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There is plenty of valid criticism that can be levelled at our players and management team. To take just today's performance as an example, you could touch on the poor finishing, flaky performances from our (usually solid) centre halves, failure to adapt tactically in the second half, lack of creativity in midfield, subs coming too late. I'm in absolutely no doubt that many on here will find a few more.

However, in the aftermath of the past few games, i've seen some tripe on here that has been missing (for the most part) since October.

Comments along the lines 'Typical Critchley' after the 1-0 loss to Shrewsbury. Typical what? Was the 9 league game period beforehand with one loss, atypical Critchley?

What are you expecting from this season? A squad turnaround involving around 20 players coming in and about the same leaving the club, and a head coach in his first role at this level. By what right do we deserve to be challenging for the playoffs? Critchley hasn't even had a full season yet, thank god that our chairman has the patience that a large section of this message board appear to be lacking.

Ifollow has afforded me the opportunity to watch the vast majority of the games this season; I'll use today's performance as an example again. If i hadn't watched the game and gone off the reaction from some on here, I'd have envisaged a hopeless performance, completely barren of any creativity or desire from the team. Along with an opposition that had us tactically sussed for the entire 90 mins. In reality, while it was no doubt frustrating at times, we creative at least half a dozen clear-cut chances that on another day would've seen us win. The majority of the second half we were very poor, but still dominated in the first 45 and the last 10. In no way are calls for replacing the head coach, or overhauling our tactics, valid based on today's performance.

A lot of this hyperbolic criticism comes from a section fans trying to justify their stance of wanting Critch out before we'd played 10 games. The team and manager will now have knives poking their back for the rest of the season, with these fans jumping on any opportunity to prove that their rash early season criticism was justified. On that note, is Calderwood immune from criticism in this latest dip in form, or is he still considered the second-coming, responsible for everything good on the pitch?

We have every reason to feel unified as a fan base after developments off and (and lets be honest, for the most part) on the pitch, yet if you came on here after a loss, we couldn't appear much more divided.
 
ChallengerDeep said:
There is plenty of valid criticism that can be levelled at our players and management team. To take just today's performance as an example, you could touch on the poor finishing, flaky performances from our (usually solid) centre halves, failure to adapt tactically in the second half, lack of creativity in midfield, subs coming too late. I'm in absolutely no doubt that many on here will find a few more.

However, in the aftermath of the past few games, i've seen some tripe on here that has been missing (for the most part) since October.

Comments along the lines 'Typical Critchley' after the 1-0 loss to Shrewsbury. Typical what? Was the 9 league game period beforehand with one loss, atypical Critchley?

What are you expecting from this season? A squad turnaround involving around 20 players coming in and about the same leaving the club, and a head coach in his first role at this level. By what right do we deserve to be challenging for the playoffs? Critchley hasn't even had a full season yet, thank god that our chairman has the patience that a large section of this message board appear to be lacking.

Ifollow has afforded me the opportunity to watch the vast majority of the games this season; I'll use today's performance as an example again. If i hadn't watched the game and gone off the reaction from some on here, I'd have envisaged a hopeless performance, completely barren of any creativity or desire from the team. Along with an opposition that had us tactically sussed for the entire 90 mins. In reality, while it was no doubt frustrating at times, we creative at least half a dozen clear-cut chances that on another day would've seen us win. The majority of the second half we were very poor, but still dominated in the first 45 and the last 10. In no way are calls for replacing the head coach, or overhauling our tactics, valid based on today's performance.

A lot of this hyperbolic criticism comes from a section fans trying to justify their stance of wanting Critch out before we'd played 10 games. The team and manager will now have knives poking their back for the rest of the season, with these fans jumping on any opportunity to prove that their rash early season criticism was justified. On that note, is Calderwood immune from criticism in this latest dip in form, or is he still considered the second-coming, responsible for everything good on the pitch?

We have every reason to feel unified as a fan base after developments off and (and lets be honest, for the most part) on the pitch, yet if you came on here after a loss, we couldn't appear much more divided.
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What a great post. You all should read this and take a deep breath, and digest words of wisdom
As I said on another thread, we seem to have attracted some whoppers to this board and sadly they seem to be of the same generation (who should show more wisdom).
Surely after years of parasitical rape of our club we can show a touch of patience and see this as the start of a new dawn not an instant revolution?
 
20togo said:
Simple question. What was Sadlers aim for this season? If he has stated it's promotion and I don't know if at the start of the season whether or not he said it was, [I believe he did] then I think it reasonable that the fans can have that same aim as well.
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I thought it was promotion next season so we all heard differently...I will be very disappointed if we are outside the top 10 this season
 
Nail on the head.
As you say so much of it stems from, for whatever reason, them not wanting Critchley in the first place.
They will not be happy until he is gone.
There is without a doubt a section of our "fans" who want us to fail purely so they can be proved right about Critchley.
We're in 13th place, months in to a long term project and people are still calling for his head. Fired for being thirteenth - what planet are they on?
It has gone way past constructive criticism

Part of it is probably down to the want it now nature of society nowadays, every loss or draw is taken as the end of the world.
I genuinely wonder how these people have watched us for so many years (if they actually have) without ending up swinging from a tree, and just as baffling is how they handle "real life" if this is how they react to a sporting event not going their way.
They seem to think we have a God given right to win every single game, and if we don't then everything is rotten to the core and should be demolished.
It doesnt seem to occur to them that there are other teams who are trying to win games too and aren't willing to roll over and let us have our way.
 
ChallengerDeep said:
There is plenty of valid criticism that can be levelled at our players and management team. To take just today's performance as an example, you could touch on the poor finishing, flaky performances from our (usually solid) centre halves, failure to adapt tactically in the second half, lack of creativity in midfield, subs coming too late. I'm in absolutely no doubt that many on here will find a few more.

However, in the aftermath of the past few games, i've seen some tripe on here that has been missing (for the most part) since October.

Comments along the lines 'Typical Critchley' after the 1-0 loss to Shrewsbury. Typical what? Was the 9 league game period beforehand with one loss, atypical Critchley?

What are you expecting from this season? A squad turnaround involving around 20 players coming in and about the same leaving the club, and a head coach in his first role at this level. By what right do we deserve to be challenging for the playoffs? Critchley hasn't even had a full season yet, thank god that our chairman has the patience that a large section of this message board appear to be lacking.

Ifollow has afforded me the opportunity to watch the vast majority of the games this season; I'll use today's performance as an example again. If i hadn't watched the game and gone off the reaction from some on here, I'd have envisaged a hopeless performance, completely barren of any creativity or desire from the team. Along with an opposition that had us tactically sussed for the entire 90 mins. In reality, while it was no doubt frustrating at times, we creative at least half a dozen clear-cut chances that on another day would've seen us win. The majority of the second half we were very poor, but still dominated in the first 45 and the last 10. In no way are calls for replacing the head coach, or overhauling our tactics, valid based on today's performance.

A lot of this hyperbolic criticism comes from a section fans trying to justify their stance of wanting Critch out before we'd played 10 games. The team and manager will now have knives poking their back for the rest of the season, with these fans jumping on any opportunity to prove that their rash early season criticism was justified. On that note, is Calderwood immune from criticism in this latest dip in form, or is he still considered the second-coming, responsible for everything good on the pitch?

We have every reason to feel unified as a fan base after developments off and (and lets be honest, for the most part) on the pitch, yet if you came on here after a loss, we couldn't appear much more divided.
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Very good post. I do try to think before I post and if I criticise, I hope I'm being realistic. However, it's important to have others who say "garbage post" to keep us on track.
 
ChallengerDeep said:
There is plenty of valid criticism that can be levelled at our players and management team. To take just today's performance as an example, you could touch on the poor finishing, flaky performances from our (usually solid) centre halves, failure to adapt tactically in the second half, lack of creativity in midfield, subs coming too late. I'm in absolutely no doubt that many on here will find a few more.

However, in the aftermath of the past few games, i've seen some tripe on here that has been missing (for the most part) since October.

Comments along the lines 'Typical Critchley' after the 1-0 loss to Shrewsbury. Typical what? Was the 9 league game period beforehand with one loss, atypical Critchley?

What are you expecting from this season? A squad turnaround involving around 20 players coming in and about the same leaving the club, and a head coach in his first role at this level. By what right do we deserve to be challenging for the playoffs? Critchley hasn't even had a full season yet, thank god that our chairman has the patience that a large section of this message board appear to be lacking.

Ifollow has afforded me the opportunity to watch the vast majority of the games this season; I'll use today's performance as an example again. If i hadn't watched the game and gone off the reaction from some on here, I'd have envisaged a hopeless performance, completely barren of any creativity or desire from the team. Along with an opposition that had us tactically sussed for the entire 90 mins. In reality, while it was no doubt frustrating at times, we creative at least half a dozen clear-cut chances that on another day would've seen us win. The majority of the second half we were very poor, but still dominated in the first 45 and the last 10. In no way are calls for replacing the head coach, or overhauling our tactics, valid based on today's performance.

A lot of this hyperbolic criticism comes from a section fans trying to justify their stance of wanting Critch out before we'd played 10 games. The team and manager will now have knives poking their back for the rest of the season, with these fans jumping on any opportunity to prove that their rash early season criticism was justified. On that note, is Calderwood immune from criticism in this latest dip in form, or is he still considered the second-coming, responsible for everything good on the pitch?

We have every reason to feel unified as a fan base after developments off and (and lets be honest, for the most part) on the pitch, yet if you came on here after a loss, we couldn't appear much more divided.
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I'd agree with all that .... but I wouldn't worry too much. Daft and nonsensical football comment and analysis full of hysterical over-reaction has always been there. The only difference is that it's now online rather than in the pub.

90% of it is (fetid) hot air and really not worth getting worked up about. However, if you can be bothered sticking with it there is the occasional educated and insightful analysis. I'd give far more weight to the Seasiders Podcast discussion than anything on here.
 
The supporters (loosely) who seem to think we have a divine right to be playing teams off the park and beating them while looking down their noses at teams like Bristol Rovers and Shrewsbury drive me insane.
FFS were have a new Coach, a new Chairman and board and a complete new team with a few Loans chucked in. At what point do you think we should be bossing the league like a Real Madrid or a Barcelona ? There’s enough to be fed up about at the moment without going full metal jacket on a new young squad losing away to Bristol Rovers. Chill out and have some patience and give the man (NC) a break.
if we don’t go up this season, and there’s still a real chance of making the play offs then there’s always a few more transfer windows and next season when we will hopefully be back in the ground to cheer on the mighty Seasiders. #UTMP🍊
 
I agree with you, there will always be some that take the criticism too far.

Ultimately though I feel a lot of the critique is justified of the last two fixtures. Uninspired performances that we never really looked like winning, the irony is they feel more frustrating after we played so well against essentially the top 4 of the division. I said similar on the match day thread that this unfortunately proves we probably don't have the consistency to reach the play-offs this season, but the signs have been there this season that with this transfer window and the summer, with enough time and additions here and there we can smash it next year!
 
I would say we are work in progress, we are a mid table sniff at the play offs league 1 team at the moment. We are a few players away from a play off/title chasing side and we won't be that until next season.

We are short on a really good goalscorer to play alongside Madine and a target man to give Madine some much needed competition and we are really desperate for a goal scoring creative midfielder, a la Charlie.

The side just doesn't look balanced at the moment and Critch's ideaology that he prefers players who are versatile and can play in various positions sounds great but that is really difficult to find. I would rather have players who have an identifiable role and are brilliant in that position with decent bak up. It's a very modern ethos wanting versatility but unless you are a PL team you aren't going to find sufficient quality lower down the leagues.

I am enjoying the football we are playing although frustrating at times. Critch is learning fast and he will have ups and downs but he really needs to be given 3 seasons to sort this out and I think it will take at least 2 for us to get into the Championship. There are so many more positives than negatives and I'm just going to enjoy the football. The moaning on here is as if those who do it have forgotten what we had. We were lucky to have VB, Parkes and then Ollie, the players they got in were a perfect fit but it isn't easy to get that. When it all went tits up it went tits up in a monumental way and we are now rebuilding from the bottom up and it takes time. A plea for patience maybe?
 
Scaramanga said:
The supporters (loosely) who seem to think we have a divine right to be playing teams off the park and beating them while looking down their noses at teams like Bristol Rovers and Shrewsbury drive me insane.
FFS were have a new Coach, a new Chairman and board and a complete new team with a few Loans chucked in. At what point do you think we should be bossing the league like a Real Madrid or a Barcelona ? There’s enough to be fed up about at the moment without going full metal jacket on a new young squad losing away to Bristol Rovers. Chill out and have some patience and give the man (NC) a break.
if we don’t go up this season, and there’s still a real chance of making the play offs then there’s always a few more transfer windows and next season when we will hopefully be back in the ground to cheer on the mighty Seasiders. #UTMP🍊
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Reasonable post Scara.
 
Great OP. SS's ambitions as he stated when he took over was to see us promoted playing attractive and entertaining football (amongst others) within 3 years. Larry clearly didn’t understand this and was subsequently potted brought about by the performances during the December / January months (always tends to be our achilles heel!). NC clearly gets SS's ambitions and by and large has been delivering but as has been mentioned in numerous posts the final third is a concern at the moment, and hopefully may be resolved in this transfer window.
 
ChallengerDeep said:
There is plenty of valid criticism that can be levelled at our players and management team. To take just today's performance as an example, you could touch on the poor finishing, flaky performances from our (usually solid) centre halves, failure to adapt tactically in the second half, lack of creativity in midfield, subs coming too late. I'm in absolutely no doubt that many on here will find a few more.

However, in the aftermath of the past few games, i've seen some tripe on here that has been missing (for the most part) since October.

Comments along the lines 'Typical Critchley' after the 1-0 loss to Shrewsbury. Typical what? Was the 9 league game period beforehand with one loss, atypical Critchley?

What are you expecting from this season? A squad turnaround involving around 20 players coming in and about the same leaving the club, and a head coach in his first role at this level. By what right do we deserve to be challenging for the playoffs? Critchley hasn't even had a full season yet, thank god that our chairman has the patience that a large section of this message board appear to be lacking.

Ifollow has afforded me the opportunity to watch the vast majority of the games this season; I'll use today's performance as an example again. If i hadn't watched the game and gone off the reaction from some on here, I'd have envisaged a hopeless performance, completely barren of any creativity or desire from the team. Along with an opposition that had us tactically sussed for the entire 90 mins. In reality, while it was no doubt frustrating at times, we creative at least half a dozen clear-cut chances that on another day would've seen us win. The majority of the second half we were very poor, but still dominated in the first 45 and the last 10. In no way are calls for replacing the head coach, or overhauling our tactics, valid based on today's performance.

A lot of this hyperbolic criticism comes from a section fans trying to justify their stance of wanting Critch out before we'd played 10 games. The team and manager will now have knives poking their back for the rest of the season, with these fans jumping on any opportunity to prove that their rash early season criticism was justified. On that note, is Calderwood immune from criticism in this latest dip in form, or is he still considered the second-coming, responsible for everything good on the pitch?

We have every reason to feel unified as a fan base after developments off and (and lets be honest, for the most part) on the pitch, yet if you came on here after a loss, we couldn't appear much more divided.
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Spot on
 
What a great post Challenger. 👍
You should know by now mate that there some very fickle numpties on here who obviously have very short (or selective) memories.
There were a lot of sacrifices made by many in an effort to dethrone the Oystons and now they have gone the usual suspects on here are still whinging.
 
20togo said:
Simple question. What was Sadlers aim for this season? If he has stated it's promotion and I don't know if at the start of the season whether or not he said it was, [I believe he did] then I think it reasonable that the fans can have that same aim as well.
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The master of picking up on random quotes rather than the topic itself strikes again. The problem with that is you need to be accurate and you weren't he said 3 seasons so maybe we should have the same aim as that?
 
The OP reminds me of the "This board is toxic" thread the other day.

There are 1 or 2 people that comment along the lines of slating Critchley all the time. The rest don't.

All very snowflakey.
 
hertfordseasider said:
The master of picking up on random quotes rather than the topic itself strikes again. The problem with that is you need to be accurate and you weren't he said 3 seasons so maybe we should have the same aim as that?
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What the fcuk you on about? The title of the thread is 'this board' and the poster goes on to talk about the posters and expressing their views on it. He also ASKS the question " what are you expecting from this season?" and I replied with a question regarding what were Sadlers aims? I think that's a reasonable question and even though there have been different answers and I thought that he said it might have been the aim this season but GJ replied saying three seasons and TPP replied two seasons to which I gave a thumbs up.
 
We have 28/29 first teamers. Struggling to think of another era when we’ve had so many.
He still doesn’t know his best team, too many players signed and not a decent striker among them.
Taking the sentiment out of it and putting aside the undoubted gratitude towards SS, we’ve recruited poorly, especially in the key area that counts.
Big window for the club this one.
 
BlackpoolPuma said:
We have 28/29 first teamers. Struggling to think of another era when we’ve had so many.
He still doesn’t know his best team, too many players signed and not a decent striker among them.
Taking the sentiment out of it and putting aside the undoubted gratitude towards SS, we’ve recruited poorly, especially in the key area that counts.
Big window for the club this one.
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We've recruited too many for sure and batches of players who he sees as versatile but are in fact very samey so even though we have a big squad we lack variety,
 
BlackpoolPuma said:
We have 28/29 first teamers. Struggling to think of another era when we’ve had so many.
He still doesn’t know his best team, too many players signed and not a decent striker among them.
Taking the sentiment out of it and putting aside the undoubted gratitude towards SS, we’ve recruited poorly, especially in the key area that counts.
Big window for the club this one.
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Is it though?

I'd argue the last thing we need to do is make wholesale changes. There's definitely a need to strengthen up front but beyond that?
 
Macseasider said:
The OP reminds me of the "This board is toxic" thread the other day.

There are 1 or 2 people that comment along the lines of slating Critchley all the time. The rest don't.

All very snowflakey.
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I think I agree.

There's a few people who the rest of the board *love* to hate. For all the "we need reasonable analysis" the fact is, the threads that run and run are the ones where someone makes a statement like "Critch out" or "Player X is the worst player I've ever seen"

Without those few posters, for better or worse, we'd all have logged off by now and be doing something more constructive.

If you feed them, they will post etc. If people rewarded calm, thoughtful views, the internet would be very different, we'd probably not have had trump as president of the US and so on and so forth.

It's the internet ffs, if someone is annoying you, look at something else. Plenty of good posts on here from different perspectives.
 
Shiggy said:
It’s also fine margins... if we’d won the last two games we’d be joint 4th. Seen people saying the season is over etc, reactionary and over the top
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I think in the heat of the moment I posted that we'd stuffed any chance of the playoffs on the match thread. Of course a couple of hours later I don't mean that but at the time was feeling frustrated and many of us come out with all sorts of comments we later know to be untrue.
 
Are we not allowed to comment per game on a BFC forum about a performance?
It wouldn't matter if we had Pep in charge and Messi up front if we are bad you are allowed to criticise or what's the point of posting.

These type of O/P's attacking fans for having an opinion is fracturing our fan base and equally is bad those who stick their head in the sand.
 
Eternaloptimist said:
What a great post Challenger. 👍
You should know by now mate that there some very fickle numpties on here who obviously have very short (or selective) memories.
There were a lot of sacrifices made by many in an effort to dethrone the Oystons and now they have gone the usual suspects on here are still whinging.
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I think Challenger learnt his football and team the right way, shame about his surname 😬
 
Macseasider said:
I think in the heat of the moment I posted that we'd stuffed any chance of the playoffs on the match thread. Of course a couple of hours later I don't mean that but at the time was feeling frustrated and many of us come out with all sorts of comments we later know to be untrue.
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Again, yes.

We've all been at games and said 'fuckimg hell, Turton/Eardley/Burgess/Bardsley/anyone of a million different players and gone 'whst the fuck are you doing Larry/Macca/Ollie/Worthington etc... when subs have been made.

No one sits/stands there just clapping everything saying 'play up pool'

At the same time, from time to time you get sat near someone who starts with "what's that? Shite!" from the first 10 seconds and never shuts up no matter what and you just think, ** hell, give it a rest.

I think the relentless positivity of some posters is a bit weird. Yeah, of course we're all incredibly grateful to Sadler and I think in the main, we all seem to quite like Critch as a fella and want him to do well but there's was a tendancy to jump on stuff and characterise it as negative at times when I don't think a lot of it is.

It would be an odd board for a football board if the posts were just

"Unlucky today!"
"Yeah!"
"Gosh, if only Madine had got onto that chance"
"Yes, unlucky"
"Yes we were"
"Roll on Saturday"
"Yes!"
"Isn't everything great?"
"Would have been better if we'd won"
"Can't win em all eh?"
"True"
"Who is your favourite player?"
"All of them"
"Me too"

Etc

There's a line and I ** hate it when people just slate players like they're not human, over and over but there's absolutely no reason why a match thread when we've lost would be humming with positivity. It's just not reflective of the emotion you watch a game with and ultimately AVFTT (and whatever other forums) is the stadium ATM.
 
td53 said:
Again, yes.

We've all been at games and said 'fuckimg hell, Turton/Eardley/Burgess/Bardsley/anyone of a million different players and gone 'whst the fuck are you doing Larry/Macca/Ollie/Worthington etc... when subs have been made.

No one sits/stands there just clapping everything saying 'play up pool'

At the same time, from time to time you get sat near someone who starts with "what's that? Shite!" from the first 10 seconds and never shuts up no matter what and you just think, ** hell, give it a rest.

I think the relentless positivity of some posters is a bit weird. Yeah, of course we're all incredibly grateful to Sadler and I think in the main, we all seem to quite like Critch as a fella and want him to do well but there's was a tendancy to jump on stuff and characterise it as negative at times when I don't think a lot of it is.

It would be an odd board for a football board if the posts were just

"Unlucky today!"
"Yeah!"
"Gosh, if only Madine had got onto that chance"
"Yes, unlucky"
"Yes we were"
"Roll on Saturday"
"Yes!"
"Isn't everything great?"
"Would have been better if we'd won"
"Can't win em all eh?"
"True"
"Who is your favourite player?"
"All of them"
"Me too"

Etc

There's a line and I ** hate it when people just slate players like they're not human, over and over but there's absolutely no reason why a match thread when we've lost would be humming with positivity. It's just not reflective of the emotion you watch a game with and ultimately AVFTT (and whatever other forums) is the stadium ATM.
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I would love to get Matt Scranton to rate some of the posters on this board (me included) out of 10 every week could be amusing .as some think they are 10 out of 10 and I think they are 1 . It’s all about opinions which is what makes us what we are
 
Seasidesupporter said:
I would love to get Matt Scranton to rate some of the posters on this board (me included) out of 10 every week could be amusing .as some think they are 10 out of 10 and I think they are 1 . It’s all about opinions which is what makes us what we are
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Scrafters would give us all 7 and Paulco 6
 
poolseasider said:
Are we not allowed to comment per game on a BFC forum about a performance?
It wouldn't matter if we had Pep in charge and Messi up front if we are bad you are allowed to criticise or what's the point of posting.

These type of O/P's attacking fans for having an opinion is fracturing our fan base and equally is bad those who stick their head in the sand.
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As mentioned in my first paragraph, there are plenty of valid criticisms to be made of our performance(s). I am in no way saying this board should be a 'safe space' where we do nothing but praise the side and excuse any defeats.

However, you only have to take a look at the comments section on the clubs social media posts, alongside some of the comments made on here, that the criticism often descends into vitriol. The fact that SS went as far as alluding to that in his yearly review speaks volumes.

Without fans in the stadiums, the expressions of supporters online becomes much more significant. We have a particularly young squad, and whether you believe they should be more thick skinned or not, seeing these comments in black and white is not as fleeting an experience as having abuse hurled at you by fans during a game.

I am not calling for censorship, but I will also not hold back on criticising options that I see as unfounded and sub par.
 
ChallengerDeep said:
As mentioned in my first paragraph, there are plenty of valid criticisms to be made of our performance(s). I am in no way saying this board should be a 'safe space' where we do nothing but praise the side and excuse any defeats.

However, you only have to take a look at the comments section on the clubs social media posts, alongside some of the comments made on here, that the criticism often descends into vitriol. The fact that SS went as far as alluding to that in his yearly review speaks volumes.

Without fans in the stadiums, the expressions of supporters online becomes much more significant. We have a particularly young squad, and whether you believe they should be more thick skinned or not, seeing these comments in black and white is not as fleeting an experience as having abuse hurled at you by fans during a game.

I am not calling for censorship, but I will also not hold back on criticising options that I see as unfounded and sub par.
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That's fair enough. I do think people should remember players are human beings and it's a good point about the youth of the squad as well.
 
poolseasider said:
Are we not allowed to comment per game on a BFC forum about a performance?
It wouldn't matter if we had Pep in charge and Messi up front if we are bad you are allowed to criticise or what's the point of posting.

These type of O/P's attacking fans for having an opinion is fracturing our fan base and equally is bad those who stick their head in the sand.
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Absolutely spot on PS. There are a growing number of posters on here that trawl the pages for comments people have made in the heat of the moment during the game and try to make them out as "negative non supporters".

They are absolute WOMBLES. Going to start pulling them for it.
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
Nail on the head.
As you say so much of it stems from, for whatever reason, them not wanting Critchley in the first place.
They will not be happy until he is gone.
There is without a doubt a section of our "fans" who want us to fail purely so they can be proved right about Critchley.
We're in 13th place, months in to a long term project and people are still calling for his head. Fired for being thirteenth - what planet are they on?
It has gone way past constructive criticism

Part of it is probably down to the want it now nature of society nowadays, every loss or draw is taken as the end of the world.
I genuinely wonder how these people have watched us for so many years (if they actually have) without ending up swinging from a tree, and just as baffling is how they handle "real life" if this is how they react to a sporting event not going their way.
They seem to think we have a God given right to win every single game, and if we don't then everything is rotten to the core and should be demolished.
It doesnt seem to occur to them that there are other teams who are trying to win games too and aren't willing to roll over and let us have our way.
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The OP and this are a breath of fresh air.
 
td53 said:
Again, yes.

We've all been at games and said 'fuckimg hell, Turton/Eardley/Burgess/Bardsley/anyone of a million different players and gone 'whst the fuck are you doing Larry/Macca/Ollie/Worthington etc... when subs have been made.

No one sits/stands there just clapping everything saying 'play up pool'

At the same time, from time to time you get sat near someone who starts with "what's that? Shite!" from the first 10 seconds and never shuts up no matter what and you just think, ** hell, give it a rest.

I think the relentless positivity of some posters is a bit weird. Yeah, of course we're all incredibly grateful to Sadler and I think in the main, we all seem to quite like Critch as a fella and want him to do well but there's was a tendancy to jump on stuff and characterise it as negative at times when I don't think a lot of it is.

It would be an odd board for a football board if the posts were just

"Unlucky today!"
"Yeah!"
"Gosh, if only Madine had got onto that chance"
"Yes, unlucky"
"Yes we were"
"Roll on Saturday"
"Yes!"
"Isn't everything great?"
"Would have been better if we'd won"
"Can't win em all eh?"
"True"
"Who is your favourite player?"
"All of them"
"Me too"

Etc

There's a line and I ** hate it when people just slate players like they're not human, over and over but there's absolutely no reason why a match thread when we've lost would be humming with positivity. It's just not reflective of the emotion you watch a game with and ultimately AVFTT (and whatever other forums) is the stadium ATM.
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Nail hit on the head.

And I don't believe these happy clappy types actually exist. I think they try to garner "superfan" status on a damned message board by pulling anyone that makes a disparaging remark during the heat of battle. They never pull you up for it at the time on the match thread. It's always hours later.

Going to start pulling them for it.

So we lost. And within 5 mins there is a "The usual suspects will be along in a minute" post. Just fcuk off!
 
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