The unbearable “I told you so” brigade

Phil_bfc deux said:
I completely and utterly disagree
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No doubt...

Personally the whole bearing a grudge and clinging on to historical grievances is a trait (in my experience at least) that I'd more closely associate with old women really.

We're not the first Club to have had a fall out with their owners and we won't be the last, but as things stand it's over and done with and so we need to shake it off and get a grip to be honest.

We're starting to behave like some pathetic previously jilted overly protective and stalky boyfriend if you ask me.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
No doubt...

Personally the whole bearing a grudge and clinging on to historical grievances is a trait (in my experience at least) that I'd more closely associate with old women really.

We're not the first Club to have had a fall out with their owners and we won't be the last, but as things stand it's over and done with and so we need to shake it off and get a grip to be honest.

We're starting to behave like some pathetic previously jilted overly protective and stalky boyfriend if you ask me.
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I'm not asking you
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I'm not asking you
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It still needs to be put to bed.

A Football Club can’t function at its most effective with a bunch of overly needy cling ons sucking the life out of the place.

In the last few seasons our fans have been far too critical of the owner, his team and our managers, We’re actually suffocating the club by the level of intolerance and unreasonable expectation.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t want to be successful (wanting to be successful is absolutely fine), but it does mean we need to understand that the road to success will inevitably involve some set backs.

It’s during those set backs that we actually need to pull together the most…And as we see time and time again (the mass exodus at 0-3 being another case in point) when the going gets tough, our fans turn into a bunch of whingers and start throwing their toys out the pram.

Look at last season with Simon Sadler… No ** wonder the bloke was thoroughly pissed off.

Puts everything into the job… does everything he can to back the supporters locally and then as soon as he needs our support, we collectively hang him out to dry….

“He’s one of our own, He’s one of our own…. Unless we’re losing cos then he’s a Cnut”
 
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A_Tense_Grin said:
Does anyone really care that much to hold grudge? The frustration is simply down to a shit formation and picking players that are not good enough.
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Yes, but those kind of things are all just matters of opinion really...

352 obviously isn't a shit formation, because it's proved to be super successful and none of the players aren't good enough either.

So in the end it comes down to fans really being a bit awkward and overly negative in a lot of cases and not being willing to accept perfectly normal ups and downs that might be involved in the process of developing a successful team.

"You don't wanna do it like that, you wanna do it like this" etc..

And yes. loads of people are completely stuck in the past and in a permanent state of 'High Alert' with the mindset that any small failure or moderately controversial decision, requires them to burst into action and 'Protect the Club'.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Yes, but those kind of things are all just matters of opinion really...

352 obviously isn't a shit formation, because it's proved to be super successful and none of the players aren't good enough either.

So in the end it comes down to fans really being a bit awkward and overly negative in a lot of cases and not being willing to accept perfectly normal ups and downs that might be involved in the process of developing a successful team.

"You don't wanna do it like that, you wanna do it like this" etc..

And yes. loads of people are completely stuck in the past and in a permanent state of 'High Alert' with the mindset that any small failure or moderately controversial decision, requires them to burst into action and 'Protect the Club'.
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Connolly at left wing back is not normal. Kouassi ahead of Lavery is not normal... There is not a chance in hell Critchley is getting the best out of this squad and that's a worry to most people who understand football.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Connolly at left wing back is not normal. Kouassi ahead of Lavery is not normal... There is not a chance in hell Critchley is getting the best out of this squad and that's a worry to most people who understand football.
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Connolly isn’t playing LWB though and Lavery is recovering from an injury and Kouassi has been superb in certain games alongside Rhodes.

You’re actually just talking out of your arse. And that’s why other fans end up exasperated with you lot, because you’re not really interested in anything other than spewing your own shit regardless.
 
We was putting a good run together oxford Stevenage cheltenham then Peterborough comes along and a player gets fast tracked from nowhere in to the starting 11 , posh have some handy players and we didn't go toe to toe with them set up and personnel wise, virtue and Weir are surely further up the pecking order to make the 11 than Oakley boothe which now leaves us a tough game for wed night , need Norburn back to partner kenny.
 
Jakeyr said:
We was putting a good run together oxford Stevenage cheltenham then Peterborough comes along and a player gets fast tracked from nowhere in to the starting 11 , posh have some handy players and we didn't go toe to toe with them set up and personnel wise, virtue and Weir are surely further up the pecking order to make the 11 than Oakley boothe which now leaves us a tough game for wed night , need Norburn back to partner kenny.
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Oakley Boothe played for 78 mins against Oxford😂
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Connolly isn’t playing LWB though and Lavery is recovering from an injury and Kouassi has been superb in certain games alongside Rhodes.

You’re actually just talking out of your arse. And that’s why other fans end up exasperated with you lot, because you’re not really interested in anything other than spewing your own shit regardless.
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It's very difficult to put forward an argument when the other person is saying Kouassi has been superb. Playing against Liverpool kids doesn't really count.

Critchley was persisting with Connolly at left wing back even when results weren't favourable.

The formation isn't working. We should be higher in the league table but we are too inconsistent.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
It's very difficult to put forward an argument when the other person is saying Kouassi has been superb. Playing against Liverpool kids doesn't really count.

Critchley was persisting with Connolly at left wing back even when results weren't favourable.

The formation isn't working. We should be higher in the league table but we are too inconsistent.
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It’s bound to be difficult to put forward an argument, because you literally just talk shit all of the time.

Kouassi has not only played well in the Liverpool game, that’s either a blatant lie or you haven’t seen the other games he’s played.

Connolly isn’t being played at Left Wing back… The manager him gave it a go, we were possibly more solid in that short period, but Connolly didn’t get forward enough…. We’ve since tried other options.

The formation has worked OK… Consistency and confidence will develop over time.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s bound to be difficult to put forward an argument, because you literally just talk shit all of the time.

Kouassi has not only played well in the Liverpool game, that’s either a blatant lie or you haven’t seen the other games he’s played.

Connolly isn’t being played at Left Wing back… The manager him gave it a go, we were possibly more solid in that short period, but Connolly didn’t get forward enough…. We’ve since tried other options.

The formation has worked OK… Consistency and confidence will develop over time.
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We will never be consistent with the formation and players we have. It's just not working and never will. It needs an overhaul and by this I mean playing with proper wingers and overlapping full backs.

There is nothing wrong with believing in the process but when that process is flawed it's right people voice their concerns.
 
I agree to people voicing concerns and opinions in a constructive way, reading/listening to lots of people on here and it seems everyone has played professional football but i have to ask how and why is the system flawed.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
We will never be consistent with the formation and players we have. It's just not working and never will. It needs an overhaul and by this I mean playing with proper wingers and overlapping full backs.

There is nothing wrong with believing in the process but when that process is flawed it's right people voice their concerns.
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Like I said, you are being ridiculous and unnecessarily negative. You talk above about “Anyone who understands football” … So when exactly did you qualify in coaching then? How many professional games did you play and where can we find you on TV ?

By contrast, Neil Critchley does actually know something about football. He’s well respected by other coaches and by his squad. Players are literally signing with us just to work with him.

He clearly has a plan and an objective to play in a particular way and he will get us to where he wants to be and ultimately deliver success.

I’m comfortable with that and so long as we’re not going backwards, I can live with a certain amount of inconsistency in the shorter term. There’s nothing wrong with the process or the objective and the only thing that is flawed is the kind of thinking that cannot accept or understand that the route to success isn’t always linear.
 
I played against the likes of Barrow and Accrington Stanley so know my stuff. Badges mean sod all - I bet Colin Hendry has a few.

Critchley played Connolly at left wing back for far too long. He has dropped Dale when finding a bit of form. He is playing Kouassi ahead of Lavery when Lavery is ten times the striker as it stands today.

I just don't relate to some of the stuff he does, that's all. Compare our team and the chaotic approach to the streamlined, fast and efficient system of Peterborough and there is your answer. We are trying to re-invent the wheel with fancy bollocks but the wheel is broke.
 
Fuck me is this shite still rumbling on, too many people got too much time on their hands and delve too deep, historical bollox, make up an argument, then make out that this is what this shite is all about blah blah. We are a fecking shite watch at times, if we win we can accept the tedium just about, if not we are only left with the tedium.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Badges mean sod all - I bet Colin Hendry has a few.

Critchley played Connolly at left wing back for far too long. He has dropped Dale when finding a bit of form. He is playing Kouassi ahead of Lavery when Lavery is ten times the striker as it stands today.

I just don't relate to some of the stuff he does, that's all. Compare our team and the chaotic approach to the streamlined, fast and efficient system of Peterborough and there is your answer. We are trying to re-invent the wheel with fancy bollocks but the wheel is broke.
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Badges don’t mean sod all at all… More shyte
What does mean fuck all are vague statements like:

“I played against the like of Barrow and Accrington Stanley so I know my stuff”

I can imagine that going down a bomb in the Blackpool FC dressing room. Almost Mike Bassettesque…

Ferguson has just had that bit longer to work with Peterborough.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
I played against the likes of Barrow and Accrington Stanley so know my stuff. Badges mean sod all - I bet Colin Hendry has a few.

Critchley played Connolly at left wing back for far too long. He has dropped Dale when finding a bit of form. He is playing Kouassi ahead of Lavery when Lavery is ten times the striker as it stands today.

I just don't relate to some of the stuff he does, that's all. Compare our team and the chaotic approach to the streamlined, fast and efficient system of Peterborough and there is your answer. We are trying to re-invent the wheel with fancy bollocks but the wheel is broke.
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I don't think you can really compare Lavery to Kouassi they are two totally different players. they both add valuable attributes to the team, so my question is what makes Lavery ten times the player, you quoted you know your stuff so i'm intrigued. just out of interest who did you play for against the likes of Barrow and Accrington? I am not being funny or sarcastic i just like asking about football
 
bramn33 said:
I don't think you can really compare Lavery to Kouassi they are two totally different players. they both add valuable attributes to the team, so my question is what makes Lavery ten times the player, you quoted you know your stuff so i'm intrigued. just out of interest who did you play for against the likes of Barrow and Accrington? I am not being funny or sarcastic i just like asking about football
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Just think it's unfair on Kouassi. He should be developmening and learning and we have thrown him into a situation where he is going to get judged. Lavery will get you goals and that's what we all want.

The mighty Blackpool Mechanics.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Connolly at left wing back is not normal. Kouassi ahead of Lavery is not normal... There is not a chance in hell Critchley is getting the best out of this squad and that's a worry to most people who understand football.
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Funny thing with Lavery/Kouassi is that the general consensus only weeks ago was that Kouassi had to start and Lavery was a waste of space.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It still needs to be put to bed.

A Football Club can’t function at its most effective with a bunch of overly needy cling ons sucking the life out of the place.

In the last few seasons our fans have been far too critical of the owner, his team and our managers, We’re actually suffocating the club by the level of intolerance and unreasonable expectation.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t want to be successful (wanting to be successful is absolutely fine), but it does mean we need to understand that the road to success will inevitably involve some set backs.

It’s during those set backs that we actually need to pull together the most…And as we see time and time again (the mass exodus at 0-3 being another case in point) when the going gets tough, our fans turn into a bunch of whingers and start throwing their toys out the pram.

Look at last season with Simon Sadler… No ** wonder the bloke was thoroughly pissed off.

Puts everything into the job… does everything he can to back the supporters locally and then as soon as he needs our support, we collectively hang him out to dry….

“He’s one of our own, He’s one of our own…. Unless we’re losing cos then he’s a Cnut”
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The minority kick up a fuss. The majority watch the game have a whinge and a moan in the pub and thats it. If there was a poll taken from attendees at home games 90 per cent i would say would be happy with the owner.

The atmosphere home and away is superb .

If I was SS i would take any notice of the cling ons. The majority are happy with what he's doing i reckon. Football is an opinionated arena. We all are owners and managers who would do things differently. Most of us however wouldnt have a clue if we were put in the hot seat and probably feck things up big time.😀
 
Shiggy said:
Funny thing with Lavery/Kouassi is that the general consensus only weeks ago was that Kouassi had to start and Lavery was a waste of space.
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It was a horrible watch against Peterborough. We should be pressing from the top especially with having two upfront. It just makes us lazy with long balls and sluggish in possession. What is the point in playing Kouassi and then picking Dom Thompson who was defending more than attacking. It was just yet another example of shit tactics.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
It was a horrible watch against Peterborough. We should be pressing from the top especially with having two upfront. It just makes us lazy with long balls and sluggish in possession. What is the point in playing Kouassi and then picking Dom Thompson who was defending more than attacking. It was just yet another example of shit tactics.
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Peterborough isn’t the only game he’s played in though… And in other games he’s been technically very good, released the ball early and with great vision and contributed to great attacking play.

He’s 20 years old ffs
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Just think it's unfair on Kouassi. He should be developmening and learning and we have thrown him into a situation where he is going to get judged. Lavery will get you goals and that's what we all want.

The mighty Blackpool Mechanics.
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Personally i think the lad (Kouassi) has got ability and is still learning he holds the ball up well is strong but not as quick as Lavery he needs game to learn and i think in time will be a very valuable asset, I think Critchley will swap and change the two depending on the opposition as he does with a few positions and i get that.
That must be a while ago since you played Barrow and Accrington for the Mighty Blackpool Mechanics.
 
Are you Chissy?
A_Tense_Grin said:
I played against the likes of Barrow and Accrington Stanley so know my stuff. Badges mean sod all - I bet Colin Hendry has a few.

Critchley played Connolly at left wing back for far too long. He has dropped Dale when finding a bit of form. He is playing Kouassi ahead of Lavery when Lavery is ten times the striker as it stands today.

I just don't relate to some of the stuff he does, that's all. Compare our team and the chaotic approach to the streamlined, fast and efficient system of Peterborough and there is your answer. We are trying to re-invent the wheel with fancy bollocks but the wheel is broke.
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A_Tense_Grin said:
Just think it's unfair on Kouassi. He should be developmening and learning and we have thrown him into a situation where he is going to get judged. Lavery will get you goals and that's what we all want.

The mighty Blackpool Mechanics.
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Blackpool mechanics ffs make sure u keep ur phone on,I’m sure u will be the fa first’s choice when Southgate vacates
 
I wasn't too upset when Critchley came back. Good solid manager for League One, did well for us in the Championship and was lured to the bright lights.
However, for those in the 'I told you so' camp, Critch is giving them the ammunition. As I say I don't mind him as a manager and he speaks a lot of sense but his formation and team selections are baffling.
 
Another game, another game plan that delivers nothing for 45 out of 90 minutes and drops us points. “Doing well” is not this.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Like I said, you are being ridiculous and unnecessarily negative. You talk above about “Anyone who understands football” … So when exactly did you qualify in coaching then? How many professional games did you play and where can we find you on TV ?

By contrast, Neil Critchley does actually know something about football. He’s well respected by other coaches and by his squad. Players are literally signing with us just to work with him.

He clearly has a plan and an objective to play in a particular way and he will get us to where he wants to be and ultimately deliver success.

I’m comfortable with that and so long as we’re not going backwards, I can live with a certain amount of inconsistency in the shorter term. There’s nothing wrong with the process or the objective and the only thing that is flawed is the kind of thinking that cannot accept or understand that the route to success isn’t always linear.
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If he was so well respected he’d still be at QPR or working with Gerrard. He’s a manager of a team in the next to last rung of professional football and the jury is still out as to whether he’s a manager or a coach.
 
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