Splitting the fan base yet again!

Thinking about it how much money has he made in 12 months? Paid out from villa, paid out from qpr, new 4 year contract from us.... set him up for life!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Our idiot fans will always find a reason to moan. Best policy moving forward is to ignore them…Hopefully Simon has learned his lesson and there’ll be no more molly coddling of supporters.
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Has he ever molly coddled us? The majority of his appointments have been divisive at this point:
Grayson, Appleton and Critchley 2.0

That's 3 out of 5. Critchley 1.0 was even met with scepticism, McCarthy was the only one appointed that generated mostly positivity.

We even got a telling off for not liking Appleton, he's more akin to the strict "my way or the highway" parent at this point, rather than the over protective molly coddling type. That can definitely be a good thing (a good dictatorship is better than a bad democracy sort of thing), but his track record isn't doing too great at the minute - I think it's fair this appointment is being met criticism.

I hope it's the right appointment anyway, even though I'm not happy with it. It does feel at times like some are more happy whinging, than their football club doing well.
 
Absolute joke ………… it’s through his actions that we are where we are …….. I don’t know who is advising Sadler but who ever it is should be sacked ! 3 out of 4 managers appointed by Sadler have been previous Blackpool managers all of which have failed ……. will they ever learn second time around managers more often than not fail for a second time !
For me the way he left shows his lack of integrity as a man and I believe like Appleton’s appointment will split the fans , the way he left was worse than Appleton because he had to put with Oystons and had good reason to go , where Critchley had the boards and supporters backing and. 4 year contract. He failed at Villa and at QPR so not a good track record away from Blackpool ,I just hope this is not yet another poor management decision which could to the slippery slide through the leagues again !
I hope I’m proven wrong because as always I want success for BFC .
UTMP
 
Progressfan said:
Absolute joke ………… it’s through his actions that we are where we are …….. I don’t know who is advising Sadler but who ever it is should be sacked ! 3 out of 4 managers appointed by Sadler have been previous Blackpool managers all of which have failed ……. will they ever learn second time around managers more often than not fail for a second time !
For me the way he left shows his lack of integrity as a man and I believe like Appleton’s appointment will split the fans , the way he left was worse than Appleton because he had to put with Oystons and had good reason to go , where Critchley had the boards and supporters backing and. 4 year contract. He failed at Villa and at QPR so not a good track record away from Blackpool ,I just hope this is not yet another poor management decision which could to the slippery slide through the leagues again !
I hope I’m proven wrong because as always I want success for BFC .
UTMP
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Sadler hired an external search firm to assist with this manager hire and they recommended NC.

Calm down, NC is a great appointment.

Any other manager who got a club promoted from L1 and then safely kept them up in the Champ would be at the top of our list.
 
Long-shanks said:
Appleton last summer and now Quitchley. Regardless of which side you sit on the fence it ain't good when supporters are already divided!
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It's nothing like Appleton tbf, he'd never done anything for us.

NC got us promoted and kept us up, then left and didn't say goodbye, should have but ahh well.

He's no ex nobber, didn't ditch us for a local rival, he went for probably many times more wages and we all would do the same.
 
FLATBACKFOR said:
Im sure these morons will get over this and support the club, is'nt that what football supporters do !
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Who are the 'morons' you rudely refer to?
Are these not also fellow BFC supporters, some over many many years? Are they not entitled to their opinion? Must their opinion accord with yours for them to be worth listening to?
No poster has said they don't support the club (that's your warped interpretation) they merely disagree with Critchley's appointment & have every right to say so.
Peoples views don't irritate or annoy me, it's those who seek to control the debate that do.
 
Long-shanks said:
Thinking about it how much money has he made in 12 months? Paid out from villa, paid out from qpr, new 4 year contract from us.... set him up for life!
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No wonder he was looking so pleased with himself. The bit about the wife wanting him out of the house, she probably meant go get yourself another job, then get peddled again.😁
 
A lot of Pool's success under Critchley was the feel good and togetherness he promoted between him, players and fans and I'm not sure if that can happen again now.
I loved him before and really want to again. A good start to the season might do it.
 
The worst season I can ever remember watching the Pool last year we watched a lot of rubbish.
In my humble opinion Critch is the best man for the job he brings a lot to the table and I'm looking forward to next season.
I'm pleased SD is staying on and his day will come again of that we can be certain.
We know NC will have fans who won't agree with the appointment after how he left us but that was then and this is now.
Well done Simon
 
Martonmosser said:
In any business you don’t ignore your customers
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That depends… I suspect if your customers told you to relocate your business to Preston, you’d probably ignore them. It’s one thing dealing with genuine issues, but our fanbase are a bunch of whinging wannabes, who seem to think they know best about literally everything….

Like I say, Sadler needs to just ignore them and switch off to it all as it’s distracting him from focusing on the important stuff 👍
 
Martonmosser said:
In any business you don’t ignore your customers
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Sadler can't be expected to pay lip-service to the Stone Islanders in their early 40s, and the ones who put anti-social behaviour and aggression at the top of their list of priorities when attending a football match.
Blackpool have plenty of these bell-ends, the old-school clowns who try to influence the newbies, the drunk foul-mouthed weed-smokers who have no regard for society in general. Aside from supporting the same club, the majority of fans want them out and want nothing to do with them. The flare-throwing, vape-tossing mob who don't give a shit - they aren't customers, they're a stain on the name of Blackpool FC.
 
Tbf it's not split as much as I thought or feared, he's apologised, it was a decent interview, good to hear from SS too.

People who were upset will realise its nothing like Appleton being appointed eho had done nothing good here.

At least NC did very well here, just left for way more cash at a far bigger club in the prem and didn't say bye, or wasn't allowed to do certain things it seems. Either way he's said as much.

What is didn't mean, like some idiots say, is that oh it all meant nothing last time and he lied, pretended to love the club etc.

The reason many were so upset is because they did like him so much.

He's back now, if he can get us winning and get us promoted again, but woth fans in attendance, that would be very special.
 
It’s a bloody good job there no AVFTT. Seasiders podcast, Lee Charles or any social media around when the likes of Worthington, Megson. Hendry and many, many others were appointed. Back in the day our meltdowns were confined to Boddington pubs. Who in the right effing mind would not renew a ST based on the imp playing youths at the Posh, doubling (?) his salary at Villa, taking time out in November etc etc. He’s now got a bit of time to assess the squad including Stewarts fitness (joking) and regroup ready for an attack in League One. We are the Pool and we’re going up. End of.
 
I am pleasantly surprised how little serious dissent there is at his appointment. Good coach, poor leaving. However, he's here, it's our club and there is no alternative for us but to wish him well, get behind the team, and support. Early appointment, lots of time to plan, choose players, make offers, a full pre season. I hope Simon has given him a decent budget, and I hope he has already identified the odd Keogh style old pro.

We have been here longer than any manager, and will be here long after he has gone. UTMP
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Sadler hired an external search firm to assist with this manager hire and they recommended NC.

Calm down, NC is a great appointment.

Any other manager who got a club promoted from L1 and then safely kept them up in the Champ would be at the top of our list.
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“an external search firm” I hope you are joking 🙃 😂
 
TangerinePeel said:
Has he ever molly coddled us? The majority of his appointments have been divisive at this point:
Grayson, Appleton and Critchley 2.0

That's 3 out of 5. Critchley 1.0 was even met with scepticism, McCarthy was the only one appointed that generated mostly positivity.

We even got a telling off for not liking Appleton, he's more akin to the strict "my way or the highway" parent at this point, rather than the over protective molly coddling type. That can definitely be a good thing (a good dictatorship is better than a bad democracy sort of thing), but his track record isn't doing too great at the minute - I think it's fair this appointment is being met criticism.

I hope it's the right appointment anyway, even though I'm not happy with it. It does feel at times like some are more happy whinging, than their football club doing well.
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Grayson wasn't divisive, not sure Critchley is.
 
I think the "split" is a misnomer, we didn't want Appleton because he had no pedigree at championship level and was a completely underwhelming appointment. The way the board spun it into some emotional divide was insulting to me, we're not idiots (well....)

Critchley on the other hand has very recent experience in doing exactly what we need to do at the exact level we're currently at. He was an assistant at Villa and did not get enough time at QPR who then went on to be even more terrible under Ainsworth.

It's a welcome back for me, because i'm not 13.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Grayson wasn't divisive, not sure Critchley is.
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Plenty weren't impressed with the Grayson appointment and as soon as we didn't start doing well the fans turned on him as it wasn't a popular appointment in the first place. Appleton was a similar situation, except he was even more unpopular than Grayson.

People won't have patience with Critchley either if we have a rough patch. I'd go as far to say it's more polarising than the previous two mentioned based on the reaction from here and twitter, seems most are on either extreme of the opinion scale - either buzzing or fuming.

Hopefully he hits the ground running so it doesn't turn toxic. It'll be even worse this time round IMO if it happened, as people will turn on Sadler as well as Critchley.
 
TangerinePeel said:
Plenty weren't impressed with the Grayson appointment and as soon as we didn't start doing well the fans turned on him as it wasn't a popular appointment in the first place. Appleton was a similar situation, except he was even more unpopular than Grayson.

People won't have patience with Critchley either if we have a rough patch. I'd go as far to say it's more polarising than the previous two mentioned based on the reaction from here and twitter, seems most are on either extreme of the opinion scale - either buzzing or fuming.

Hopefully he hits the ground running so it doesn't turn toxic. It'll be even worse this time round IMO if it happened, as people will turn on Sadler as well as Critchley.
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Certain sections will turn on any manager if results are poor, same as any club, if Dobbie struggled people would want him gone. Conversely, Appleton would have been accepted with open arms had he kept winning, but he was crap and the results were crap.

There's no loyalty and it works both ways.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Certain sections will turn on any manager if results are poor, same as any club, if Dobbie struggled people would ssnt him gone.

There's no loyalty and it works both ways.
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Completely agree, there is definitely levels to the patience some will be afforded though. Grayson and Appleton weren't afforded any because they weren't popular appointments and same will happen for Critchley, it just puts more pressure on him to get it right and quickly. I reckon even if he loses his first game he'll get boo'd.

It's a fickle game and if he gets off to a good start, he'll be fist pumping the North and no-one will give a fuck about leaving without a word. I'm not super happy with the appointment but I'm willing to see how he does, I'm not sure others who aren't happy will give him time though!
 
FYForesight said:
Sadler can't be expected to pay lip-service to the Stone Islanders in their early 40s, and the ones who put anti-social behaviour and aggression at the top of their list of priorities when attending a football match.
Blackpool have plenty of these bell-ends, the old-school clowns who try to influence the newbies, the drunk foul-mouthed weed-smokers who have no regard for society in general. Aside from supporting the same club, the majority of fans want them out and want nothing to do with them. The flare-throwing, vape-tossing mob who don't give a shit - they aren't customers, they're a stain on the name of Blackpool FC.
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I think of all the posts I’ve read on here today, yours are the most anti-social and aggressive. You are a complete nutter if you believe the nonsense you post. I don’t fit the criteria you portray, but be clear on this, it’s not just our fans in the North Stand that have misgivings about the appointment.

By the way, whilst our younger fans may have some issues to address, they have been superb.

How are you encouraging fans to come together with your various insults?
 
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Tangerinemoss said:
I am pleasantly surprised how little serious dissent there is at his appointment. Good coach, poor leaving. However, he's here, it's our club and there is no alternative for us but to wish him well, get behind the team, and support. Early appointment, lots of time to plan, choose players, make offers, a full pre season. I hope Simon has given him a decent budget, and I hope he has already identified the odd Keogh style old pro.

We have been here longer than any manager, and will be here long after he has gone. UTMP
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There's a bit of moaning for some, but on the whole, the reaction difference to Appleton is night and day, and so it should be, as Critch did very well here, Appleton did nothing.

Even though that Appleton reaction was way ott.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I think of all the posts I’ve read on here today, yours are the most anti-social and aggressive. You are a complete nutter if you believe the nonsense you post. I don’t fit the criteria you portray, but be clear on this, it’s not just our fans in the North Stand that have misgivings about the appointment.

By the way, whilst our younger fans may have some issues to address, they have been superb.

How are you encouraging fans to come together with your various insults?
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I never said you fit the criteria. Fact remains, there's a hardcore of fans, particularly in the North Stand, who have no idea how to behave.
Am i wrong?
 
FYForesight said:
I never said you fit the criteria. Fact remains, there's a hardcore of fans, particularly in the North Stand, who have no idea how to behave.
Am i wrong?
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On another thread I suggested you think about the irony of what you post. On this one, about division, you post the most divisive comments I’ve come across.

Your generalisation of our fans, I’m guessing those younger than you, is extreme. No, I don’t agree that we have a hardcore that have no idea how to behave. To single out the North lacks rationality and judgement.

I sit in the South, but with my 17 year-old I have been around the younger fans at away games. They are what gives the team the edge. They spend their money on following our team. Some need to behave better, but you cannot generalise as you have done. My lad is passionate but is never in trouble. That applies to the majority of our younger fans. Without them, we have no future.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
On another thread I suggested you think about the irony of what you post. On this one, about division, you post the most divisive comments I’ve come across.

Your generalisation of our fans, I’m guessing those younger than you, is extreme. No, I don’t agree that we have a hardcore that have no idea how to behave. To single out the North lacks rationality and judgement.

I sit in the South, but with my 17 year-old I have been around the younger fans at away games. They are what gives the team the edge. They spend their money on following our team. Some need to behave better, but you cannot generalise as you have done. My lad is passionate but is never in trouble. That applies to the majority of our younger fans. Without them, we have no future.
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NC used to fist-pump the North Stand. They're the ones who are hurting because he left to get a better paid job at a far bigger club - and they're the ones who'll most likely boo him when we play next. The North Stand DOES have a hardcore of idiots and yobs. If you can't see that, then that's your problem. The club are well aware of it.
 
FYForesight said:
NC used to fist-pump the North Stand. They're the ones who are hurting because he left to get a better paid job at a far bigger club - and they're the ones who'll most likely boo him when we play next. The North Stand DOES have a hardcore of idiots and yobs. If you can't see that, then that's your problem. The club are well aware of it.
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I hated his fist-pumping and also the way he hid after a poor performance. I had no problems with him leaving, because I found his brand of football boring.

By the way, the loudest booing comes from the West and generally that’s where the empty seats are when things aren’t going so well.

You’re obsessed with the youth and North stand, and the image you have that it’s full of yobs. Like all of society there will be good & bad, but the vast majority of our fans are good people. Try to be more rational.
 
FYForesight said:
I agree that the vast majority of our fans are great people. But the dicks congregate in the North - that's a fact.
Not sure what you're actually arguing about?
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It’s about perspective and personally you come across as a right dick. However, I wouldn’t generalise that everyone in your stand has the same bizarre opinions as you.

By the way I’m not arguing, you are, and you’re getting angry in the process.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Sadler hired an external search firm to assist with this manager hire and they recommended NC.

Calm down, NC is a great appointment.

Any other manager who got a club promoted from L1 and then safely kept them up in the Champ would be at the top of our list.
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What like those so called consultants they keep getting in at work, that charge the earth to tell you what really you already knew. Critchley probably was the one with the best credentials & if they tried to get him back when Appleton was potted I wonder why he didn't say yes then? could it be he didn't want a relegation on his watch. I'm definitely disappointed rightly or wrongly with this & it put's immense pressure on him to get off to a flyer. Oh well nowt I can do about it.
 
JJpool said:
Tbf it's not split as much as I thought or feared, he's apologised, it was a decent interview, good to hear from SS too.

People who were upset will realise its nothing like Appleton being appointed eho had done nothing good here.

At least NC did very well here, just left for way more cash at a far bigger club in the prem and didn't say bye, or wasn't allowed to do certain things it seems. Either way he's said as much.

What is didn't mean, like some idiots say, is that oh it all meant nothing last time and he lied, pretended to love the club etc.

The reason many were so upset is because they did like him so much.

He's back now, if he can get us winning and get us promoted again, but woth fans in attendance, that would be very special.
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Oh it’s split alright, I’ve had messages from 4 different Pool supporters tonight, none of them post on here and I was certain they’d be happy with the news but all 4 are fuming and don’t want him back.

That is my main concern, Sadler who I still think hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing could have chosen someone that all supporters would get behind but yet again he has chosen someone who is going to be disliked by a fair proportion of the support, even if it’s only 20% that wil cause some damage and if he starts badly he isn’t going to have much leeway before 20 becomes 40 and so on.

He was t my first choice Wellens or Dobbie were but I will support Quitchley, I’m certainly not one of the 20%. Ut I think Sadler has misread the room again and if it goes wrong or he doesn’t support him then supporters will turn on him.

Let’s hope we don’t come to that but don’t dismiss it just because you can’t comprehend t and why this pathetic vitriol towards fellow supporters who have a different opinion to you.
 
JJpool said:
There's a bit of moaning for some, but on the whole, the reaction difference to Appleton is night and day, and so it should be, as Critch did very well here, Appleton did nothing.

Even though that Appleton reaction was way ott.
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I was flabbergasted & dismayed when after all the positivity over a young hungry coach they thought Appleton was the answer, in spite of all that I gave him the benefit of the doubt for much longer than I should have. I'll do the same with Critchley. But I don't think Sadler knows what he's doing still.
 
“Didn’t he put QPR into freefall?”
“Why do you keep hiring old managers?”
“He always seemed to be blaming the players post match”

Observations form non-pool workmates when I told them who we’d appointed
 
Need one of those Men In Black flashy things pointed towards the North Stand next time he attempts a fist pump / badge kiss. 😁
 
Although he kept us up in his last season, we lost five and won two of last nine games, getting thrashed by Posh in last game, hardly inspiring. The writing was on wall, maybe?
 
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