Sunderland. They just don't get it even now.

Lytham_fy8

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Ah man that documentary made me hate them so much...

'Greatest fans in the world like' *camera cuts to overhead shot of a 2/3rds empty stadium*

They'll fuck up in the semis.
 

Camberwell1

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It looks like half the posts are stolen from our site and the rest are deluded

I liked the comment about Bristol R not being able to beat an egg let alone us

Well Mackem boys, we’ve lost 2 in 20, have a better defence than you, won more matches than you and just beaten you the twice !

keep respecting the teams in your Division
 

RokerDaze

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Don't let half a dozen daft comments represent our fan base. Most know we are now a L1 team with L1 players. People posting like this, probably on most fan sites, are more than likely the same ones who have watched about 3 games all season and maybe a few episodes of Quest.

The majority of Sunderland supporters have adopted gallows humour for a long time now. Perhaps the most amusing was on a podcast about how even Coventry, without a ground and in constant financial turmoil, could get out of this league. Closely followed by Luton's success after near bankruptcy and a stint in the Conference before two successive promotions, when we failed yet again. It is our destiny to contribute to the madness that is League one football.

There's no doubt we are sick of it, but most of the other clubs still see us as a scalp or a cup final. This may have added to our woes. Most SAFC fans had embraced the situation and respected it. Can't say we have always been met with welcoming arms though. Both Pompey and Coventry decided we were their new derby match !? We are basically a new football club, like yoursleves, after a total financial meltdown. Some just can't accept it, which I guess is half understandable.
 

Simonized

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Don't let half a dozen daft comments represent our fan base. Most know we are now a L1 team with L1 players. People posting like this, probably on most fan sites, are more than likely the same ones who have watched about 3 games all season and maybe a few episodes of Quest.

The majority of Sunderland supporters have adopted gallows humour for a long time now. Perhaps the most amusing was on a podcast about how even Coventry, without a ground and in constant financial turmoil, could get out of this league. Closely followed by Luton's success after near bankruptcy and a stint in the Conference before two successive promotions, when we failed yet again. It is our destiny to contribute to the madness that is League one football.

There's no doubt we are sick of it, but most of the other clubs still see us as a scalp or a cup final. This may have added to our woes. Most SAFC fans had embraced the situation and respected it. Can't say we have always been met with welcoming arms though. Both Pompey and Coventry decided we were their new derby match !? We are basically a new football club, like yoursleves, after a total financial meltdown. Some just can't accept it, which I guess is half understandable.
Good read 👍
 

Fylde Seasider

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Don't let half a dozen daft comments represent our fan base. Most know we are now a L1 team with L1 players. People posting like this, probably on most fan sites, are more than likely the same ones who have watched about 3 games all season and maybe a few episodes of Quest.

The majority of Sunderland supporters have adopted gallows humour for a long time now. Perhaps the most amusing was on a podcast about how even Coventry, without a ground and in constant financial turmoil, could get out of this league. Closely followed by Luton's success after near bankruptcy and a stint in the Conference before two successive promotions, when we failed yet again. It is our destiny to contribute to the madness that is League one football.

There's no doubt we are sick of it, but most of the other clubs still see us as a scalp or a cup final. This may have added to our woes. Most SAFC fans had embraced the situation and respected it. Can't say we have always been met with welcoming arms though. Both Pompey and Coventry decided we were their new derby match !? We are basically a new football club, like yoursleves, after a total financial meltdown. Some just can't accept it, which I guess is half understandable.
Jesus the one fan who acknowledges that Sunderland are what they are still thinks they are the big scalp, a cup final etc. To me they are another League 1 team that I want my team to beat. 🤡
 

RokerDaze

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Jesus the one fan who acknowledges that Sunderland are what they are still thinks they are the big scalp, a cup final etc. To me they are another League 1 team that I want my team to beat. 🤡
If you read it closer, it says most other clubs think we are some kind of cup final or scalp. They at least enjoy playing at the SOL or visiting as fans . So in effect, we don't see ourselves as a scalp, but some others do. That can't be helped. There is definitely a narrative from some that we are somehow arrogant or entitled to play in a higher league. Ofcourse we have a percentage who will be like that, as plenty of other clubs do too.
 

Seasideforever

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I read the Sunderland match threads quite often and the do have a very funny gallows humour on there,I can only think they also feel the same as I felt when we were in league 2 so iv no problem with them at all,I’m just looking foreward to beating them again 👍🏻
 

Stony Hill

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It looks like half the posts are stolen from our site and the rest are deluded

I liked the comment about Bristol R not being able to beat an egg let alone us

Well Mackem boys, we’ve lost 2 in 20, have a better defence than you, won more matches than you and just beaten you the twice !

keep respecting the teams in your Division
I know where you’re coming from but “better defence”? They have conceded fewer than us and lost fewer matches. On the other hand, it’s a different story once we put our season on the front boiler! 🍻👏🥴
 

BlackpoolPuma

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Don't let half a dozen daft comments represent our fan base. Most know we are now a L1 team with L1 players. People posting like this, probably on most fan sites, are more than likely the same ones who have watched about 3 games all season and maybe a few episodes of Quest.

The majority of Sunderland supporters have adopted gallows humour for a long time now. Perhaps the most amusing was on a podcast about how even Coventry, without a ground and in constant financial turmoil, could get out of this league. Closely followed by Luton's success after near bankruptcy and a stint in the Conference before two successive promotions, when we failed yet again. It is our destiny to contribute to the madness that is League one football.

There's no doubt we are sick of it, but most of the other clubs still see us as a scalp or a cup final. This may have added to our woes. Most SAFC fans had embraced the situation and respected it. Can't say we have always been met with welcoming arms though. Both Pompey and Coventry decided we were their new derby match !? We are basically a new football club, like yoursleves, after a total financial meltdown. Some just can't accept it, which I guess is half understandable.
I think that’s totally fair.
 

Charliecleanstonysheens

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If you read it closer, it says most other clubs think we are some kind of cup final or scalp. They at least enjoy playing at the SOL or visiting as fans . So in effect, we don't see ourselves as a scalp, but some others do. That can't be helped. There is definitely a narrative from some that we are somehow arrogant or entitled to play in a higher league. Ofcourse we have a percentage who will be like that, as plenty of other clubs do too.
It's a pleasure having you on here, your informed views are appreciated by most of us. Good luck in the playoffs' , but hopefully not at our expense !!!!!!!!
 

heapster

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Having lived up here halfway between the mags and the mackems for nearly 30 years I prefer the mackems anyday. For deluded ideas of grandeur head along to Sid James Park as they take some beating! Every mackem I know realise how sh!te they are but all of them have paid no attention to the mighty seasiders breathing down their necks.

There is no getting away from it - they are a big club with a great stadium and infrastructure, a tight fanatical fanbase that can fill a 40,000 stadium and when its full its absolutely jumping (I've been there for derby games and when Quinn and Philips destroyed Chelsea 4-0 - one of the best atmospheres I've ever seen).

For a while now I've thought it would end up us against the mackems in the play offs - it'll be an interesting afternoon round here!!!
 

straightatthewall

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If you read it closer, it says most other clubs think we are some kind of cup final or scalp. They at least enjoy playing at the SOL or visiting as fans . So in effect, we don't see ourselves as a scalp, but some others do. That can't be helped. There is definitely a narrative from some that we are somehow arrogant or entitled to play in a higher league. Ofcourse we have a percentage who will be like that, as plenty of other clubs do too.
Roker,

some good comments from you on this thread. One thing I'd say is that you aren't shite. You're going to be in the play off picture for this season and have as much chance of getting up as the other 3 clubs. The point that (I suspect) many of your fellow Mackems don't get, is that you're now in League 1 and this is what League 1 is. Your players are League 1 players and they play at League 1 standard. Which if you're used to the PL or even Championship, looks shite. But they aren't shite for League 1 - as results show.

It's all about getting realistic about your circumstances and then building from there. I'm sure there's still plenty about who say things like 'he's not good enough for Sunderland' or words of that ilk, whereas the correct point is whether a player is good enough for League 1...

Good luck to you. Obviously I hope you're successfully promoted out of League 1 next season and we get to visit the SoL a couple of seasons later when you join us in the Premier League... 😉
 

coppiceman

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All clubs have fans like that, including us.

If I were them I would be worried about their form and lack of momentum. But the lack of crowds might be good for them. I think its hard to pick a playoff winner meself.
 

Schalke_FY4

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My major concern is that Simon Sadler will likely be at the Play Off games and his record watching us live isn't great - he's obviously a jinx and should stay away 🤣
 

Camberwell1

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I know where you’re coming from but “better defence”? They have conceded fewer than us and lost fewer matches. On the other hand, it’s a different story once we put our season on the front boiler! 🍻👏🥴
Sorry to be pedantic Stony - we have conceded 4 less than Sunderland (us 37, them 41) - we have the same number of goals conceded as Hull

which means I was right in saying g o ur defence today is better than theirs 👍
 

Stony Hill

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Sorry to be pedantic Stony - we have conceded 4 less than Sunderland (us 37, them 41) - we have the same number of goals conceded as Hull

which means I was right in saying g o ur defence today is better than theirs 👍
Yes, you’ve caught me out on goals conceded. I have them the wrong way round. However, they have only lost 9 games and us 12. Call it a draw, eh?
 

Tangojoe

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"Lincoln are the best side in play offs. They have been up there all season and our last two games were 1.1 draws and close games. I know Blackpool beat us twice recently but I think they are pretty shite"

I've never seen fans of a team that's so woefully limited but still confident they can beat us. They have a couple of good players but play like headless chickens.

Looks very much like 2010 when we beat Forest 4 times and they still thought they were the better side.
 
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In the net

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They’re an odd lot. You’d think after 2 seasons it would sink in that they’re actually at this level based on merit. It took Portsmouth a few years to work it out too. Hopefully Lincoln, Portsmouth or us give them another reality check in the semi’s.
But they are on Netflix telling us all how good they are 🤣🤣🤣
 

Aero

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I'd like Sunderland in the final, if we get there.
They're already speaking to big name players such as Jermaine Defoe.
What a motivation for the present squad to say bollox to pulling my tripe out, make sure we lose and I'll still have a club next season in league 1.
 

Davepick

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As I read down the Sunderland posts I noticed that, as far as I got, none of them mentioned that Pool had beaten them 1-0 on both league meetings. 😃
 

Bottle

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As I read down the Sunderland posts I noticed that, as far as I got, none of them mentioned that Pool had beaten them 1-0 on both league meetings. 😃
Don’t forget, we once beat the biggest club in the world 4 times in one season and lifted a trophy!

League Division 2 01 Nov 2003
Sheffield Wednesday v Blackpool 0-1

League Division 2 10 Feb 2004
Blackpool v Sheffield Wednesday 1-0

LDV Vans Trophy 25 Feb 2004
Sheffield Wednesday v Blackpool 0-2

LDV Vans Trophy 17 Apr 2004
Blackpool v Sheffield Wednesday 4-1
 

SAFC

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As I read down the Sunderland posts I noticed that, as far as I got, none of them mentioned that Pool had beaten them 1-0 on both league meetings. 😃
We all know you beat us home and away but let's be fair it was fine margins, enough for either side to feel confident in a playoff situation. To me the 4 teams in there will be pretty equal, no standout team.

Vast majority of us know we're not very good either, if anything I'd say there is more confidence on your forum than ours.
 

Scaramanga

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We all know you beat us home and away but let's be fair it was fine margins, enough for either side to feel confident in a playoff situation. To me the 4 teams in there will be pretty equal, no standout team.

Vast majority of us know we're not very good either, if anything I'd say there is more confidence on your forum than ours.
I agree, I spoke with a Mackem pal of mine and both agreed that there wasn’t much between us both. Fine margins indeed. I think the expectation element is always too high from your lot whereas I don’t think as a fan group we expect to win very often. But the confidence on this board is down to the incredible journey we have been on even before our home grown saviour pulled us out of the shit and reignited our passion for the club. Best of luck.
 

michellebutterflyhotel

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I agree, I spoke with a Mackem pal of mine and both agreed that there wasn’t much between us both. Fine margins indeed. I think the expectation element is always too high from your lot whereas I don’t think as a fan group we expect to win very often. But the confidence on this board is down to the incredible journey we have been on even before our home grown saviour pulled us out of the shit and reignited our passion for the club. Best of luck.
When we played Sunderland on both occasions we had 8/9 first team players out of the squad with injuries etc
 

Scaramanga

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When we played Sunderland on both occasions we had 8/9 first team players out of the squad with injuries etc
We did indeed, I’m sure Sunderland weren’t at full strength or in particular good form At the time. Fine margins, there were moments especially at their place when we could of lost the game but we didn’t. Sometimes luck smiles on you.
 

Wizzerboy

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"Lincoln are the best side in play offs. They have been up there all season and our last two games were 1.1 draws and close games. I know Blackpool beat us twice recently but I think they are pretty shite"

I've never seen fans of a team that's so woefully limited but still confident they can beat us. They have a couple of good players but play like headless chickens.

Looks very much like 2010 when we beat Forest 4 times and they still thought they were the better side.
Looks very much like 2010 when we beat Forest 4 times and they still thought they were the better side.
Not better over the season but a bigger club than Sunderland nonetheless. A club that counts 2 European (champions league) Cups in their collection, whereas all the NE clubs are full of unfulfilled promise. A lower league trophy a few months back and the fa cup in 73.

A big club? Not even in the top 10
Well supported club? Yes
Big stadium? Yes
Deserve to be in a higher division? Well we'll find out at the end of this seasons playoffs
 

SAFC

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I agree, I spoke with a Mackem pal of mine and both agreed that there wasn’t much between us both. Fine margins indeed. I think the expectation element is always too high from your lot whereas I don’t think as a fan group we expect to win very often. But the confidence on this board is down to the incredible journey we have been on even before our home grown saviour pulled us out of the shit and reignited our passion for the club. Best of luck.
I don't think our expectations are unrealistic, it's taken crazy mismanagement for us to reach a historic low of 3 seasons at this level. We've never spent more than 6 outside the top flight! Although I think that record will go in about 2 seasons time. 😂

But aye I'm pleased to see your ownership sorted, we had bad owners until recently but nowhere near as bad as yours were. Wouldn't wish them on any club, well, maybe one.
 
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