The pratt(s) throwing Flares again

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Am I missing the point that this thread is merely insulting and encouraging people to hand over Blackpool fans, while ignoring the fact Forest fans were throwing bottles at us?
I must be reading it differently - from my point of view, it's pointing out that anyone throwing stuff on the pitch needs to grow up. From a Blackpool supporter point of view, if it causes problems for our attendances or other sanctions, then I'm happy for them to get caught, have a ban etc. It's quite simple, when even the owner is saying don't so it, and people are too thick to understand, then action needs to be taken. Anyone throwing bottles at away fans should also get a ban.
 
The O/P and title of this thread is literally about Blackpool fans and Blackpool fans only. Quite typical of most on here, who get on their anonymous high horse and begin insulting anyone under the age of 50, insinuating they’re not real Blackpool fans.
 
I notice how all the do-gooders have ignored my post regarding the Forest fans throwing bottles. The irony of saying people can get hurt from smoke bombs but completely disregarding something that actually has caused harm to people previously, purely because it wasn’t a Blackpool fan that threw it.
A Blackpool fan threw a bottle onto the pitch after we scored.
 
I honestly don’t know why some people get so worked up over topics like this.

In any football ground in the country and indeed any other sports event wether it be cricket rugby or whatever you are simply not allowed to throw any missiles of any sort.

Yet we seem to have people on here who for whatever reason simply don’t understand that.
 
We have a great set of fans and whilst a little raw at times creates a great atmosphere, probably the best I've seen from Blackpool fans in over 40 years

Long may it continue ....
Totally agree, great to be a part of it at the moment, I genuinely believe that a few of our fans hate it though 😂

Give them a few hundred, clapping come on the Pool every few minutes and playing travel Battleships on the way down to games and they are delighted.
 
The atmosphere that our fans create is the best in my lifetime

Its great that we have so many young passionate fans

Sometimes things go a bit over the top but i will take that to have such a hostile loud atmosphere at games

Much better than the sanitised happy clappy version that we have had previously

I just wish the old funny duddies would stop moaning every fcuking week

Enjoy it, embrace the fact we have such a passionate fanbase who are following the club home and away spending vast amounts in the process

Its great the bars and concourses are busy its fantastic that we make such a noise, evey week other clubs are commenting on our fans. We have a proper crowd for once ...

Or you could just make some corn beef and pickle sandwiches to eat in your car and sit on your hands for 90 mins
 
You and BFC_BFC_BFC need to tell Simon Sadler he's a drama queen. He wants it to stop, so do the vast majority. Simple really.
There’s no need to tell Simon Sadler anything…The club have made their position clear and that’s it.

Old men need to stop wetting their knickers about it and get on with sitting silently whilst others continue to create the kind of atmosphere that is revered by fans across the country right now.
 
The atmosphere that our fans create is the best in my lifetime

Its great that we have so many young passionate fans

Sometimes things go a bit over the top but i will take that to have such a hostile loud atmosphere at games

Much better than the sanitised happy clappy version that we have had previously

I just wish the old funny duddies would stop moaning every fcuking week

Enjoy it, embrace the fact we have such a passionate fanbase who are following the club home and away spending vast amounts in the process

Its great the bars and concourses are busy its fantastic that we make such a noise, evey week other clubs are commenting on our fans. We have a proper crowd for once ...

Or you could just make some corn beef and pickle sandwiches to eat in your car and sit on your hands for 90 mins
Again intentionally missing the point.
You can be passionate without throwing anything onto the pitch. There is no doubt that such actions are wrong.
 
There’s no need to tell Simon Sadler anything…The club have made their position clear and that’s it.

Old men need to stop wetting their knickers about it and get on with sitting silently whilst others continue to create the kind of atmosphere that is revered by fans across the country right now.
What gets to me is people forget they were young once, I’m sure everyone behaved themselves at football growing up over the years.
 
It's not like Phil or BFCx3 to take a contrary stance on every single topic posted on the any subject is it?

They are even appearing to act like a contrary Mary message board tag team now 👯‍♂️🤼‍♂️
 
It's not like Phil or BFCx3 to take a contrary stance on every single topic posted on the any subject is it?

They are even appearing to act like a contrary Mary message board tag team now 👯‍♂️🤼‍♂️
bfc3 openly stated he does it. Rather pathetic.
 
Several times during the Prem season - and the season after - visiting managers said our home fans were, man for man, the loudest in the league, creating an intimidating atmosphere.
By singing our hearts out.
No need for flares, smoke bombs, clapstix.
 
It's not like Phil or BFCx3 to take a contrary stance on every single topic posted on the any subject is it?

They are even appearing to act like a contrary Mary message board tag team now 👯‍♂️🤼‍♂️
It’s just a matter of perspective Mac…Fact is, if it were left to these moaning old duffers, Bloomfield Road would be a Library like Dumpdale.

As Phil says, sometimes our younger fans get a bit giddy, but on the whole it’s them that generate the atmosphere and lift the team.

The club are dealing with it as they see fit, so I don’t see the point in whining on about it.
 
Have teams actually been fined in England for setting off smoke bombs or flares etc?
I think it’s common at all games now and I’m not aware (I accept I haven’t googled or searched so it’s just an anecdote feeling) of teams getting fined for it?

Of course throwing items at fans or players isn’t acceptable, and would lead to fines but not sure setting them off in the stands would
 
Two sides to this thread imo, I would think that most posters on here apart from the odd stiff love the atmosphere the young pups create in the north, us included, it’s brilliant. On the other side I reckon it’s just common sense that we don’t want stuff wanged on the pitch which might damage our progress if the powers that be decide to take action against our club. Times have changed since the late 60’s/70’s when we were, shall we say over exuberant koppites! Situations inside football grounds are now legally bound, so as has been suggested before, perhaps some of the older guys/ Muckers could maybe have a word with any lads who see the need to wang stuff on the pitch, not easy perhaps but better to try and self regulate than having the authorities involved eventually.
 
Regardless of who threw it, it wasn’t very impressive it dampened the atmosphere if anything maybe I’m turning into a boring old fart now I’m approaching 40 but I can’t see the big fascination with them. I’m in awe of the noise we make though, that is impressive.
The noise is absolutely our weapon of destruction 👍
 
Regardless of who threw it, it wasn’t very impressive it dampened the atmosphere if anything maybe I’m turning into a boring old fart now I’m approaching 40 but I can’t see the big fascination with them. I’m in awe of the noise we make though, that is impressive.
I was merely stating that, as most on here only want to make Blackpool fans out to be the bad ones and make every other clubs fans seem perfect.

I agree with the atmosphere, it’s class.
 
When did I say they weren’t banned? I simply stated that they aren’t the same, because they aren’t.
in law they are catagerised the same

FSA FACT SHEET

FOOTBALL FANS, SMOKE BOMBS AND FLARES – FACT SHEET

What is the law governing smoke bombs and flares at football matches?
The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985.
It is on offence for a person to enter or attempt to enter a football ground while in possession of a flare, smoke bomb or firework. The sentence for these offences can be as much as three months in prison, and in many cases, fans who have no previous convictions are being given prison sentences for attempting to enter a football ground with a smoke bomb in their pocket as the courts take these offences very seriously.
There are two different offences (1) possession in the football ground; and (2) possession while attempting to enter. Although logically, attempting to enter a football ground seems to be less culpable than a fan who has managed to get the smoke bomb, flare or firework into the football ground, in real terms the courts do not consider one offence to be more serious than the other. Fans searched prior to entering the football ground and found to be in possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb, have still been given custodial sentences.
What does 'attempting to enter' a football ground mean?
The courts have decided that 'attempting to enter' means much more than a person who is searched at the turnstiles. Fans have been given a prison sentence for carrying a smoke bomb in their pocket when exiting the train station closest to the football ground, or when walking through the car park on the way to the football ground. A court is likely to decide that a fan who is in possession of a ticket and is close to the ground is ‘attempting to enter’.
Is it more serious to carry a flare or a firework instead of a smoke bomb?
Although a firework or flare may be seen as more dangerous than a smoke bomb to most people, the courts do not seem to distinguish between them. Fans have been sentenced to three months in prison for carrying a smoke bomb, without having actually let it off.

What is a firework?

Even a sparkler falls within the definition of firework, as do bangers and anything else that has a Firework Standard logo on it.
What is a smoke bomb?
Anything which emits smoke or visible gas, even something which is home made.
Will a conviction for possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb result in a football banning order?
It is highly likely that the court will impose a football banning order on a fan who is convicted of possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb at a football match. The very nature of the offence means that the prosecution are likely to be able to persuade the court that the offence is football related, and that it is necessary to impose the order to prevent the offence happening again.

How long will the Football Banning Order last?
Most football banning orders imposed by a court after a conviction for a football related offence are for 3 years. This does not only prevent the fan from attending football matches for the next 3 years, but can prevent them from entering the town of their football team on match days, and require them to hand their passport to the Police when the England or Wales national team are playing overseas (as appropriate). A football banning order will show up on a Criminal Records Bureau checks and may prevent a fan from obtaining a visa to travel to countries such as the USA, or working in certain professions, such as working with children.
In addition, football clubs have issued life bans to fans who have been convicted of possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb, meaning that even once the football banning order has expired, you may still be banned by your club.
What is the law on the carrying of flares, smoke bombs and fireworks for people aged under 18?
The Fireworks Regulations Act 2004
In addition to the above law, it is also an offence for a person under the age of 18 to be found carrying a firework in a public place. Smoke bombs have the Firework Standard label on them and will be classed as a firework. This doesn't just apply to people under 18 going to football matches but applies to all under 18 year olds when they are out in public places such as the park or town centre. The police can issue an £80 fixed penalty notice to anyone under the age of 18 found in possession of a firework in a
public place.
Is it an offence for an adult to have a firework in their possession if they are not going to a match?
No, it is not illegal for a person over 18 years to possess a firework, flare or smoke bomb, but it is illegal for a person over 18 years to let off the firework, flare or smoke bomb in a public place. A person over the age of 18 cannot legally be arrested for being in possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb, other than when entering or attempting to enter a football match. For instance, the arrest of a football fan at a service station for possession of a smoke bomb in their car is an unlawful arrest unless the fan admits to the police officer that they intended to take the firework, flare or smoke bomb into the football ground later that day.

Be warned that even though fans may not think that having a smoke bomb or flare in their pocket is a serious offence, the police and football club take it very seriously and even a fan with no previous convictions faces a real risk of going to prison.
Spread the word to your friends and fellow fans...
 
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Gazette report from 24th October.....

Blackpool 3 Preston North End 1

Blackpool dominated throughout this fiercely competitive local derby going one up early after 10 minutes when Keshi Anderson thundered a strike into the top corner after good work from Josh Bowler.

Blah blah blah 30 min equaliser...blah blah blah Keough header 2-1 70 minutes blah blah The icing on the cake came when Jerry Yates beat the offside trap with 5 minutes to go, rounded the Preston keeper and slotted into an empty net.
As Yates wheeled away in celebration in front of the visiting supporters something was thrown, which unfortunately hit the forward and looks like keeping Yates out for the rest of the season, it looked a very bad injury but to be honest it didn't matter because whatever it was that came on the pitch it just added to the atmosphere.

Final score 3-1 with Critchley only having Madine up front for Blackpool's next match against Sheffield United.
 
Have teams actually been fined in England for setting off smoke bombs or flares etc?
I think it’s common at all games now and I’m not aware (I accept I haven’t googled or searched so it’s just an anecdote feeling) of teams getting fined for it?

Of course throwing items at fans or players isn’t acceptable, and would lead to fines but not sure setting them off in the stands would
Didn't Mansford say it had already cost the club money because they've had to leave blocks unsold?
 
Our reputation is at stake as much as anything.

Middlesbrough away, firework or similar thrown over the top of the disabled area landing on the Astro type turf and burning it.

Forest away, smoke bomb or similar thrown onto pitch pre-game, scorching the turf, which was visible throughout the game, second projectile thrown when the goal was scored, players in the vicinity, bottle also thrown onto the pitch.

Add to that, warning from SS, the club and the fans groups about behaviour at Bloomfield Road after the linesman was pelted with missiles. against Barnsley.

As for asking about prosections for misbehaviour involving smoke bombs or similar, watch for news of the lad arrested after the Blackburn game for deeming it to add to the atmosphere on a train.

Lastly, the throwing of any projectiles by opposing fans is not our problem, it is theirs to sort out, and yes I'm aware of a member who was hit with a bottle at Forest.

Please stick to singing, shouting your hearts out and clapping, you are making a great atmosphere even better, don't ruin it by throwing anything it's not clever and could land the club in trouble. Just look at the England situation.
 
Our reputation is at stake as much as anything.

Middlesbrough away, firework or similar thrown over the top of the disabled area landing on the Astro type turf and burning it.

Forest away, smoke bomb or similar thrown onto pitch pre-game, scorching the turf, which was visible throughout the game, second projectile thrown when the goal was scored, players in the vicinity, bottle also thrown onto the pitch.

Add to that, warning from SS, the club and the fans groups about behaviour at Bloomfield Road after the linesman was pelted with missiles. against Barnsley.

As for asking about prosections for misbehaviour involving smoke bombs or similar, watch for news of the lad arrested after the Blackburn game for deeming it to add to the atmosphere on a train.

Lastly, the throwing of any projectiles by opposing fans is not our problem, it is theirs to sort out, and yes I'm aware of a member who was hit with a bottle at Forest.

Please stick to singing, shouting your hearts out and clapping, you are making a great atmosphere even better, don't ruin it by throwing anything it's not clever and could land the club in trouble. Just look at the England situation.
The England situation is because fans forced their way into the ground and fought with stewards and police. How the f*ck is that relevant here?
 
There is no argument to be had here:
  • Throwing stuff at opposition fans or onto the pitch is wrong.
  • Throwing stuff does not enhance the atmosphere one iota.
  • Saying that throwing stuff is wrong does not dampen the atmosphere one iota.
  • Standing up for idiots throwing stuff makes you an idiot also.
Factamundo!
 
I'm not sure how many cases there have been at football matches were people have been injured by a plastic bottle or by orange smoke

Obviously it's a bit daft but equally so is the complete over reaction on this site after every single game

Maybe one of the several missile experts that we have on this site could confirm?
 
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I'm not sure how many cases there have been at football matches were people have been injured by a plastic bottle or by orange smoke

Maybe one of the several missile experts that we have on this site could confirm
So it's ok to play with fire until you get burned. Ok🤪
 
Go to any festival and they are being setting off every five minutes and if it's being filmed your more than likely to end up on the coverage whilst holding one in your hand,no one ever gets arrested or thrown out for setting them off.
But they are banned same as taking a pint to your chair in a football ground so until the law changes which it might with alcohol can't see it ever with smoke bombs so the debates are a bit futile let one of get caught risk getting turfed out.
 
I notice how all the do-gooders have ignored my post regarding the Forest fans throwing bottles. The irony of saying people can get hurt from smoke bombs but completely disregarding something that actually has caused harm to people previously, purely because it wasn’t a Blackpool fan that threw it.
I didn't ignore your post re Forest fans throwing stuff, that's an issue for their club & the sensible thing to do would be not to react to it, otherwise it makes you as bad as them. If identified I'd give the lot of them substantial bans, regardless of what club they purported to support, there will have been plenty of warnings.
 
The average age of an AVFTT poster is around 65.

If you guys want to preach about smoke bombs and prison sentences etc.. then your best bet is to sign up for Snapchat 👍
On the contrary, it appears that the sensible posters on this board are trying to educate those who appear to have the same afflictions as the late Helen Keller. A pretty Impossible task.

Quick let's find out who Helen Keller was!!!!
 
On the contrary, it appears that the sensible posters on this board are trying to educate those who appear to have the same afflictions as the late Helen Keller. A pretty Impossible task.

Quick let's find out who Helen Keller was!!!!
The only affliction here appears to be “AVFTT Tourette’s”, which seems to consist of babbling on like an old woman to other babbling old women under the misapprehension that a random 20-25 year old firework chucker might hear yiu and mend their ways….
 
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