Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe

Just how can anyone stab another person 27 times in the head and chest?

Never even shown any remorse they just blamed each other.

Should never see the light of day again for me utter scumbags.
 
These two pieces of shit should be put in a closed room with relatives and friends and get the shit kicked out of them before they get locked up for life.

Yet, there will be people out there wanting to rehabilitate them and Parole Board bending over backwards in the future to release them as they show 'remorse'

For me..a captive bolt through their collective heads.


Evil, nothing but evil.
 
Just listening to the coverage and evidence coming out this Scarlett Jenkinson is one fcuked up girl. Totally evil. Notebooks listing her favourite serial killers and a step by step plan to kill Brianna. What a nightmare.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
I always struggle with the difference between evil and mental health issues, how can anyone do such a thing? Premediated, if not insane it should be a whole life tariff.
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I struggle with the difference too. The added complication here is that it was children involved. I can't imagine what has gone wrong with them to lead them down the path to do this.

Their parents must be in shock too.
 
Archibald Knox said:
There are some fairly evil comments about retribution.

“… a captive bolt through their collective heads.”
Behave.
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Not retribution, punishment there is a difference.

If it was my daughter or son etc, evil doesn't come into it, just some sort of parity for their actions.


When you've been involved with this human detritus for as many years I did, you get a different perspective of things and certainly don't tend to rely on the Criminal Justice System to meter the justice required.
 
I’m totally shocked by this crime. I think my own prejudice led me down the path of thinking they’d be kids with shocking upbringings damaged by neglect or trauma or something. Not that that would excuse it, but in my own head it might make a tiny bit more sense.

But they have stable backgrounds with parents in decent jobs and no reports of neglect etc. Intelligent articulate kids.
I can’t fathom this. I can’t understand the desire to kill at any cost, or at all to be honest. I can only imagine they aren’t wired right somewhere, psychopaths, but I don’t think psychopathy is even considered a mental illness.

A truly shocking crime and the end of a beautiful young life.

RIP Brianna 🌹❤️
 
i have seen the sentencing remarks on tik tok. the judge to her credit can barely contain her anger . but she remains calm and collected. . probasbly wanted to tell these creatures what a pair of disgusting vermin they were.
 
Lala said:
I’m totally shocked by this crime. I think my own prejudice led me down the path of thinking they’d be kids with shocking upbringings damaged by neglect or trauma or something. Not that that would excuse it, but in my own head it might make a tiny bit more sense.

But they have stable backgrounds with parents in decent jobs and no reports of neglect etc. Intelligent articulate kids.
I can’t fathom this. I can’t understand the desire to kill at any cost, or at all to be honest. I can only imagine they aren’t wired right somewhere, psychopaths, but I don’t think psychopathy is even considered a mental illness.

A truly shocking crime and the end of a beautiful young life.

RIP Brianna 🌹❤️
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And still no remorse from either of them tells you all you need to know about both of them.
 
I have my doubts about whether they should have been named. And so did Brianna's father, who said "They're nothing - they should just be forgotten about". I can easily see his point of view.
Questions can be asked about how these two developed their obsession without needing to name them.

Instead, girl X and boy Y are probably now revelling in the knowledge that their names are known and may well be revered by any other twisted individuals out there, just as they themselves were "inspired" by notorious killers.

And, these days more than ever it seems, there's the risk of angry people with no connection to Brianna seeking some form of self-righteous retribution against the families and anyone else they see as indirectly responsible, when as Lala noted.....
Lala said:
....they have stable backgrounds with parents in decent jobs and no reports of neglect etc. Intelligent articulate kids.
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Yarmouth Seasider said:
I thought the sentences were a bit lenient to be honest, they should never see the outside world again. No remorse, both blamed each other and both pleaded not guilty. Full life terms for both of them would have done for me.
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They may never get out if they don’t pass parole. If their personalities are intrinsically evil they possibly won’t as they will always be a danger to society. I suppose the sentence length is a starting point for now.
 
Toastrack said:
I have my doubts about whether they should have been named. And so did Brianna's father, who said "They're nothing - they should just be forgotten about". I can easily see his point of view.
Questions can be asked about how these two developed their obsession without needing to name them.

Instead, girl X and boy Y are probably now revelling in the knowledge that their names are known and may well be revered by any other twisted individuals out there, just as they themselves were "inspired" by notorious killers.

And, these days more than ever it seems, there's the risk of angry people with no connection to Brianna seeking some form of self-righteous retribution against the families and anyone else they see as indirectly responsible, when as Lala noted.....
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Their names were well known in the local community anyway so would only have been a matter of time before they came out
 
Toastrack said:
I have my doubts about whether they should have been named. And so did Brianna's father, who said "They're nothing - they should just be forgotten about". I can easily see his point of view.
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Totally agree. The only name that needs remembering in all of this is Brianna Ghey.
 
On balance, I do think it is right to name convicted criminals (even young people) particularly after they are sentenced. Firstly, it could be the case that they have committed other crimes and the publicity results in other victims coming forward. Secondly, a good proportion of convicted individuals do re-offend and I think that communities have a right to know if there are any risks of an ex-offender locally. Thirdly, (raised recently by the judge in the Jamie Bulger case) that the revealing of identities allows a wider discussion about what background and other factors contributed to their committing the crime. Both were from middle class family backgrounds and both were intelligent individuals, who knew what they were doing and had accessed the 'dark web' on violent sources that the police described as truly shocking violence and depravity. Should oarents be more aware? The planning for this crime was clearly premeditated and they had a plan to try to cover it up and showed no remorse ar all. When sentenced the judge revealed for the first time that Jenkinson had compiled a further 'death list' while in custody, including the staff of the secure unit she was in. It has also been subsequently been revealed that she had been excluded from an earlier school for spiking another pupil with cannabis and causing them to be seriously ill. The police investigated that. The school that then agreed to take her (Brianna's) were only told she had been caught in possession of cannabis rather than the full story. So there could be other learning points for organisations and society as a whole.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Not retribution, punishment there is a difference.

If it was my daughter or son etc, evil doesn't come into it, just some sort of parity for their actions.


When you've been involved with this human detritus for as many years I did, you get a different perspective of things and certainly don't tend to rely on the Criminal Justice System to meter the justice required.
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Don't like to hear that Bend It. The justice system has to be clean and professional. Whatever might go through our minds as individuals, if we are charged with upholding the law it must be by the book.
 
Lala said:
I’m totally shocked by this crime. I think my own prejudice led me down the path of thinking they’d be kids with shocking upbringings damaged by neglect or trauma or something. Not that that would excuse it, but in my own head it might make a tiny bit more sense.

But they have stable backgrounds with parents in decent jobs and no reports of neglect etc. Intelligent articulate kids.
I can’t fathom this. I can’t understand the desire to kill at any cost, or at all to be honest. I can only imagine they aren’t wired right somewhere, psychopaths, but I don’t think psychopathy is even considered a mental illness.

A truly shocking crime and the end of a beautiful young life.

RIP Brianna 🌹❤️
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This is what happens when society falls apart with manufactured culture wars that, in this case, have led to death because someone was trans.

We're bombarded daily with senior people in responsible positions dehumanising whole sections of the population and making them scapegoats, 'them and us'.

Well they don't speak for me.

We have to get away from this type of extremist language which is used by the more inarticulate and immature to justify such extreme action.
 
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