The Bumbling Liar

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Hilarious! In his defence to the Select Committee, he says that Dominic Cummings is not a “credible witness”! Pot and kettle! 🤣
 
He's lying. His lips are moving.

"Why would we have a Downing Street photographer there if we were having a party?" he says.

Because you are a bloated, arrogant, narcissistic, lying buffoon who's only interest in life is self-promotion. It never occurred to you that these photos would see you sitting where you are today.
 
Summary of Johnson's defence - 'I inadvertently misled the house because I am thick as pigshit and didn't realise what was going on around me.'
 
bollieboy said:
Summary of Johnson's defence - 'I inadvertently misled the house because I am thick as pigshit and didn't realise what was going on around me.'
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Yes Guilty or Thick and Stupid. Which is worse?

His best result is probably a bit guilty and a bit naive. Damage limitation only.
 
It does beg a question - who was the biggest liar?

Boris - defending get togethers at No 10 as well as other previous ones published.

Blair - Lied to take the country to war.

Reality is - the latter is far worse for me, but I can’t stand either of them.
 
Boris looked very tetchy today. Not sure he will have done enough to keep the Commitee off his back. Looks increasingly like yesterday’s man.
 
seasideone said:
It does beg a question - who was the biggest liar?

Boris - defending get togethers at No 10 as well as other previous ones published.

Blair - Lied to take the country to war.

Reality is - the latter is far worse for me, but I can’t stand either of them.
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Arguably Boris' behaviour led to a breakdown of any semblance of lockdown as it was obvious that those in charge didn't give a shit about the rules or guidelines.

That led to many additional unnecessary deaths of our friends and family.
 
Wizaard said:
Arguably Boris' behaviour led to a breakdown of any semblance of lockdown as it was obvious that those in charge didn't give a shit about the rules or guidelines.

That led to many additional unnecessary deaths of our friends and family.
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That’s an assumption.

I am not saying you wrong but you do not know that.

The truth is who knows, but both are despicable liars.

…or do you think Blair didn’t take part in a huge lie to take the UK to war?
 
seasideone said:
That’s an assumption.

I am not saying you wrong but you do not know that.

The truth is who knows, but both are despicable liars.

…or do you think Blair didn’t take part in a huge lie to take the UK to war?
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I'm not saying that. You're conflating two completely different issues.

Two wrongs don't make a right, or one PM's behaviour excuse another.
 
Wizaard said:
Arguably Boris' behaviour led to a breakdown of any semblance of lockdown as it was obvious that those in charge didn't give a shit about the rules or guidelines.

That led to many additional unnecessary deaths of our friends and family.
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Very true. Listening to an ex campaign coordinator of Johnson´s on PM yesterday:`` At best Boris has an elastic relationship with the truth``.
 
tangysider said:
Are you the fun police in disguise.
I actually cannot think of a politician I like from any party and Boris comes way down the list, possibly tying with Blair.
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There are lots of honourable politicians across the parties in Parliament. Of course, the many are tainted by the few bad apples. Unfortunately, some of those bad apples have been appointed to high office.
 
Spin chief Lee Cain’s leaving do - where Mr Johnson gave a speech - was the subject of intense questioning.

The communications director’s exit - along with the departure of No10 top aide Dominic Cummings - was triggered by a power struggle with Mr Johnson’s then fiancee Carrie.

The then Prime Minister insisted he needed to be at the November 13, 2020 leaving bash to “steady the ship” and “show there was no rancour”.

"This meeting happened on an impromptu basis, it had to happen,” he said.

"It was necessary because two senior members of staff, the effective chief of staff and director of communications, had both left the building, or were about to leave the building in pretty acrimonious circumstances - or what were potentially acrimonious circumstances.

"It was important for me to be there and to give reassurance."




All of those people whose relatives and friends were in Care Homes and couldn't be given "reassurance", will take a lot of comfort from that.
 
Wizaard said:
Arguably Boris' behaviour led to a breakdown of any semblance of lockdown as it was obvious that those in charge didn't give a shit about the rules or guidelines.

That led to many additional unnecessary deaths of our friends and family.
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Nonsense. Lockdowns killed more people than they saved and, in any case, Boris' behaviour around this stuff wasn't made public until long after all restrictions were removed. Long after you'd returned to the football for example.
 
Precious little support for Boris on Question Time tonight. Only one hand up to help him in the audience, and little help from the panel.
Looks like the Court of Public Opinion has made it’s mind up.
 
And people believed all his lies to the detriment of this country.

220,000 people died through Covid in the UK . Our lack of preparation and early bungling eg delay in lockdown , inefficient test and trace , lack of coherent policy re mask wearing, proper ventilation in schools etc contributed to this. In early 2020 Johnson was missing important meetings re Covid while sorting his divorce/writing book on Shakespeare etc.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I was referring to you comment about lockdown killing more people than it saved.
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There's a wealth of evidence for it. Overwhelming actually. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that loneliness and neglect kill people whereas phone apps and scotch eggs do not do diddly. Clever people like me knew this instinctively but it's good that the social scientists who measure these things have now rubber-stamped my braininess 👍🏻
 
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rockontommy said:
There's a wealth of evidence for it. Overwhelming actually. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that loneliness and neglect kill people whereas phone apps and scotch eggs do not do diddly. Clever people like me knew this instinctively but it's good that the social scientists who measure these things have now rubber-stamped my braininess 👍🏻
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Go on, then, I'll bite. Point me to any peer reviewed evidence of what you are claiming.
 
seasideone said:
It does beg a question - who was the biggest liar?

Boris - defending get togethers at No 10 as well as other previous ones published.

Blair - Lied to take the country to war.

Reality is - the latter is far worse for me, but I can’t stand either of them.
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Blair stupidly bowed & blindly followed Bush’s lead.
 
Whilst not the crime of the century Boris just did what these entitled buggers generally do. Say one thing & do another, when challenged he expected to just say don’t be silly. But as a lawmaker you really need to set an example & a good one at that. He didn’t along with others who clearly thought they were above all this trivia. Stick him in the stocks, tomatoes are soft & don’t break the skin, but the ones I’d throw at him would be still in the tin. 😬
 
The WMD lies were down to Cheney, Rumsfeld and ultimately Colin Powell’s statement to the United Nations (which he deeply regretted for the rest of his life). George W Bush swallowed it whole.

Blair decided that, after 9/11, realpolitik meant aligning the UK as closely as possible with the USA for the “special relationship” to survive (whatever it is worth, and in defence matters we depend crucially on them). So Blair repeated the WMD mantra in the House of Commons, whether he believed it or not. Despite one million people marching through London protesting against the war. RealpolitiK with a capital K.

Contrast that with Harold Wilson who refused to allow British armed forces to join the Vietnam War, despite that (or perhaps because) we had just fought for ten years against similar nationalism in the jungles of the Malayan Emergency.

I don’t think Bozo has a single strategic brain cell in his head. His are all aligned with food, booze, shagging and personal vanity.
 
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Archibald Knox said:
The WMD lies were down to Cheney, Rumsfeld and ultimately Colin Powell’s statement to the United Nations (which he deeply regretted for the rest of his life). George W Bush swallowed it whole.

Blair decided that, after 9/11, realpolitik meant aligning the UK as closely as possible with the USA for the “special relationship” to survive (whatever it is worth, and in defence matters we depend crucially on them). So Blair repeated the WMD mantra in the House of Commons, whether he believed it or not. Despite one million people marching through London protesting against the war.

Contrast that with Harold Wilson who refused to allow British armed forces to join the Vietnam War, despite that we had just fought for ten years against similar nationalism in the jungles of the Malayan Emergency.
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One of the best decisions that Wilson made, and he kept Johnson on side. That is Statecraft.
 
Always tangerine said:
And people believed all his lies to the detriment of this country.

220,000 people died through Covid in the UK . Our lack of preparation and early bungling eg delay in lockdown , inefficient test and trace , lack of coherent policy re mask wearing, proper ventilation in schools etc contributed to this. In early 2020 Johnson was missing important meetings re Covid while sorting his divorce/writing book on Shakespeare etc.
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You missed corruption in the procurement associated with Covid, that's what they should all be facing criminal charges then prison over.

I'm sure I broke hundreds of silly little rules during Covid but I didn't earn a penny out of it.
 
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