Starmer - idiot or just thick?

Don’t worry, it’s all costed and if we need to do anything else, we’ll just say, don’t worry, it’s all costed. We’ll spend, spend, spend
 
Markobfc said:
Starmer,,, Hold my drink.... its going to be a total shit show. 15 minute cities,
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There is nothing more bizarre going on in the world right now than the conspiracy theorists freakout at the possibility that urban planners think it could be good for people to be able to walk to places.
 
Matesrates said:
Peanuts for Labour, you can double that when they get in, which they will. I can’t believe we don’t have a credible party that would interest me
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Can you point me to all the years Labour had a budget deficit equivalent to 10.8% of the GDP which you have just stated they will have going forward.
 
foggy said:
Can you point me to all the years Labour had a budget deficit equivalent to 10.8% of the GDP which you have just stated they will have going forward.
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Can you point me to when labour had a pandemic followed by a war in Europe, no one can compare one party or another in a particular era. It’s pretty well known that the tories favour low taxes and labour favour tax and spend. Who knows which is right, but none of it impacts the little guy, their lot is bad no matter who is in power
 
Matesrates said:
Can you point me to when labour had a pandemic followed by a war in Europe, no one can compare one party or another in a particular era. It’s pretty well known that the tories favour low taxes and labour favour tax and spend. Who knows which is right, but none of it impacts the little guy, their lot is bad no matter who is in power
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Excuse me, you said "you can double [last year's deficit] when they get in". Could you provide historical evidence that supports your claim that Labour double the deficit left for them by the Conservatives? Didnt the budget deficit go from a surplus to a ~6% defificit per GDP under Ted Heath in the early 70s before falling once Harold Wilson got in power? Didn't the defifict come back and begin to grow violenty in the early to mid 90s under the last years of Thatcher and John Major before starting to fall again and continuing to fall into a surplus under Tony Blair in the early 00s?
 
Matesrates said:
Can you point me to when labour had a pandemic followed by a war in Europe, no one can compare one party or another in a particular era. It’s pretty well known that the tories favour low taxes and labour favour tax and spend. Who knows which is right, but none of it impacts the little guy, their lot is bad no matter who is in power
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What about a world wide banking crisis?

And we botched the handling of the pandemic by using cronies to supply PPE rather than spend less on professional equipment.
 
foggy said:
Let's say this is true. I mean, I am highly sceptical because you can't even say who the 'expert' was. But let's say you are quoting correctly. Do you have any intellectual curiousity in you to think about that more? Do a bit of fact checking perhaps? Wonder if you are comparing apples to oranges? For example counting the cost of housing a migrant but not counting the cost of housing a homeless British resident on top of the benefits they get in cash? Will you amend your opinion now that it has been pointed out there are many exemptions to the cap you mentioned?
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Ben Habib
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Ben Habib
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Since you decided to make an appeal to authority could you please explain how Ben Habib is an 'expert' on immigration.

As expected I looked up Ben Habib and the 50k claim and, presuming this is accurate, it is referring to the cost of housing aslyum seekers, not referring the the amount of benefits they recieve. An apples to oranges claim that takes about 3 seconds of thinking to debunk. A british person is not 'capped' at less than this, as you claimed.
 
foggy said:
Excuse me, you said "you can double [last year's deficit] when they get in". Could you provide historical evidence that supports your claim that Labour double the deficit left for them by the Conservatives? Didnt the budget deficit go from a surplus to a ~6% defificit per GDP under Ted Heath in the early 70s before falling once Harold Wilson got in power? Didn't the defifict come back and begin to grow violenty in the early to mid 90s under the last years of Thatcher and John Major before starting to fall again and continuing to fall into a surplus under Tony Blair in the early 00s?
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As I said, I have no confidence in any of the current crop of so called MPs and obviously I can’t provide evidence, no more than anyone can. It’s generally accepted that Labour are tax/spend and the tories are low tax/grow the economy. They haven’t been able to do that for obvious reasons.
 
Matesrates said:
As I said, I have no confidence in any of the current crop of so called MPs and obviously I can’t provide evidence, no more than anyone can. It’s generally accepted that Labour are tax/spend and the tories are low tax/grow the economy. They haven’t been able to do that for obvious reasons.
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Actually you can produce evidence because the history of the UK deficit and debt is publically available data. This isn't some mystic ethereal figure, it's just what the UK spends vs what the UK brings in and it's written in ink every budget. You see, I actually bothered to look up and use this data rather than just saying 'some people generally think this so now I think it too'
 
foggy said:
Actually you can produce evidence because the history of the UK deficit and debt is publically available data. This isn't some mystic ethereal figure, it's just what the UK spends vs what the UK brings in and it's written in ink every budget. You see, I actually bothered to look up and use this data rather than just saying 'some people generally think this so now I think it too'
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Bully for you
 
Markobfc said:
Starmer,,, Hold my drink.... its going to be a total shit show. 15 minute cities, More ULEZ, More tax, More immigration and loss of business... I can hardly wait
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It's the price we pay for us and our forefathers ruining the atmosphere. I'd rather the future generations have a better planet to live on.
 
Matesrates said:
Can you point me to when labour had a pandemic followed by a war in Europe, no one can compare one party or another in a particular era. It’s pretty well known that the tories favour low taxes and labour favour tax and spend. Who knows which is right, but none of it impacts the little guy, their lot is bad no matter who is in power
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And yet the Tories have achieved the highest ever tax take, with nothing positive to show for it.
 
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