Time wasting

Excuses again ffs we are shit get over it always someone else’s fault the ref there players there fans playing on a Wednesday we really have got the moanist fans going just get a grip they definitely deserved there win
 
Excuses again ffs we are shit get over it always someone else’s fault the ref there players there fans playing on a Wednesday we really have got the moanist fans going just get a grip they definitely deserved there win
Totally agree we had 85 minutes to put it right before they started with the fake injuries which we knew they would do as every other team would have done.
 
I totally agree we were shite, but still it’s spoiling the games when they are led on the floor at the slightest touch.
Suppose it’s depends on the referee if he ignores the bullshit, if he lets it carry on they’d soon be back up
 
Players following treatment from head injuries should leave the field of play for 3 mins. Could this stop players from feigning injury ?.
 
If the physio comes on, 3 mins on the side line will stop it.
You ain’t going to leave your team mates under pressure at the end of the match when a team is pressing for an equaliser
 
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Players following treatment from head injuries should leave the field of play for 3 mins. Could this stop players from feigning injury ?.
What if a player is genuinely injured and not feigning injury. Why should a genuinely injured player be punished by having to leave the field of play for 3 minutes?
 
Getting worse by the week, teams leading and players staying down so the physio comes on for the last 15 mins of a game, bad enough in the premiership but getting a lot worse in the championship as well, needs clamping down on
The reason I’ve pretty much fallen out of love with football.

We pay good money to watch 90 minutes of football/entertainment. We actually get to watch the ball in play about 53/54 minutes on average per game.

The clock needs to stop when the game is on hold, like rugby. It’s the only way this pathetic time wasting tactic will stop. It’s totally embarrassing watching ‘grown men’ squeal and roll around like they do, only to get up 2 minutes later and are fine.
 
The reason I’ve pretty much fallen out of love with football.

We pay good money to watch 90 minutes of football/entertainment. We actually get to watch the ball in play about 53/54 minutes on average per game.

The clock needs to stop when the game is on hold, like rugby. It’s the only way this pathetic time wasting tactic will stop. It’s totally embarrassing watching ‘grown men’ squeal and told around like they do, only to get up 2 minutes later and are fine.
The daft thing in all this, is that everyone knows what's going on. Go down, break the game up, stop the momentum and regroup etc...Even more absurd, is the fact that last night Theo got a knock from a foul that brought their lad a yellow card and Theo's the one that had to go off the pitch leaving us to play with 10 for 30 seconds (or whatever). Totally backward thinking that's about as far from encouraging positive football as it can get.
 
The daft thing in all this, is that everyone knows what's going on. Go down, break the game up, stop the momentum and regroup etc...Even more absurd, is the fact that last night Theo got a knock from a foul that brought their lad a yellow card and Theo's the one that had to go off the pitch leaving us to play with 10 for 30 seconds (or whatever). Totally backward thinking that's about as far from encouraging positive football as it can get.
It seriously needs addressing.

Like you say, everyone knows what’s going on. So I’m surprised that it doesn’t get more discussion among fans, as it’s the fans who pay good money to be entertained.

Unfortunately this unhealthy disease has well and truly spread to the Championship from the Premier League.
 
How about introducing a new 'Law'.
If a player goes down, and the physio comes on, the 'injured player has to stay off the field for 'say' 5 minutes'?
Or even 10 mins.
 
Time keeping has to be taken out of the hands of refs. throw ins, corners, goal kicks and free kicks have a set amount of time to be taken then the clock stops, and its displayed for everyone to see, doesn't start again until the ball is back in play, or even better if its not taken in a set amount of time then possession goes to the opposing team, time wasting at goal kick leads to possession to the opposition at the half way line. Wouldn't be difficult to implement and would cut out what is becoming a real problem. Read something recently that a recent PL game had just 42 minutes of actual play. Paying supporters don't really want to watch it either.

The six second rule for keepers, introduced because refs didn't enforce the 4 steps rule, is never enforced. Its an easy way to run down 20 seconds.

No doubt though with the way the administrators work in England, a professional timekeepers association would be set up to recruit a bunch of numpties who either couldn't count and / or couldn't operate a stop watch
 
If they add the time on it they could still do it but delays the final whistle, to have a player on the side line for a few mins would let his team mates down being a player short and under pressure so would stop them in the first place
 
How about introducing a new 'Law'.
If a player goes down, and the physio comes on, the 'injured player has to stay off the field for 'say' 5 minutes'?
Or even 10 mins.
think that thru Dav. There's plenty of players injured by bad fouls. Seems you are suggesting you can get away with a bad foul because the injured player will have to leave the pitch and then you'll get a numerical advantage for five or ten minutes. There isn't a straight forward answer.
 
It seriously needs addressing.

Like you say, everyone knows what’s going on. So I’m surprised that it doesn’t get more discussion among fans, as it’s the fans who pay good money to be entertained.

Unfortunately this unhealthy disease has well and truly spread to the Championship from the Premier League.
Don't think stopping the clock would work. Firstly the ref would be adding time on anyway, and secondly teams fake injuries to disrupt the flow of the game, especially when your opponent is starting to get on top. Something needs doing though, and the removal for three minutes or whatever after the 'injury' seems the best approach. I think genuine head injuries are quite rare, (they were rare in the days of Brenner, Chopper McPhee et al , and some of the challenges then were murderous) In any case, if a player stays down and its genuine he SHOULD go off. Then he can be subbed.
 
think that thru Dav. There's plenty of players injured by bad fouls. Seems you are suggesting you can get away with a bad foul because the injured player will have to leave the pitch and then you'll get a numerical advantage for five or ten minutes. There isn't a straight forward answer.
The thing is, if a player has a genuine head injury he should be properly examined by a doctor not just a physio.
More and more ex players are now displaying symptoms of early onset dementia so let's look after them.
If a player is really hurt I can't imagine them complaining about going off the pitch to be check out if they object then they aren't hurt and should be booked for cheating.
 
The thing is, if a player has a genuine head injury he should be properly examined by a doctor not just a physio.
More and more ex players are now displaying symptoms of early onset dementia so let's look after them.
If a player is really hurt I can't imagine them complaining about going off the pitch to be check out if they object then they aren't hurt and should be booked for cheating.
but you can't set an amount of time!
 
I'm of the opinion that FIFA should change the approach to game timing.

Having a big clock that the ref can pause and resume and that is also linked to ball tracking at any time (for when ball leaves field of play) that is visible to all.

Basically then, the clock stops instantly as soon as there's any break in play. When we reach 45 mins or 90 mins, as in Rugby Union, the ref then calls time the next time there's a stoppage in play or if not (given this could cause cases of deliberate fouls, etc), at a convenient point in play as they do now (e.g. when the ball is in a non-threatening area of the pitch).

This way, game timing would be far more consistent and time wasting would die out overnight.
 
but you can't set an amount of time!
I don't think you should put a time on it, if a lad has had a real smack on the head he should be properly examined if there are signs of concussion he stays off the pitch, if he's OK he returns. It's all about player safety.
 
I don't think you should put a time on it, if a lad has had a real smack on the head he should be properly examined if there are signs of concussion he stays off the pitch, if he's OK he returns. It's all about player safety.
Agree, but my point was to Dav that you can't set a time limit. Sure, it's frustrating when people feign injury to time waste but by doing what Dav suggests could well be punishing a team and player who requires genuine treatment and that treatment or assessment could last less than ten minutes. It's a very sticky wicket going down that route.
 
Did I mention a 'Time limit'?
I know there are serious injuries, the Physio comes on and sees what's wrong. If the player needs more attention then get a stretcher
and carry/roll him off.
There are far too many fake injuries when the player is running about like hare as soon as the match restarts.
If the player is seriously injured then the game is held up until he is wheeled away.
 
Treat players on the pitch whilst the game is going on. Simple. I agree with the original post, irrespective of whether it’s the opposition, us or on the TV. It’s genuinely a nail in the coffin.
 
Yes I did.
5 or 10 mins.
What is wrong with 5 mins?
If they are truly injured (like they pretend) then 5 mins is OK.
because it's a grey area and if a player is truly[badly] injured then he'll be substituted. Time wasting is frustrating but it can be a hard call for a referee at the time to differentiate between a genuine injury and time wasting. As I said, think you're getting on a sticky wicket by having a time period. Especially when it comes to a case where a team could be a man down potentially through no fault of their own.
 
because it's a grey area and if a player is truly[badly] injured then he'll be substituted. Time wasting is frustrating but it can be a hard call for a referee at the time to differentiate between a genuine injury and time wasting. As I said, think you're getting on a sticky wicket by having a time period. Especially when it comes to a case where a team could be a man down potentially through no fault of their own.
I agree it's a difficult position for the referee, the Sheffield goal keeper the other night was a perfect example, the Blackpool player literally walked into him in front of the ref and he feigned a head injury, the ref was actually stood next to him but I suppose to cover himself he had to play the game and call the physio who messed around for 5 or 6 minutes.Which is why it should be taken out of the referees hands, head injury off the pitch.
 
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