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Tangerinenick

Tangerinenick

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Not the band but the world Heath Organization.

Forget Trump's rants and deflection - focus on the WHO.

Its stated aim is,...'To act as a directing and coordinating authority on international health work, to ensure valid and productive technical cooperation, and to promote research.'

Serious questions have to be asked about this organization. Not the rank and file people who work for it but its leadership.
Questions to be addressed are :
Why did it agree with a dictatorship over when it would announce that the Covid 19 virus was a pandemic when it knew that the virus was a person to person transmittable virus weeks before? Indeed they refused to acknowledge it was a pandemic for many weeks after -
Speaking at a press briefing in Geneva, Switzerland - 24th Feb - Tedros Ghebreyesus Director General said the spread of the covid 19 virus around the world is not yet at pandemic stage. This was stated despite the virus being identified as being in over 100 countries and that it was a person to person transmittable virus that kills. At this point many people all over the world had died.
Definition of pandemic (of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.
synonyms: widespread · prevalent · pervasive · rife · rampant · epidemic · universal · global
Why has the WHO never questioned how the Chinese authorities 'dealt' with doctors who identified and announced the presence of a deadly virus weeks before Chinese authorities announced it?
Why haven't the WHO not criticized, condemned, the way China did not lockdown the virus - allowing many, many, flights out of Wuhan & other parts of China which subsequently spread the virus both before and after China went into lockdown?
Why does the WHO (supposed to be independent) refuse to acknowledge the sovereignty of Taiwan - Republic of China (ROC), as it is in fact one of the five Permanent Members listed in the Charter of the UN. Admittedly many counties don't but the UN is supposed to be above political/state allegiances. Is this down as I suspect it is with many counties to a fear of upsetting China?

There is something very dodgy about the WHO.
 
I suppose it depends on the definition of prevalent. If strict test and trace had been carried out as WHO suggested may it not have reached the stage it has?
 
From yesterdays WHO situation report..
"TheDirector-General thanked the United Kingdom for its generous contribution of £200 million to the global response to COVID-19, an act which he described as a ‘demonstration of global solidarity’
 
basilrobbie said:
OP sounds a lot like Trumpery to me.
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Nothing to do with Trump. God knows what that man is doing and spouting half the time.
My post is about the failings/impartiality of the WHO. Guess yours was an easier reply. No surprise.
 
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Tangerinenick said:
Not the band but the world Heath Organization.

Forget Trump's rants and deflection - focus on the WHO.

Its stated aim is,...'To act as a directing and coordinating authority on international health work, to ensure valid and productive technical cooperation, and to promote research.'

Serious questions have to be asked about this organization. Not the rank and file people who work for it but its leadership.
Questions to be addressed are :
Why did it agree with a dictatorship over when it would announce that the Covid 19 virus was a pandemic when it knew that the virus was a person to person transmittable virus weeks before? Indeed they refused to acknowledge it was a pandemic for many weeks after -
Speaking at a press briefing in Geneva, Switzerland - 24th Feb - Tedros Ghebreyesus Director General said the spread of the covid 19 virus around the world is not yet at pandemic stage. This was stated despite the virus being identified as being in over 100 countries and that it was a person to person transmittable virus that kills. At this point many people all over the world had died.
Definition of pandemic (of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.
synonyms: widespread · prevalent · pervasive · rife · rampant · epidemic · universal · global
Why has the WHO never questioned how the Chinese authorities 'dealt' with doctors who identified and announced the presence of a deadly virus weeks before Chinese authorities announced it?
Why haven't the WHO not criticized, condemned, the way China did not lockdown the virus - allowing many, many, flights out of Wuhan & other parts of China which subsequently spread the virus both before and after China went into lockdown?
Why does the WHO (supposed to be independent) refuse to acknowledge the sovereignty of Taiwan - Republic of China (ROC), as it is in fact one of the five Permanent Members listed in the Charter of the UN. Admittedly many counties don't but the UN is supposed to be above political/state allegiances. Is this down as I suspect it is with many counties to a fear of upsetting China?

There is something very dodgy about the WHO.
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So basically Trump is correct but you don't to admit it? 🤔 😉
 
Early lockdown and mass testing, both WHO advice, would've left a lot less dead in the UK or the US than we have at the moment. Whatever justified criticisms can be made about their lack of challenge to the Chinese propaganda, they have performed much better than most of our leaders, especially Trump.
 
Don_K_Lasher said:
So basically Trump is correct but you don't to admit it? 🤔 😉
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Seems to me he has made very valid points which endorses what many other people believe. Their were massive failings by WHO way before the Don blew his trumpet. Why didn't WHO condemn China for breaking their own lockdown? Incidentally the WHO said face masks were not recommended....
In the case of a pandemic its all about containment. San Francisco showed how to do it during the Spanish flu pandemic. Containment is absolutely fundamental. Far more fundamental than testing. Once you are at the test, test, test ,stage the virus is no longer contained and we are where we are now.
In the case of say Ebola - the first thing that the WHO/CDC instigate is containment not test, test, test. Lock the stable door before the horse has bolted maybe?

So Trump (or anyone for that matter) saying that the WHO failed to condemn China for not locking down properly is 100% correct.
 
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Sorry, the same Trump who said, after his phone call with the Chines PM, what a terrific job the Chinese were doing? The same Chinese who built a huge earth barrier around Wutan to isolate? They were slow to react and have lied about their numbers, most governments around the world are guilty of the former, and a fair few of the latter.

His problem is that he cannot remember what he said a few days ago. It is absolute insanity to start attacking the WHO, and all his minions are doing the job for him. It is surely entirely appropriate, and indeed the basis of capitalism, that the richest economy supports far more, that is the sole argument why all these obscenely paid people justify their pay by philanthropy.
 
The evidence is out there as to who did and said what. It doesn't take too long to find it.
Use of the word collusion between China and the WHO is nonsense.
That doesn't mean they got everything right but with a budget less than a major US hospital and reliance on goodwill from nations, they could hardly have barged into China with a list of demands.
We're seeing a rewriting of history beginning for after this is all over.
 
To be fair, Trump should be thanking them privately for deflecting his inadequacies for acting and taking it seriously a month ago. Everything was really really great back then and the US were in a really really great, in fact the best, position to deal with it.
 
catinstalbans said:
I'd trust the WHO before I'd trust Trump and any of his right wing blame deflectors. As a conspiracy theory fan could it be that Tangerine Nige morphed into Tangerine Nick?
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Yeah but 'let's be honest, you're so biased and full of blinkered hatred, you'd trust the devil before you'd trust Trump! 🤡
 
All of these organisations are reading from the same script. Trump's role is 'the idiot' so he pretends to withdraw support for the organisation which everyone is supposed to then feel sorry for and side with. The when the popular WHO later claim the worldwide response was chaotic it helps to lead us nicely towards a world government which can suppress and dictate to us all forever more.
 
When on Fox news justifying Trump's decision.. KellyAnne Conway: 'this is Covid 19 folks: not Covid 1'.
Ffs: what is wrong with some people?
 
catinstalbans said:
I'd trust the WHO before I'd trust Trump and any of his right wing blame deflectors. As a conspiracy theory fan could it be that Tangerine Nige morphed into Tangerine Nick?
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Nope CATS - Is everything you disagree with right wing?
If it is raining when you want sun is it because the weather has a right wing fascist agenda?
Would you trust the Chinese dictatorship more than Trump?
Wuhan wasn't locked down when the pandemic was identified and covered up. Several Chinese doctors died exposing that - that is a fact not a conspiracy theory.

Incidentally I am pointing out the WHO failings not praising Trump ffs!
 
Tangerinenick said:
Nope CATS - Is everything you disagree with right wing?
If it is raining when you want sun is it because the weather has a right wing fascist agenda?
Would you trust the Chinese dictatorship more than Trump?
Wuhan wasn't locked down when the pandemic was identified and covered up. Several Chinese doctors died exposing that - that is a fact not a conspiracy theory.

Incidentally I am pointing out the WHO failings not praising Trump ffs!
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I personally wouldn't and don't trust either of them in equal measure.
 
Let's stop this 'my Dad's bigger than your Dad' bickering. If the WHO did indeed behave as the OP is suggesting then in the fullness of time, there's a review needed. Right now the WHO is on the side of humanity - it's not trying to win an election.
Trump, on the other hand, is a self-obsessed narcissist.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
To be fair, Trump should be thanking them privately for deflecting his inadequacies for acting and taking it seriously a month ago. Everything was really really great back then and the US were in a really really great, in fact the best, position to deal with it.
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I presume America is now back open for business and COVID 19 is behind it. After all, that's what Donald said three weeks ago, and he's the best President they've ever had.
 
The WHO notified both the USA & South Korea at exactly the same time and with exactly the same information.

South Korea took instant action by taking the infection seriously and began testing, identification and treating WITHOUT the need of lockdown.
There are deep cultural factors, such as the willingness of the public to sacrifice privacy for the greater good and the cleanliness of public spaces but the action was swift and positive.
As of today: 10k infections and just 225 deaths

Where as the USA who has 4% of the worlds population and 30% of Coronavirus infections.
As of today: 2million infections and 130k deaths

The USA ignored info from the WHO...it failed to test, identify or even reduce mass gatherings.
Some with an IQ similar to the Donald may want to blame the WHO or even make it a political response that "AN ADVISORY" organisation is somehow are at fault because countries didn't act quick and caused deaths that could have been avoided.

It's a bit like blaming the Fire brigade after your house caught fire when you had an indoor bonfire....
 
As always the UK is the second highest financial contributor behind the USA. Bill gates gives more than rather rest of Europe and China combined.
 
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