Should he stay or should he go now?

Should he stay or should he go now

  • Go

    Votes: 146 59.8%

  • Stay

    Votes: 65 26.6%

  • Not bothered

    Votes: 33 13.5%
  • Total voters
    244
BFCfan33 said:
The players will not be ignoring his instruction that's the last thing they will do, leave us do you mean us fans?
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He seems to be implying they do(Critchley) leave us as a team/squad...or is it that his riveting tactics/teamtalalks just baffle them..
 
There's far too much over thought going into all this. It's really simple, Critchley is weak as piss, he's a youth team manager and shouldn't be anywhere near a mens football team. His 2 sidekicks are a joke and between them we will never get promoted like we did last time, because he hasn't got someone who knows what they are talking about telling him what to do.

So if/when he goes it won't be a moment too soon. The other problem is Sadler, who obviously thinks the sun shines out of Critchley's arse and if his hand is forced because results get worse and the crowd are baying for blood, there is no way he will go for someone like Wellens or anyone else with a dash odf creativity about them, that is not his sort of manager.
 
Seasidetyler said:
He seems to be implying they do(Critchley) leave us as a team/squad...or is it that his riveting tactics/teamtalalks just baffle them..
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As i said they won't ignore his instructions, i do think the squad is united, to be honest can't comment on your last point
 
May as well stay until end of season now, but for me we must see improvement otherwise...

1. Why would we think it'll change going forward? These are virtually all his players and he's had a lot of time compared to many managers. Ok it can change with better players but we haven't seen any real signs of a style, you can still well drill a team to play a certain way. Look at what someone like Holloway did with a lot of average players, a clear defined style.

2. Demand for tickets will be down and if we are to do a ST scheme where can try and sell a big amount it has to be either with a version of NC who can do something and improve us, or to sell the most with a new exciting manager appointment.
 
65 & Counting said:
From what Sadler has said it would seem that Critchley will get next season to get it right.
If at the halfway point of next season it isn't going as Sadler expects then Critchley's position could and should come under serious threat.
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Critchley can only get it right if the squad is massively improved and I doubt that will happen.
 
The squad is not good enough and as I’ve said several times, very few get into the 2020 squad

SS in his interview stated that Neil states the type of player he wants and then the recruitment team goes and grinds that players and does the deal with SS signing it off.

That sounds a long way from the narrative that this is Critchleys squad.
 
The squad is good enough - results at home generally support that.. They just need coaching and a game plan that increases our chances of competing properly and scoring away from home. All that lies with the manager.
 
clappers said:
The squad is good enough - results at home generally support that.. They just need coaching and a game plan that increases our chances of competing properly and scoring away from home. All that lies with the manager.
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You can just as easily use the same logic to say it’s the squad and not the manager.
 
Seainsea said:
I have my doubts about Wellens, yes he was a talented player but lacked the pace to be a top player. Also, he had the Man U arrogance but not the high level ability to back it up. 8 transfer requests in the 4 years he was here are testament to that arrogance. He was ok when things were going well but often went missing when we were up against it. However, he did have a reasonable career at Championship level with Leicester so his attitude did improve as his career developed

Those same traits seem to have shown through in his managerial jobs, currently in his 5th job and to be fair doing well at Orient. I get the feeling he would be seen as a "difficult" character by SS and not fit the top level coach he seems to favour.

My opinion is that we should see out the season with Critchley and see how things develop. I would also keep a close eye on how Charlie Adam fares at Fleetwood because he has shown some potential in the short time he's been at Fleetwood.
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Wellens was a talented footballer. He lacked pace but had character on the pitch, and creative passing ability. His transfer requests are irrelevant, he wanted to play for a club that wasn't Oyston run, with poor wages and contracts and facilities. I think SS would probably view him as a difficult character, I agree. But the top level coach he favours isn't doing as good a job as him at the moment, and lost to him this week. We will definitely see out this season with Critchley, and I expect we will start next season with him too. It's worth keeping an eye on Adam, he seems to be doing better than I expected at Fleetwood. Early days though.
 
65 & Counting said:
From what Sadler has said it would seem that Critchley will get next season to get it right.
If at the halfway point of next season it isn't going as Sadler expects then Critchley's position could and should come under serious threat.
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No i get that and that seems fair to be honest, i just think there will be a bit of player movement at the end of the season which will enable him to get a few in that will probably suits us as a team better. But who knows, he will know now who will be staying that's if they accept new contracts and who will be going. Lets wait and see
 
BFCfan33 said:
No i get that and that seems fair to be honest, i just think there will be a bit of player movement at the end of the season which will enable him to get a few in that will probably suits us as a team better. But who knows, he will know now who will be staying that's if they accept new contracts and who will be going. Lets wait and see
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Agreed. Some physical presence along with character and on field leadership skills required. One thing for sure Critchley needs to get it spot on this time.
 
If you'd asked me at 2150 as I was walking away from Brisbane Road I'd have happily seen him sacked, along with several of the players. I've calmed down a bit now. We are safe and whilst the Play Offs are probably out of reach, he should be told in no uncertain terms that our away form and tactics have to change. If an elite coach can't figure things out between now and May, he should be shown the door.
 
NewburyOne said:
If you'd asked me at 2150 as I was walking away from Brisbane Road I'd have happily seen him sacked, along with several of the players. I've calmed down a bit now. We are safe and whilst the Play Offs are probably out of reach, he should be told in no uncertain terms that our away form and tactics have to change. If an elite coach can't figure things out between now and May, he should be shown the door.
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Based on the recent SS interview I suspect he will be.

Despite what was said, SS body language suggested to me that he’s far from happy with NC’s performance at the minute.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You can just as easily use the same logic to say it’s the squad and not the manager.
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No. The buck stops with the manager, if he can't get the players to follow his instructions, then he's not good enough, we have some very good players that were player of the season at there previous clubs, but under critchleys guidance, they've suddenly become a shadow of what they were, not a coincidence in my book.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You can just as easily use the same logic to say it’s the squad and not the manager.
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The players have to take some blame, but ultimately, sitting above them is the manager and coaching staff.

Their ideas, identify, influence, instructions etc ultimately shape ans give confidence to the team and any good manager should be able to get a team playing to it's potential, able to solve different problems, have a clear way of playing and philosophy they are working towards.
 
clappers said:
The squad is good enough - results at home generally support that.. They just need coaching and a game plan that increases our chances of competing properly and scoring away from home. All that lies with the manager.
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This, this and this. Home results show we have a decent team which can challenge at the top of League 1.
 
JJpool said:
The players have to take some blame, but ultimately, sitting above them is the manager and coaching staff.

Their ideas, identify, influence, instructions etc ultimately shape ans give confidence to the team and any good manager should be able to get a team playing to it's potential, able to solve different problems, have a clear way of playing and philosophy they are working towards.
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You can only start to blame the players if they fail to execute good tactical planning. You can't begin the blame players not good enough or playing out of position. I wonder if Husband thinks it's a fantastic idea to him to launch 70 yard diagonals from the first minute?
 
clappers said:
The squad is good enough - results at home generally support that.. They just need coaching and a game plan that increases our chances of competing properly and scoring away from home. All that lies with the manager.
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The chalk and cheese nature of home and away results suggest there is a serious lack of coaching and game plan.

Home form may equally be down to a lack of both too and just down to a home mentality. Perhaps I'm being harsh there.
 
fcblackpool said:
The chalk and cheese nature of home and away results suggest there is a serious lack of coaching and game plan.

Home form may equally be down to a lack of both too and just down to a home mentality. Perhaps I'm being harsh there.
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It could suggest whatever people want it to suggest and so if you’re already somewhat ‘anti-Critchley’, then you’ll inevitably gravitate towards an answer that confirms your own bias.

Coaching is certainly one potential answer. However it could be something as simple as confidence. It could also be a combination of different individual factors.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It could suggest whatever people want it to suggest and so if you’re already somewhat ‘anti-Critchley’, then you’ll inevitably gravitate towards an answer that confirms your own bias.

Coaching is certainly one potential answer. However it could be something as simple as confidence. It could also be a combination of different individual factors.
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I don't think it's confidence because that will be OK from the home form. There is a fear there and I did wonder whether we are missing Rhodes too much when away, he's that sort of player that the team will know if he gets a chance he'll likely stick it away. then again the form has been poor even when he was fit, but it will still play a small part i think.
 
fcblackpool said:
I don't think it's confidence because that will be OK from the home form. There is a fear there and I did wonder whether we are missing Rhodes too much when away, he's that sort of player that the team will know if he gets a chance he'll likely stick it away. then again the form has been poor even when he was fit, but it will still play a small part i think.
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Rhodes also compensates for our underperforming midfield with his link up play and general nous. We are badly missing him.
 
fcblackpool said:
I don't think it's confidence because that will be OK from the home form. There is a fear there and I did wonder whether we are missing Rhodes too much when away, he's that sort of player that the team will know if he gets a chance he'll likely stick it away. then again the form has been poor even when he was fit, but it will still play a small part i think.
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It could be that key players (Dembele in particular) get better protected by Refs at Home than Away. It's certainly possible that it is confidence and the whole 'Away' thing has become a psychological thing. It could be tactical, but then you'd possibly expect that sides would have worked out how to beat us at home, if it were just tactical and that simple... I suppose we could be approaching Away fixtures differently (perhaps more negatively or cautiously), but then surely Critchley would have had the common to recognise an obvious pattern and simply change his approach.

Critchley himself seems to be suggesting that it is a case of the players trusting in what they are being asked to do and maintaining the consistency in their approach, until such time as things start to come good. That may well be the case, but I can'y help, but think that we ought to be seeing some signs of progress and improvement by now.
 
Richie Wellens said his team didn't need to play to beat us the other night and approached it differently to their win at Oxford a few days before. Tries to adapt his plan to the opposition. So I think he knew in this one that our lot would get themselves in a mess and if they were there to take advantage just once and then make life difficult then it would be enough as there wouldn't be a response to it. But if they needed to they had another gear to move up into.

It sounds like one of his main metrics is common sense and being clear with his players what is expected of them.

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BFCfan33 said:
No i get that and that seems fair to be honest, i just think there will be a bit of player movement at the end of the season which will enable him to get a few in that will probably suits us as a team better. But who knows, he will know now who will be staying that's if they accept new contracts and who will be going. Lets wait and see
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this squad is pretty much entirely Critchleys. So he should have been fully aware of what suits and what doesn't suit how he wants to play. Sorry, that is nothing like a valid reason for what we've seen this season.
 
fcblackpool said:
You can only start to blame the players if they fail to execute good tactical planning. You can't begin the blame players not good enough or playing out of position. I wonder if Husband thinks it's a fantastic idea to him to launch 70 yard diagonals from the first minute?
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There's been a lack of a plan, but also look at the goal the other night, twice we belted it against their players and then they scored from that break away, it was completely preventable and individual mistakes. But also they don't happen as much with confident and well coached players. The lack of a style is the fault of above.
 
20togo said:
this squad is pretty much entirely Critchleys. So he should have been fully aware of what suits and what doesn't suit how he wants to play. Sorry, that is nothing like a valid reason for what we've seen this season.
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That's your view which is fine, i have mine and that's what i think so i'm correct
 
BFCfan33 said:
That's your view which is fine, i have mine and that's what i think so i'm correct
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nah, it's factual that pretty much all bar two players were signed by Critchley. So by saying what you did about him getting players in to suit how he wants to play and "will suit the team better" you are conceding that players who he's actually already signed himself don't suit the style he wants to play. So it begs the question why would he approve the signing of players who don't suit the style of how he wants to play.
 
JJpool said:
There's been a lack of a plan, but also look at the goal the other night, twice we belted it against their players and then they scored from that break away, it was completely preventable and individual mistakes. But also they don't happen as much with confident and well coached players. The lack of a style is the fault of above.
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You really want to start over again? And your assumption si it's going to get better? What if it gets worse and we get another APpleton or Grayson or McCarthy. What makes you think any appointment is going to be any different?
Do what you've always done and you'll get what you've always got.
 
fcblackpool said:
You can only start to blame the players if they fail to execute good tactical planning. You can't begin the blame players not good enough or playing out of position. I wonder if Husband thinks it's a fantastic idea to him to launch 70 yard diagonals from the first minute?
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I'm not sure we're in any kind of postion to address that final point you raise, but I find it hard to believe Mr Husband is simply acting on instructions 'from on high'. There has to be some degree of 'player autonomy' in all this, and, I'm sorry, but for all their limitations (and, yes, we know, there are plenty ... ), do you honestly think the training staff are simply directing the defence, and Jimmy in particular, whenever they find themselves in possession of the ball, to just blindly "launch it forward" to no-one in particular?

Tactically speaking, and it certainly doesn't take a genius to arrive at this conclusion, we are 'all over the place' at the moment. We are witnessing games in which there is no discernable sign of leadership, and also where there is no evidence whatsoever of any kind of game-plan. Players are having to 'think on the hoof' because they simply don't appear to have been given any meaningful directives (hence Jimmy with his '70 yard diagonals') from the 'in-house' training staff.

I hate to use the phrase but, currently, watching the team perform in games these days is like 'watching the blind leading the blind'. There is no sign of purpose or direction to be seen out on the pitch, our players are being led 'a merry dance' by opponents the minute a game has kicked off, and, though it pains me to say it, and I can only judge on appearances, but I get the growing impression certain players are doing little more than 'going through the motions', at best.

I almost feel the club is now at something of a crossroads. After what has been a truly awful season (sorry, but how else do you describe it?), there are clearly major changes needing to be made in the close-season, and this is going to involve difficult decisions having to be made. New faces will appear (both on the playing side, and also behind the scenes), and then, of course, there will also be a sizeable number of personnel heading off to pastures new, and we wish them well - wherever they end up going.

There needs to be something of a sea-change at Blackpool Football Club. The great memories of the recent past are in danger of becoming little more than a fading dream of days gone by, and, sadly, there is increasing evidence of how the feel-good factor that permeated those memorableI times is being replaced with a distinct air of disillusionment and despondency.

Circumstances do change, however, as I'm sure they will in the weeks and months ahead. We just need to see a renewed sense of purpose and direction, brought about by new recruits being brought in, with the express purpose of breathing new life into the club after a period during which it appeared to be undergoing something of an identity crisis. Basically, all I am asking, is that whoever these individuals turn out to be, they really do need to step up to the plate.

Upwards and onwards.
 
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It could suggest whatever people want it to suggest and so if you’re already somewhat ‘anti-Critchley’, then you’ll inevitably gravitate towards an answer that confirms your own bias.

Coaching is certainly one potential answer. However it could be something as simple as confidence. It could also be a combination of different individual factors.
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If it was confidence it would show in our home form with the pressure of an expectant crowd. If you are a supporter with a mind that Critchley is being let down by his players, it’s still his job to correct that with kicks up the backside as necessary. Which is plainly not happening either IMO.
 
tarantula said:
do you honestly think the training staff are simply directing the defence, and Jimmy in particular, whenever they find themselves in possession of the ball, to just blindly "launch it forward" to no-one in particular?
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If it isn’t condoned, why isn’t it being stopped and Jimmy deselected for disobeying the fluid tiki-taka Critchball game plan drills?
 
clappers said:
If it was confidence it would show in our home form with the pressure of an expectant crowd. If you are a supporter with a mind that Critchley is being let down by his players, it’s still his job to correct that with kicks up the backside as necessary. Which is plainly not happening either IMO.
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I'm not sure that you can draw that conclusion about confidence really... It would be perfectly plausible to suffer confidence issues away from home, whilst being unaffected at home and of course, the longer the away form continues, the more it would reinforce the problem.

That's not to say that it isn't ultimately an issue that the Manager himself would need to take responsibility for in any case. He's had long enough now to get his house in order and to start producing... OK, it's possible that we may need to offload a few players who maybe have wanted out since our relegation (that can cause a bit of a potential hangover) and perhaps we need a few more in, but even so... The results away from home should have been addressed by now.
 
clappers said:
If it isn’t condoned, why isn’t it being stopped and Jimmy deselected for disobeying the fluid tiki-taka Critchball game plan drills?
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Because, surely, if he deselects Jimmy for such flagrant disobedience, how does he justify failing to mete out the same punishment to his (Jimmy's) 10 remaining team-mates for the same transgression - i.e. disobeying the fluid tiki-taka Critchall game plan drills? Go on - answer me that!
 
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