Today was stagnation over improvement

Rektseasider

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I think as a fan base we’re letting ourselves down by seeing today as a step in the right direction.

This isn’t a post calling for Critchleys head as I think there’s still time for him to be a success and I can see a pathway for him to achieve it with the players we’ve recruited and the club firing on all cylinders behind the scenes.

However it is, probably more than anything a highlighter over some very worrying signs for me.

Our set up from the get go at Plymouth and beyond has laid a foundation of possession but with that comes a side effect of impotency, the worrying sign here is that Critch must have seen this and hasn’t seemed to act on it.

Back to today’s match, and despite getting a point I feel really underwhelmed.

We had a fantastic opening 10 to 15 minutes. The passing seemed slick and sharp, finding feet with some lovely pass and move combinations, it wasn’t advancing football but away from home it was a solid and exciting start. I felt that buzz again and began to get excited for the game.

Slowly but surely Crewe regained themselves, Artell identified the problem and doubled up on CJ, we failed to see this and stuck to our guns,and really bar Yates deflected shot they completely nullified us. By half time the feel good feeling had gone with the lack of goal threat.

Now credit where it’s due, defensively we have clearly worked hard on the training pitch and have a far better composure and shape.

I think out of all the points I noticed today the most worrying was the twenty minutes after half time. For me here, Artell out coached Critch. He saw we could be over run in the midfield and were exposed in the full back area, there were 5 or 6 time’s in that period where we lost the ball or were over run in the middle, the ball went straight out wide and we became clumsy in the box, we could have been 3 down by 60 minutes. Fortunately it was only one.

This can happen in a game granted, worryingly Critch changed nothing, sticking to his guns when it clearly needed a tweek.

With the players becoming Increasingly more frustrated I think they took it upon them selves to start launching balls forward, which for what it’s worth brought about our equaliser. So for all the hype and outlay on players the kick and rush tactics for the second part of the second half brought us the most joy. Which is incredibly disappointing considering the new dawn we’ve all bought into.

Critch seemed to not be able to identify tactical shifts through the game, I was over the moon to see CJ and Yates swap wings on around 70 minutes which shows just how ridged we usually are.

Crewe were no great shakes today, and it required some tactical nouse today to over come them which was sadly lacking.

I think this now is going above, the managing director, the recruiting staff or the players and their positions. Somethings missing from Critchley, I’m becoming increasingly concerned. But hope I’m eating my words in a few months.
 
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Memphisboy

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Good summary. I could understand if we had them on the ropes and were hitting the bar every five mins not bringing the subs on but we weren’t. We created nothing all game. The only time you thought something might happen was a lofted ball into the box and hoping Madine might flick it on and it might fall at someone’s feet. Basically route 1 was the only way we were ever going to score.
 

Rektseasider

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Rekt. I agree with some of your observations but I think overall you are being a bit too negative.
Look at the stats thread.
Maybe I was too subtle but my overall point was that we seemed to dominate possession and generally the game, should have won the game but found a way to be average when we should have found a way to excel.

It is early days still with time for it to come together. Just some basic coaching and tactical points you’d hope someone with NC’s credentials to spot and exploit.
 

Kip

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It's interesting that you thought we could have been 3 down in that game.

Today shows how you can reduce threats on your goal by retaining possession. But the back four isn't right; Husband isn't a centre-half and Mitchell isn't a good enough full-back at the moment. The guy looks like a walking penalty. Luckily, we have an international centre-half on the bench and natural left-back that can be pushed outside from the centre.

Hamilton and Yates have been swapping wings pretty much every game of the season. Hamilton is exactly as you would imagine; inconsistent but a big enough potential threat to keep the defence occupied. Madine played well and Yates had a bit of an off-day with his first touch.

Williams had his best game today allowing Robson to dictate more of the midfield going forward rather than trying to do everything. Ward was becoming anonymous but took his goal well and had a good last 20.

I'm ok with where we are at the moment. The Radio Stoke guys thought we would be 'up there' at the end of the season and, given the depth in the squad, that seems a reasonable assessment. I think Crictchley has the basic coaching points sorted. It's about the players gaining experience together. I would definitely start with Ballard on Tuesday.
 

Insider

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Rekt. It's all down to strikers striking, mid-fielders shooting on target from outside the box and defeners scoring from well delivered set pieces. All of which need work on the training pitch.
 

Rektseasider

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It's interesting that you thought we could have been 3 down in that game.

Today shows how you can reduce threats on your goal by retaining possession. But the back four isn't right; Husband isn't a centre-half and Mitchell isn't a good enough full-back at the moment. The guy looks like a walking penalty. Luckily, we have an international centre-half on the bench and natural left-back that can be pushed outside from the centre.

Hamilton and Yates have been swapping wings pretty much every game of the season. Hamilton is exactly as you would imagine; inconsistent but a big enough potential threat to keep the defence occupied. Madine played well and Yates had a bit of an off-day with his first touch.

Williams had his best game today allowing Robson to dictate more of the midfield going forward rather than trying to do everything. Ward was becoming anonymous but took his goal well and had a good last 20.

I'm ok with where we are at the moment. The Radio Stoke guys thought we would be 'up there' at the end of the season and, given the depth in the squad, that seems a reasonable assessment. I think Crictchley has the basic coaching points sorted. It's about the players gaining experience together. I would definitely start with Ballard on Tuesday.
Fair enough, I saw the game completely differently to most of what you’ve said. I hope I’m wrong and you’re right.

In the period just after half time there was the goal, the ball that was flashed across the 6 yard box and the two Crewe lads couldn’t get on the end of it and one where their striker broke through and I think it was Husband that got back to make a good tackle.

I agree that’s not the back four we need or will continue with, but they did ok today for me.

Agree Williams and Robson did well, but how we’re set up going forward is stifling us leading to Yates and Madine cutting frustrating figures. I’d completely disagree that Yates and Hamilton have been swapping wings in every game. Firstly Yates was playing centrally up until last week. CJ had been playing right wing for all of them getting marked out of the Ipswich game.

Again Critch could turn this all around when the new signings get going, I’m no doom and gloom merchant. Just some very worrying signs.
 
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Rektseasider

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Rekt. It's all down to strikers striking, mid-fielders shooting on target from outside the box and defeners scoring from well delivered set pieces. All of which need work on the training pitch.
But for me the set up is stifling their ability to do this.

Time will tell, I could be way off but somethings just not right for me at the moment.

More than happy to eat humble pie at the end of the season.
 
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Seasidesupporter

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I think as a fan base we’re letting ourselves down by seeing today as a step in the right direction.

This isn’t a post calling for Critchleys head as I think there’s still time for him to be a success and I can see a pathway for him to achieve it with the players we’ve recruited and the club firing on all cylinders behind the scenes.

However it is, probably more than anything a highlighter over some very worrying signs for me.

Our set up from the get go at Plymouth and beyond has laid a foundation of possession but with that comes a side effect of impotency, the worrying sign here is that Critch must have seen this and hasn’t seemed to act on it.

Back to today’s match, and despite getting a point I feel really underwhelmed.

We had a fantastic opening 10 to 15 minutes. The passing seemed slick and sharp, finding feet with some lovely pass and move combinations, it wasn’t advancing football but away from home it was a solid and exciting start. I felt that buzz again and began to get excited for the game.

Slowly but surely Crewe regained themselves, Artell identified the problem and doubled up on CJ, we failed to see this and stuck to our guns,and really bar Yates deflected shot they completely nullified us. By half time the feel good feeling had gone with the lack of goal threat.

Now credit where it’s due, defensively we have clearly worked hard on the training pitch and have a far better composure and shape.

I think out of all the points I noticed today the most worrying was the twenty minutes after half time. For me here, Artell out coached Critch. He saw we could be over run in the midfield and were exposed in the full back area, there were 5 or 6 time’s in that period where we lost the ball or were over run in the middle, the ball went straight out wide and we became clumsy in the box, we could have been 3 down by 60 minutes. Fortunately it was only one.

This can happen in a game granted, worryingly Critch changed nothing, sticking to his guns when it clearly needed a tweek.

With the players becoming Increasingly more frustrated I think they took it upon them selves to start launching balls forward, which for what it’s worth brought about our equaliser. So for all the hype and outlay on players the kick and rush tactics for the second part of the second half brought us the most joy. Which is incredibly disappointing considering the new dawn we’ve all bought into.

Critch seemed to not be able to identify tactical shifts through the game, I was over the moon to see CJ and Yates swap wings on around 70 minutes which shows just how ridged we usually are.

Crewe were no great shakes today, and it required some tactical nouse today to over come them which was sadly lacking.

I think this now is going above, the managing director, the recruiting staff or the players and their positions. Somethings missing from Critchley, I’m becoming increasingly concerned. But hope I’m eating my words in a few months.
You should be on the touch line for the next game pure genius that
 

voyeur

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It's interesting that you thought we could have been 3 down in that game.

Today shows how you can reduce threats on your goal by retaining possession. But the back four isn't right; Husband isn't a centre-half and Mitchell isn't a good enough full-back at the moment. The guy looks like a walking penalty. Luckily, we have an international centre-half on the bench and natural left-back that can be pushed outside from the centre.

Hamilton and Yates have been swapping wings pretty much every game of the season. Hamilton is exactly as you would imagine; inconsistent but a big enough potential threat to keep the defence occupied. Madine played well and Yates had a bit of an off-day with his first touch.

Williams had his best game today allowing Robson to dictate more of the midfield going forward rather than trying to do everything. Ward was becoming anonymous but took his goal well and had a good last 20.

I'm ok with where we are at the moment. The Radio Stoke guys thought we would be 'up there' at the end of the season and, given the depth in the squad, that seems a reasonable assessment. I think Crictchley has the basic coaching points sorted. It's about the players gaining experience together. I would definitely start with Ballard on Tuesday.
Excellent summary that, agree 100%.
 

AngelBFC

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I think as a fan base we’re letting ourselves down by seeing today as a step in the right direction.

This isn’t a post calling for Critchleys head as I think there’s still time for him to be a success and I can see a pathway for him to achieve it with the players we’ve recruited and the club firing on all cylinders behind the scenes.

However it is, probably more than anything a highlighter over some very worrying signs for me.

Our set up from the get go at Plymouth and beyond has laid a foundation of possession but with that comes a side effect of impotency, the worrying sign here is that Critch must have seen this and hasn’t seemed to act on it.

Back to today’s match, and despite getting a point I feel really underwhelmed.

We had a fantastic opening 10 to 15 minutes. The passing seemed slick and sharp, finding feet with some lovely pass and move combinations, it wasn’t advancing football but away from home it was a solid and exciting start. I felt that buzz again and began to get excited for the game.

Slowly but surely Crewe regained themselves, Artell identified the problem and doubled up on CJ, we failed to see this and stuck to our guns,and really bar Yates deflected shot they completely nullified us. By half time the feel good feeling had gone with the lack of goal threat.

Now credit where it’s due, defensively we have clearly worked hard on the training pitch and have a far better composure and shape.

I think out of all the points I noticed today the most worrying was the twenty minutes after half time. For me here, Artell out coached Critch. He saw we could be over run in the midfield and were exposed in the full back area, there were 5 or 6 time’s in that period where we lost the ball or were over run in the middle, the ball went straight out wide and we became clumsy in the box, we could have been 3 down by 60 minutes. Fortunately it was only one.

This can happen in a game granted, worryingly Critch changed nothing, sticking to his guns when it clearly needed a tweek.

With the players becoming Increasingly more frustrated I think they took it upon them selves to start launching balls forward, which for what it’s worth brought about our equaliser. So for all the hype and outlay on players the kick and rush tactics for the second part of the second half brought us the most joy. Which is incredibly disappointing considering the new dawn we’ve all bought into.

Critch seemed to not be able to identify tactical shifts through the game, I was over the moon to see CJ and Yates swap wings on around 70 minutes which shows just how ridged we usually are.

Crewe were no great shakes today, and it required some tactical nouse today to over come them which was sadly lacking.

I think this now is going above, the managing director, the recruiting staff or the players and their positions. Somethings missing from Critchley, I’m becoming increasingly concerned. But hope I’m eating my words in a few months.
Rubbish

The fact that we got a draw is an improvement
 

Seaside shuffle

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Fair enough, I saw the game completely differently to most of what you’ve said. I hope I’m wrong and you’re right.

In the period just after half time there was the goal, the ball that was flashed across the 6 yard box and the two Crewe lads couldn’t get on the end of it and one where their striker broke through and I think it was Husband that got back to make a good tackle.

I agree that’s not the back four we need or will continue with, but they did ok today for me.

Agree Williams and Robson did well, but how we’re set up going forward is stifling us leading to Yates and Madine cutting frustrating figures. I’d completely disagree that Yates and Hamilton have been swapping wings in every game. Firstly Yates was playing centrally up until last week. CJ had been playing right wing for all of them getting marked out of the Ipswich game.

Again Critch could turn this all around when the new signings get going, I’m no doom and gloom merchant. Just some very worrying sings.
It's still very early days for Critch and this squad. That back four will alter and become stronger , giving us more confidence to push and overload going forward. Dougall should come in to allow the midfield to link better with the attack ,in particular being able to get beyond their backline. Woodburn to be given attacking licence, Kaikai to flourish, the squad to develop as they get to know the system and each other.
I can only see positives over the next 2 seasons. Sadly it requires some patience ,which modern day fans seem to lack. I remain positive and upbeat.

I think as a fan base we’re letting ourselves down by seeing today as a step in the right direction.

This isn’t a post calling for Critchleys head as I think there’s still time for him to be a success and I can see a pathway for him to achieve it with the players we’ve recruited and the club firing on all cylinders behind the scenes.

However it is, probably more than anything a highlighter over some very worrying signs for me.

Our set up from the get go at Plymouth and beyond has laid a foundation of possession but with that comes a side effect of impotency, the worrying sign here is that Critch must have seen this and hasn’t seemed to act on it.

Back to today’s match, and despite getting a point I feel really underwhelmed.

We had a fantastic opening 10 to 15 minutes. The passing seemed slick and sharp, finding feet with some lovely pass and move combinations, it wasn’t advancing football but away from home it was a solid and exciting start. I felt that buzz again and began to get excited for the game.

Slowly but surely Crewe regained themselves, Artell identified the problem and doubled up on CJ, we failed to see this and stuck to our guns,and really bar Yates deflected shot they completely nullified us. By half time the feel good feeling had gone with the lack of goal threat.

Now credit where it’s due, defensively we have clearly worked hard on the training pitch and have a far better composure and shape.

I think out of all the points I noticed today the most worrying was the twenty minutes after half time. For me here, Artell out coached Critch. He saw we could be over run in the midfield and were exposed in the full back area, there were 5 or 6 time’s in that period where we lost the ball or were over run in the middle, the ball went straight out wide and we became clumsy in the box, we could have been 3 down by 60 minutes. Fortunately it was only one.

This can happen in a game granted, worryingly Critch changed nothing, sticking to his guns when it clearly needed a tweek.

With the players becoming Increasingly more frustrated I think they took it upon them selves to start launching balls forward, which for what it’s worth brought about our equaliser. So for all the hype and outlay on players the kick and rush tactics for the second part of the second half brought us the most joy. Which is incredibly disappointing considering the new dawn we’ve all bought into.

Critch seemed to not be able to identify tactical shifts through the game, I was over the moon to see CJ and Yates swap wings on around 70 minutes which shows just how ridged we usually are.

Crewe were no great shakes today, and it required some tactical nouse today to over come them which was sadly lacking.

I think this now is going above, the managing director, the recruiting staff or the players and their positions. Somethings missing from Critchley, I’m becoming increasingly concerned. But hope I’m eating my words in a few months.
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