the honeymoon period is over.

I’m genuinely not sure if either Sadler or Mansford really have a clue what they are doing.

One win in 5 this season. A disappointing 13th place finish last season.

The season prior to that we even finished 10th!

We’ve got rid of the Oyston’s. We need to be doing better than this! And I’m not buying the tosh that he’s only been at the club for just over a year. The product that’s been served on the pitch since he took over has been garbage....and alongside the Manager, that goes to the top of the organisation, the Owner, and wannabe Director of Football, Chief Executive.
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With a post like that are we supposed to expect Sadler to joyously fund the stadium rejuvenation and continue to pile investment into the training facilities, football management, ground staff, medical and ancillary health staff as well as funding the playing staff and transfers?
Why not write and tell him you intend to piss on the carpet in the entrance lobby next time you're passing?
 
Davepick said:
I can't believe that some idiots are blaming Sadler.
He's not the manager, he put lots of money into the club, we are damned lucky to have him as our owner.
Sadler thought he was doing the right thing in appointing Critchley.
So far it hasn't worked out the way he/we hoped it would.
The question now is 'How long does he let it go on before he says 'Enough is enough'?
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spot on.
 
We have been extremely lucky to have Simon Sadler take over the club after the very dark depressing Oyston years and we were all hugely grateful when he took over the reins but I have to say that some of the team managers we had under the Oystons,often I believe chosen after taking advice from our most revered Jimmy Armfield,did pretty well especially under the the difficult circumstances under which they were forced to operate.

So far and I stress so far, the men that have been chosen since SS took over including Mansford and the managers have not suggested that the future and indeed the present is nearly as bright as seemed to be promised at the time of the takeover .I think our owner said when he took over that last season was a time to take stock and this season we should be looking for promotion.That could of course still happen but things will have to radically improve to give us any chance of getting into contention for even the playoffs.

Our gratitude for what our new owner has so far so generously done for the club, great as it is, should surely not prohibit us from giving an honest assessment of where the team is presently at and what if anything is not working and needs improvement, as much currently clearly does, without somehow causing some to questioning our loyalty which in most cases and certainly mine,is lifelong as is our wish for a successful team.
 
Oyston was outed because he bled the club dry amongst other things.
None of which Sadler can be accused of, infact quite the opposite. So to compare them both in any way at all, like in the OP, is irrational and unfair in my opinion.
 
Lala said:
Oyston was outed because he bled the club dry amongst other things.
None of which Sadler can be accused of, infact quite the opposite. So to compare them both in any way at all, like in the OP, is irrational and unfair in my opinion.
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That is certainly all true Lala but I don`t think it contradicts anything in my post above.
 
I expect most of you were at the come back game against Southend, I certainly was. Remember how excited we were and singing Sadlers name. He’s still the same guy, he’s still investing, hence the tangerine slats replacing the rusty ones.

The guys a hero in my eyes, Mansford on the other hand is still in the trial period.
 
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