Ticket Master

Tangerine10

Tangerine10

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Ticket master are nothing more than legalised touts. Bulk buying tickets and adding a supplement. No better than the scum that hang around stadia and sell tickets above face value. Most customers resent their involvement, but they have a monopolised, parasitic stranglehold and profit from already overpriced events.
A disgusting faceless organisation and product a of a corrupt business backdrop. Their existence as a free-market principle is vile and should be illegal. IMO
 
Tangerine10 said:
Ticket master are nothing more than legalised touts. Bulk buying tickets and adding a supplement. No better than the scum that hang around stadia and sell tickets above face value. Most customers resent their involvement, but they have a monopolised, parasitic stranglehold and profit from already overpriced events.
A disgusting faceless organisation and product a of a corrupt business backdrop. Their existence as a free-market principle is vile and should be illegal. IMO
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You do know it’s world kindness day today?
 
Tangerine10 said:
Ticket master are nothing more than legalised touts. Bulk buying tickets and adding a supplement. No better than the scum that hang around stadia and sell tickets above face value. Most customers resent their involvement, but they have a monopolised, parasitic stranglehold and profit from already overpriced events.
A disgusting faceless organisation and product a of a corrupt business backdrop. Their existence as a free-market principle is vile and should be illegal. IMO
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Whats brought this on T10 not that I'm disagreeing, have you been trying to buy Taylor Swift tickets?
 
Ticket Master is bad indeed - I've reached an age now though where I just won't pay anything I think is unreasonable to see a live band. Unfortunately there are too many people happy to pay hundreds of pounds to see a band with a ticket agency taking a nice slice.

Edit to add, I recently bought two Richard Hawley tickets for next year through Ticket Master, here's a breakdown of the cost - the fees are a joke, over £15 tax essentially, when the artist will already be paying service and facility charges which will also be part of the ticket costs. The Handling fee is even worse - all done on a computer and etickets sent out, no handling involved!:

2 Unreserved Standing
£34.50 x2		£69.00
Per Item Fees
£5.25 (Service Charge Unreserved Standing) x2
£1.00 (Facility Charge Unreserved Standing) x2		£12.50
Order Processing Fees
Handling Fee (£2.85)		£2.85
Total£84.35
 
So, Ticket Master own Live Nation.
Live Nation organise tours and book venues they work with and will take a %.
They offer a tour management service which bands/acts sign if they want those venues.

Ticket Master then sells the tickets through their website which take a service fee of anything between 10% - 40%...and a £2.50 handling fee
Ticket Masters has another site that offers a resale at inflated prices...and charge those who cannot attend 15% of their ticket value to re-sell
They also get a cut of VIP tickets, boxes etc. which are typically a higher value.

So anybody touring can pay around 25% of their ticket price to Live Nation to organize the venue and Ticket Master to sell the tickets.
On a £100 ticket, Ticket Master will normally make £17.50 - £20 on top

That's why Ticket Master/Live Nation bought Lytham Festival....
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Ticket Master is bad indeed - I've reached an age now though where I just won't pay anything I think is unreasonable to see a live band. Unfortunately there are too many people happy to pay hundreds of pounds to see a band with a ticket agency taking a nice slice.
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Me too JBPS. Ive seen all the bands l want to see except maybe 1 or 2 and I definitely won't be paying several hundred for a band l saw in the 70s with original line ups and who now only have possibly 1 original left.
 
TangerineBayern said:
Me too JBPS. Ive seen all the bands l want to see except maybe 1 or 2 and I definitely won't be paying several hundred for a band l saw in the 70s with original line ups and who now only have possibly 1 original left.
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Yep snap - I'm not a mega fan but would see Bruce Springsteen, but not for the prices being charged. Like you I've seen pretty much all of the bands I want to save a couple.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
So, Ticket Master own Live Nation.
Live Nation organise tours and book venues they work with and will take a %.
They offer a tour management service which bands/acts sign if they want those venues.

Ticket Master then sells the tickets through their website which take a service fee of anything between 10% - 40%...and a £2.50 handling fee
Ticket Masters has another site that offers a resale at inflated prices...and charge those who cannot attend 15% of their ticket value to re-sell
They also get a cut of VIP tickets, boxes etc. which are typically a higher value.

So anybody touring can pay around 25% of their ticket price to Live Nation to organize the venue and Ticket Master to sell the tickets.
On a £100 ticket, Ticket Master will normally make £17.50 - £20 on top

That's why Ticket Master/Live Nation bought Lytham Festival....
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The artists haven't got much of a choice either - any decent venues on touring schedules here or in America are stitched up by them. I read about a band in America who decided to book their own independent venues - worked great in one state, but then found they were struggling after that in other states as due to the monopoly, they couldn't then find other venues.
 
I went to see the australian pink floyd in harrogate. Bought tickets on line direct from the venue, no booking fee. Concert was brilliant as well. Agree though, the ticket companies are nothing more than rip off merchants.
 
My son plays football (soccer) for a US college. Each year the top ranked 8 go to the "National Finals".
Ticket Master advertised tickets before seeding took place with the promise that these could be transferred to suit.
They have taken the purchase amount twice and provided a ticket for a venue where no game is taking place on that day.
All I wish to do is swap a ticket from one day to the other when my son is playing.
Their bots do not comprehend this and have no understanding of the nuances of the tournament.
They wish to charge me to transfer the ticket they took two debits for an amount almost as much as the ticket itself.
They have offered to sell my Friday ticket for me at a reduced rate and will take a substantial cut plus admin fee.
I am not talking big money its the principle of not having an option to purchase without getting fleeced at every angle.
Faceless organisation with a monopoly in their realm and a brief media search reveals so many with the same experience.
 
Wanted to see REM on their 1995 UK tour; before internet and mobile phones were common place.
Tickets sold out within 10 minutes while phone engaged consonantly trying to get through.
Some weeks later hundreds of tickets were advertised by Ticket Master at almost twice the price.
This company had used whatever leverage they had to harvest all ticket to then sell on.
This is legalised touting in my book and they have been getting away with it for over 30 years.
 
I was working in London in the late 60s. In 1969 I saw the Stones,King Crimson, Alex Harvey and several others in Hyde Park for free. As Mary Hopkin sang “Those were the days”
 
Green day at Old Trafford was that ridiculous that I'm refusing to pay it. After charges its nearly 170 quid a ticket!
 
This is Ska said:
I’m liking the value I get at small festivals and small venues these days.…they have nothing to do with Ticketmaster so all good on that front.
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I agree with that - went to a small festival in Wales last summer, gorgeous setting and really nice weekend, no 'star' acts but some really good unsigned bands on. I see bands in smaller venues regularly now, I've never particularly liked arenas or sitting.
 
We’re doing 2 small festivals next year
Stone Valley North (This wii be our 6th time)
3 days £109
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….and Big Love (Our first time) in South Wales ….is that the one you went to?
3 days £99
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Join us in July for the UK's friendliest small music and arts festival, 40 mins from Bristol & Cardiff. 140 acts on 6 stages, plus circus, comedy, workshops and more.
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We love the Holmfirth Picturedome as a music venue and The Brewery Arts Centre in Kendal.

Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
I agree with that - went to a small festival in Wales last summer, gorgeous setting and really nice weekend, no 'star' acts but some really good unsigned bands on. I see bands in smaller venues regularly now, I've never particularly liked arenas or sitting.
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A little epilogue to close:
Just arrived back from Pittsburgh. Three of the four games were open to the general public with no tickets necessary.
Everyone from the UK fell for that one.
I had to negotiate with the stadium security to allow me access to the final as my Ticketmaster app showed no live tickets despite 3 days of correspondence with them.

Well done TM

Won the tournament anyway ⚽
 
In 1977 I saved my dinner money and pocket money for 2 weeks to buy a Status Quo ticket at Blackpool for £2.50
 
Michael Rapino, the CEO of Live Nation (that owns Ticketmaster), was paid $139m in 2022. So all those charges don't go to waste but help reward this gloriously under-valued individual.
 
bollieboy said:
Michael Rapino, the CEO of Live Nation (that owns Ticketmaster), was paid $139m in 2022. So all those charges don't go to waste but help reward this gloriously under-valued individual.
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Hope he gave some of the cash to his daughter Megan....😜
 
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