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Ginge

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Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
 
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Ginge said:
Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch of actual cnuts who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
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Good post. However, even those who call Sadler fit to burst are still fans. Loose with their criticisms yes but still fans.
 
Thankfully they are an extreme minority. You get these types in every club.

The overwhelming majority seem to be fully behind the club.

At the end of the day BFC has a lot of customers and its impossible to please them all.

No different from any other business with a large customer base. There are always moaners.

Most of them are not serious anyway and simply post controversial stuff to get a run chase.
 
Very good o/p, agree with 99% of it.
Firstly, I'm fully behind SS. After shite owners like Cartmell then the Oystons, I'm pleased we have a "custodian" who has the club's interests and future at heart. He's the best owner in my time supporting the club since the mid 70's. Your statement that we're moving in the right direction is unquestionable imo.

But

This is a football message board, it's therefore quite reasonable to express concerns about recruitment and performances, especially after our recent form and results, and our inability to make permanent signings for various reasons. Whilst I disagree with the minority of posters having a direct pop at SS, the board is one of the places fellow fans can express their various concerns/worries. It's been a long way back to this level (a level I believe we belong), and after all the good work getting here, I don't want to see us go down. To answer a question raised in the o/p, yes results on the pitch are everything, or at least enough to keep us up.
 
two points re the o/p.

the comment re "true" supporters is nonsense. The use of various adjectives tagged to describe supporters is something I don't like at all. We are all fans.

Secondly and with regards to my previous comment then yes results are everything. If we were to be relegated then it's pretty inevitable that our home attendances would drop. Does the o/p'er consider all those who failed to renew their season tickets and others who now go on a match by match basis not to be "true" supporters? Football crowds have generally always been determined by which division a team is in. So there must be millions of fans around the country who are not "true" fans!
 
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Genuine question (and I’d like to think my opinion on SS is pretty clear already) and I’m playing devils advocate here somewhat…

But at what point do we stop judging SS against the particularly low yard stick that was the Oyston regime and instead judge him based on being the owner of a fully functioning, operational, Championship football club ?

I’m very grateful for what SS and his team have done and recognise, seemingly more so than some on here, the realities of the situation he bought into. That being said - he bought the football club with his eyes wide open and as a very successful businessman and a fan himself knew the risk and very public debate that would follow his words and actions. I still personally think there’s plenty of good will due to the man for what he’s done and I’m actually happy with the direction we’re going in off of the field in particular. At some point though (I would have thought), perhaps soon, perhaps in the distant future, he’ll no longer have the protection that comes with simply not being an Oyston.
 
Why do people constantly judge SS by the O's time. They are 2 totally separate stand alone things.

Please if you are going to praise or defend SS do it for what he has done, not because he isn't an oyston. That's plain stupid.

Personally I'm not critical of SS, but I doubt he was instantly successful in his business and no doubt he had to 'learn the ropes'. Well BFC is a new business to him and he's no doubt learning as he goes on. Hopefully he'll address the shitstorm that is recruitment which no doubt he's acutely aware of.
 
Ginge said:
Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch of actual cnuts who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
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I certainly haven't lost me memory

Spent many Saturday afternoons up and down the motorway to protest outside at games, also attended several court cases to support fellow fans as well as being part of direct action protests against the Oyston family

We should never forget what we went through to get the Oystons out

Just because they have now gone it doesn't mean we can't be critical of SS and have to just except what happens

What a shite OP

'Not true supporters'

Idiot .....
 
I certainly haven't lost me memory

Spent many Saturday afternoons up and down the motorway to protest outside at games, also attended several court cases to support fellow fans as well as being part of direct action protests against the Oyston family

We should never forget what we went through to get the Oystons out

Just because they have now gone it doesn't mean we can't be critical of SS and have to just except what happens

What a shite OP

'Not true supporters'

Idiot .....

I stopped reading after the second sentence. 😉
 
20togo said:
two points re the o/p.

the comment re "true" supporters is nonsense. The use of various adjectives tagged to describe supporters is something I don't like at all. We are all fans.

Secondly and with regards to my previous comment then yes results are everything. If we were to be relegated then it's pretty inevitable that our home attendances would drop. Does the o/p'er consider all those who failed to renew their season tickets and others who now go on a match by match basis not to be "true" supporters? Football crowds have generally always been determined by which division a team is in. So there must be millions of fans around the country who are not "true" fans!
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Which ever division we have been in I've always gone home and away, work depending and funds, because there is so much to supporting a great club like Blackpool.
 
Ginge said:
Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch of actual cnuts who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
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Results are temporary, look at the curve from when Sadler took over.
 
I look forward to the time when we can stand toe-to-toe with others as a professionally run club. However, there is still much work for Sadler to do and that, don't forget, is after a season without fans. He"s still worth a lot of slack.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I look forward to the time when we can stand toe-to-toe with others as a professionally run club. However, there is still much work for Sadler to do and that, don't forget, is after a season without fans. He"s still worth a lot of slack.
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Again, every other Club has had a year without fans and it's possible to argue those Clubs with higher spends and who are more gate reliant suffered more than us.
 
fcblackpool said:
Again, every other Club has had a year without fans and it's possible to argue those Clubs with higher spends and who are more gate reliant suffered more than us.
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I'm not disputing that. My point is that when Sadler took the project on he wouldn't have expected to have to fund the essential developments without matchday revenue.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I'm not disputing that. My point is that when Sadler took the project on he wouldn't have expected to have to fund the essential developments without matchday revenue.
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No, that's true.

You have to think the money was pre-planned to be there, otherwise SG wouldn't have had a facelift.

One thing for certain, if SS was to leave (and it's always possible as nobody knows how things can change), it won't be because of the 'minority'.
 
Ginge said:
Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
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Firstly there hasn't been a single post about Sadler for about a week which only leaves me to this this is a booze fueled "look at me" load of old tripe.

Utter holier than thou bollocks.
 
Macseasider said:
Firstly there hasn't been a single post about Sadler for about a week which only leaves me to this this is a booze fueled "look at me" load of old tripe.

Utter holier than thou bollocks.
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The point is that there are people moaning without looking at the bigger picture.

Like you....
 
Philbfctrois said:
I certainly haven't lost me memory

Spent many Saturday afternoons up and down the motorway to protest outside at games, also attended several court cases to support fellow fans as well as being part of direct action protests against the Oyston family

We should never forget what we went through to get the Oystons out

Just because they have now gone it doesn't mean we can't be critical of SS and have to just except what happens

What a shite OP

'Not true supporters'

Idiot .....
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Have a look at the number of likes as opposed to comments.......

One from you, Mr Negative......now there a surprise.
 
Ginge said:
The point is that there are people moaning without looking at the bigger picture.

Like you....
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Not moaned about anything.

Yes discussed (like adults) matters concerning the club that worry me. But not in a preachy "do as I say" way like your OP telling people what they should or shouldn't think.

More than happy with Mr Sadler but I'll reserve my right to discuss things that appear not to be right on a ruddy message board.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
The transfer policy has been appalling this season, there's the elephant out of the room.
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Management changes had a big impact.
Not sure I have seen enough of Thompson, Wright, Moffat and Lyons to condemn them out of hand, but most of the loan players look useful.
Most departures from the club made sense and one or two could still feature.
If Stewart was actually a player, or our forwards could score, or our injuries were not so disruptive, things could be very different.
I would rather take time signing the right players, than panic buy, no one we were linked with and did not sign is pulling up trees.
Sure none scoring strikers and never fit midfielders will be shown the door in summer
 
Let’s be honest, there’s a world of difference between debate / criticism and actively undermining the efforts of the club to progress by making spurious, false and misleading commentary. The latter is not ‘support’ and so, by definition, they are not made by supporters. It’s the usual nutters and speaks volumes about their lives.
 
Philbfctrois said:
You are the one thats negative
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How? Read the o/p. I am positive about the supporters, the club, the commercial management.
What I am doing is making the point that we have gone from the Oystons to a promotion to a season in the Championship and staying in comfortably, to plans drawn up and being funded in part by SS and underwritten by him for a new stand and TG, the list is endless, yet people still pick fault and are in some cases vitriolic.
What is it that some people want?
People really need to be a bit more realistic.
The criticism of the window is unfair too, we are not even in the top 5 biggest clubs in the league below ffs

Are you a politician? You are blinkered enough in you reading if things, picking out just the bits you can twist for your agenda.
 
Ginge said:
How? Read the o/p. I am positive about the supporters, the club, the commercial management.
What I am doing is making the point that we have gone from the Oystons to a promotion to a season in the Championship and staying in comfortably, to plans drawn up and being funded in part by SS and underwritten by him for a new stand and TG, the list is endless, yet people still pick fault and are in some cases vitriolic.
What is it that some people want?
People really need to be a bit more realistic.
The criticism of the window is unfair too, we are not even in the top 5 biggest clubs in the league below ffs

Are you a politician? You are blinkered enough in you reading if things, picking out just the bits you can twist for your agenda.
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Nope accepting second best just because we are Oyston free is negative
 
I have enjoyed reading this thread consisting in the main considered views expressed clearly and intelligently. First of all Simon and Ben aren't perfect and they will make mistakes and as leaders that is to be expected. On balance they are leading the club totally and absolutely in the right direction with the training ground/stand and adopting the Brentford model. I am assured that Simon and Ben read the views expressed on this site and they are bound to be criticize. The only experience that I bring to the table is working behind the scenes at non league Billericay Town for a few years. The mantra was always make the club sustainable by generating income through artificial pitches hired out to the community and the usual fund raising activities. Without a forward plan and an identity you are fucked I.M.O. If there is a multi billionaire out there willing to improve the club in a better way than Simon I am sure he would cash in and sell. Don't think this is likely though.
 
Wanstead Seasider said:
I have enjoyed reading this thread consisting in the main considered views expressed clearly and intelligently. First of all Simon and Ben aren't perfect and they will make mistakes and as leaders that is to be expected. On balance they are leading the club totally and absolutely in the right direction with the training ground/stand and adopting the Brentford model. I am assured that Simon and Ben read the views expressed on this site and they are bound to be criticize. The only experience that I bring to the table is working behind the scenes at non league Billericay Town for a few years. The mantra was always make the club sustainable by generating income through artificial pitches hired out to the community and the usual fund raising activities. Without a forward plan and an identity you are fucked I.M.O. If there is a multi billionaire out there willing to improve the club in a better way than Simon I am sure he would cash in and sell. Don't think this is likely though.
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We are nothing like the Brentford model

Nothing at all, they have been spending millions on players for years not relying on loans
 
Buy, develop and sell or loan develop and send back.
Middle ground would be good, but we've only bought two, with another to come in January.
What's happening with Bridcutt anyone ?
 
Ginge said:
Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
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The year is 3074 and yet another post regarding the Oystons surfaces on AVFTT..

I don’t know why, but it seems there is a vast majority of people on this forum who HAVE to bring up the Oystons at least once a week or as and when someone questions something the club have done. As paying customers, we ALL have the right to question and want answers regarding certain things. I don’t get why the Oyston family has to be brought into it?

They’ve gone, move on. By continuously mentioning their names - knowing full well that they read this forum regularly - you’re giving them the relevance that they have forever craved since leaving.
 
Since Simon Sadler took over we've been promoted and he has steadied the club.
Critchley went for a rumoured 10 x salary increase and let's face it who wouldn't?
I personally am not an Appleton fan but although Sadler has employed him I would surmise he has been advised by Mansford who was Appleton's agent.
Sadler is building a new training ground which to be fair has been a bug bare with Blackpool supporters for years.
I think it is the Appleton appointment that has frustrated many supporters and caused anger.
I am hoping he won't be here much longer. Then it will all start again.
Rob Edwards is now a free agent. Evo would be welcomed too.
For me I only have one gripe and that's the manager not the owner.
 
Ginge said:
Who comment negatively on Simon Saddlers investment to our football club are not true supporters by definition.

Literally, have they lost their memories?

Do they not remember that bunch who took THEIR money and laughed at them whilst they did it?

YES, results on the pitch aren't brilliant. Have people decided that that is everything?

We, as a club, have had to build from what the scum left behind......
Bird shit from the seats, rusting stands, unfit training ground, dated changing rooms (like common edge c1980), zero youth policy and many more deficiencies......(please name them).

After over 30 years of nothing it will take time. Please be patient and ask your friends to be patient patient too.

The club is moving in the right direction.

👍UTMP
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Ginge 100% mate
 
Doc said:
Since Simon Sadler took over we've been promoted and he has steadied the club.
Critchley went for a rumoured 10 x salary increase and let's face it who wouldn't?
I personally am not an Appleton fan but although Sadler has employed him I would surmise he has been advised by Mansford who was Appleton's agent.
Sadler is building a new training ground which to be fair has been a bug bare with Blackpool supporters for years.
I think it is the Appleton appointment that has frustrated many supporters and caused anger.
I am hoping he won't be here much longer. Then it will all start again.
Rob Edwards is now a free agent. Evo would be welcomed too.
For me I only have one gripe and that's the manager not the owner.
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Critchley didn't go for 10 times his salary, that's absolute nonsense

Appleton is a proven manager I don't understand why people have it in for him, the issue facing Appleton is the fact that he wasn't backed properly in the transfer window

Getting rid of a manager now would be beyond stupid

As for the training ground there are still more questions than answers like who's paying for it

Oh and the owner appointed the manager so all in all your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever
 
Doc said:
Since Simon Sadler took over we've been promoted and he has steadied the club.
Critchley went for a rumoured 10 x salary increase and let's face it who wouldn't?
I personally am not an Appleton fan but although Sadler has employed him I would surmise he has been advised by Mansford who was Appleton's agent.
Sadler is building a new training ground which to be fair has been a bug bare with Blackpool supporters for years.
I think it is the Appleton appointment that has frustrated many supporters and caused anger.
I am hoping he won't be here much longer. Then it will all start again.
Rob Edwards is now a free agent. Evo would be welcomed too.
For me I only have one gripe and that's the manager not the owner.
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I think Sadler and the Board are shafting their own appointment by refusing to back him in the transfer market.

Rob Edwards wouldn’t come to Blackpool. Period.

Why would Evatt, a league one manager be welcomed, but MA - another league one manager - isn’t?
 
It took the Oystons (with more than a little help from Belokon) 30 years to get Blackpool back into the second tier while it took SS just two. I am confident that SS will do everything in his power to stay there and develop the club infrastructure.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
The year is 3074 and yet another post regarding the Oystons surfaces on AVFTT..

I don’t know why, but it seems there is a vast majority of people on this forum who HAVE to bring up the Oystons at least once a week or as and when someone questions something the club have done. As paying customers, we ALL have the right to question and want answers regarding certain things. I don’t get why the Oyston family has to be brought into it?

They’ve gone, move on. By continuously mentioning their names - knowing full well that they read this forum regularly - you’re giving them the relevance that they have forever craved since leaving.
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The post is about the unfair criticism, as I see it, that I feel is unjust....of Simon Saddler.
I bring up the question of why we are where we are currently, on the pitch, refering to the size of our club and that of our competitors.
'we will always be the underdogs'.
 
Ginge said:
The post is about the unfair criticism, as I see it, that I feel is unjust....of Simon Saddler.
I bring up the question of why we are where we are currently, on the pitch, refering to the size of our club and that of our competitors.
'we will always be the underdogs'.
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People aren’t asking for much, in my opinion.

They want money investing on the playing side of things. Is there any point having a state of the art training facility while playing in the dog and duck of League One? I mean, look at Fleetwood.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Buying the players the head coach wants would be a start
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How do you know?

It's all hearsay...

Are you saying he didn't want Thompson, Poveda and Patino?
What about Callum Wright or Fiorini?

Are you saying he didn't want those players because apart from the highly rated Wright who only arrived on deadline day, the rest have featured in Appletons squads and teams since the day they arrived.......injury allowing.....
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
People aren’t asking for much, in my opinion.

They want money investing on the playing side of things. Is there any point having a state of the art training facility while playing in the dog and duck of League One? I mean, look at Fleetwood.
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The facilities and infrastructure is what is going to allow us to compete and hopefully thrive in the Championship long term and hopefully grow to a point where we can push on even further.

Even if SS spent £50 million on a team of players next summer there’s still no guarantee we get promoted - in fact we’d still likely be outside the play offs given the relegated PL teams and other championship teams who’ve been spending money for years. If you fail with that gamble you’ve lost that money for good and every subsequent year finances get tighter.

Put the infrastructure in place and build a squad from the ground up may well cost the same £50 million but at least this way there’s other way to bring finances back into the club other than hoping for miracles on the field - also the club is in a better position to capitalise on any success it does achieve.

Infrastructure is the most appropriate and sensible way for SS and BFC to achieve long term success given the means available.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
The facilities and infrastructure is what is going to allow us to compete and hopefully thrive in the Championship long term and hopefully grow to a point where we can push on even further.

Even if SS spent £50 million on a team of players next summer there’s still no guarantee we get promoted - in fact we’d still likely be outside the play offs given the relegated PL teams and other championship teams who’ve been spending money for years. If you fail with that gamble you’ve lost that money for good and every subsequent year finances get tighter.

Put the infrastructure in place and build a squad from the ground up may well cost the same £50 million but at least this way there’s other way to bring finances back into the club other than hoping for miracles on the field - also the club is in a better position to capitalise on any success it does achieve.

Infrastructure is the most appropriate and sensible way for SS and BFC to achieve long term success given the means available.
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I’m not talking promotion, I’m talking sustaining championship status.

We knew we needed a striker under NC - we’re now in September of MA’s reign still without signing the striker. We’re drastically short all over the pitch causing us to play players out of position and chop and change formations to try and put together a bit-part starting XI.

I’m not writing the season off yet, nor am I slagging SS yet - he is investing in off the field assets. But if no money is spent, or free’d up, for the January transfer window I think we will find ourselves back in league one and seriously struggling to get out of there.

We were lucky to get out league one 2 years ago. Look at some of the clubs in league one who have been down there a while, spending money, still trying to work there way out. Going back to L1 would be disastrous.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
The facilities and infrastructure is what is going to allow us to compete and hopefully thrive in the Championship long term and hopefully grow to a point where we can push on even further.

Even if SS spent £50 million on a team of players next summer there’s still no guarantee we get promoted - in fact we’d still likely be outside the play offs given the relegated PL teams and other championship teams who’ve been spending money for years. If you fail with that gamble you’ve lost that money for good and every subsequent year finances get tighter.

Put the infrastructure in place and build a squad from the ground up may well cost the same £50 million but at least this way there’s other way to bring finances back into the club other than hoping for miracles on the field - also the club is in a better position to capitalise on any success it does achieve.

Infrastructure is the most appropriate and sensible way for SS and BFC to achieve long term success given the means available.
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nope, disagree with a lot of that. Infrastructure doesn't bring money into the club, crowds do! Maintaining our status in the Championship does that. Not too sure I've read anyone saying that Sadler needs to spend 50 million on team players, so that just shows you need to state an extreme case scenario to try and make your point. Seems to me you are the one who is taking the bigger risk by suggesting that if we were to go down to L1 that getting back up wouldn't be a problem. People were saying that in 1978 and it took 29 years to do sstep back up. Is that ok with you? You seem to assume that pretty much no money needs to be invested in the team and that the priority has to be the infrastructure. There has to be a balance between the two but for me it seems you place too much emphasis and priority on infrastructure over team investment.
Just to add, I've not got any criticism of Sadler to make either.
 
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Ginge said:
How do you know?

It's all hearsay...

Are you saying he didn't want Thompson, Poveda and Patino?
What about Callum Wright or Fiorini?

Are you saying he didn't want those players because apart from the highly rated Wright who only arrived on deadline day, the rest have featured in Appletons squads and teams since the day they arrived.......injury allowing.....
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He said buying. Only 2 out of those 5 are buys. I think they're the ONLY 2 buys.

Plus the loans will 100% be down to MA. No top club in a month of Sundays will send it's good talent to play for a manager who they weren't happy with the way he worked.

And tbh the loan fee will be peanuts to them and nowhere near as important as the kids football progression.
 
20togo said:
nope, disagree with a lot of that. Infrastructure doesn't bring money into the club, crowds do! Maintaining our status in the Championship does that. Not too sure I've read anyone saying that Sadler needs to spend 50 million on team players, so that just shows you need to state an extreme case scenario to try and make your point. Seems to me you are the one who is taking the bigger risk by suggesting that if we were to go down to L1 that getting back up wouldn't be a problem. People were saying that in 1978 and it took 29 years to do sstep back up. Is that ok with you? You seem to assume that pretty much no money needs to be invested in the team and that the priority has to be the infrastructure. There has to be a balance between the two but for me it seems you place too much emphasis and priority on infrastructure over team investment.
Just to add, I've not got any criticism of Sadler to make either.
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Yep. All about the balance, and the long term starts with the short term.

You have to stay in this league as an absolute priority beyond anything else. And that looks like needing 2/3 players, big players, in January.
 
20togo said:
nope, disagree with a lot of that. Infrastructure doesn't bring money into the club, crowds do! Maintaining our status in the Championship does that. Not too sure I've read anyone saying that Sadler needs to spend 50 million on team players, so that just shows you need to state an extreme case scenario to try and make your point. Seems to me you are the one who is taking the bigger risk by suggesting that if we were to go down to L1 that getting back up wouldn't be a problem. People were saying that in 1978 and it took 29 years to do sstep back up. Is that ok with you? You seem to assume that pretty much no money needs to be invested in the team and that the priority has to be the infrastructure. There has to be a balance between the two but for me it seems you place too much emphasis and priority on infrastructure over team investment.
Just to add, I've not got any criticism of Sadler to make either.
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The £50 million comes from what the infrastructure improvements are likely to cost. I agree staying in the Championship is hugely important but I don’t think we need to spend any more than what we have done recently to achieve that. Do we need to spend £3/4 million in January - I don’t think so. I think spending the sort of money we have done recently can bring in players who can help us maintain our current level - in fact I actually think the current squad is capable of staying up.

The fact is the club loses money in its current form. It will continue to do so unless the infrastructure allows it to grow and develop. That includes being able develop our own players and attract the best of the loanees / free agents who can improve our squad and boost our coffers through sales like Fleetwood are regularly doing with the youngsters they’re developing. We also need BR to be a money making machine and the East stand can be an integral part of that too.

A lot of people seem to think SS needs to spend just £2/3 million here and there to maintain our status - but all that’s doing is kicking the problem down the road and before you know it those £2/3 million here and there has added up and we’re no further along.

Infrastructure is key to the medium and long term development of the club. The club is spending money on youngsters already with an eye on developing them - that takes time and loanees may well be the stop gap it takes until the development system pays dividends.

PNE are a club of similar scale and size to us yet have a budget over twice the size of ours it would seem. Spending, even relatively modestly by Championship standards, doesn’t equal success and I’d suggest PNE may not have a particularly comfortable future.
 
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