Tonight's meeting

RambleFan said:
That was cleared up, nobody said stop singing it. The person who had to be spoken to was because he was filmed on several occasions and the complainant would take it further if he wasn't spoken to.
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Ffs, so all that huffing and puffing for nowt?

This is a bit like in preseason with the Sadler censoring fans thread which was another meltdown on here which was pointless and unnecessary.

Seems to be the same people starting or involved in these threads and panicking, but it's seemingly never as bad as claimed and Chinese whispers often making things worse and people running with a completely exaggerated version.

Why do some instantly go into panic mode from snippets of often wrong information?
 
Dougallsdouble said:
The bureaucracy of the Blackpool Council is a joke
AKA Blackpool Clowncil.
Our council is one of the worst in the country.
The Clowncil for years has been out of touch with it's residents and football supporters.
They were soft on the Oystains and hardly got involved until we got in the premier league.
Just look at all the boarded up shops and cafes around Bond Street, the prom and town centre.
clubs and bars struggling like hell.
They have driven away the fun and party culture.
No breaks on business rates or council tax.
They have had their own agenda. A staged managed decline of the town for the last 20 years to get funding from Westminster.
At least they have done right the Tossers!
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Agree about the Council’s silence equating to being complicit with the Oystons - that’s why a few of us got together to try and oust the then leader (Simon Blackburn) in the local election.

A lot of under-investment is the result central government policy reducing funding
 
I see a couple of my contributions to this thread have been removed since last night.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned which I feel is very relevant is the number of people per row. It is not the case that people can be moved from the aisles into a row of seats meaning that there are more bodies than seats, it means that we all have to use the seat we have been sold, whether our mate or mates are in that area or not. Any overcrowding of the seating will be reported by the spotters who will be in attendance and this could also result in further actions against the club.

The club need our assistance to put this to bed once and for all, they are dealing with officials who have little sense of humour, have a job to do and will do it, come hell or high water. We can protest all we wish, we can blame others, but it is down to us, the top and bottom of the whole thing is we must all assist the club in ensuring that any further action is not taken against them.
 
Curryman said:
I see a couple of my contributions to this thread have been removed since last night.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned which I feel is very relevant is the number of people per row. It is not the case that people can be moved from the aisles into a row of seats meaning that there are more bodies than seats, it means that we all have to use the seat we have been sold, whether our mate or mates are in that area or not. Any overcrowding of the seating will be reported by the spotters who will be in attendance and this could also result in further actions against the club.

The club need our assistance to put this to bed once and for all, they are dealing with officials who have little sense of humour, have a job to do and will do it, come hell or high water. We can protest all we wish, we can blame others, but it is down to us, the top and bottom of the whole thing is we must all assist the club in ensuring that any further action is not taken against them.
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For officials read jobsworths.
 
Curryman said:
I see a couple of my contributions to this thread have been removed since last night.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned which I feel is very relevant is the number of people per row. It is not the case that people can be moved from the aisles into a row of seats meaning that there are more bodies than seats, it means that we all have to use the seat we have been sold, whether our mate or mates are in that area or not. Any overcrowding of the seating will be reported by the spotters who will be in attendance and this could also result in further actions against the club.

The club need our assistance to put this to bed once and for all, they are dealing with officials who have little sense of humour, have a job to do and will do it, come hell or high water. We can protest all we wish, we can blame others, but it is down to us, the top and bottom of the whole thing is we must all assist the club in ensuring that any further action is not taken against them.
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Are you sure you're not on about the other longer thread ? Fans groups meeting with the club tomorrow evening?
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
So did anybody actually ask why we have spent virtually nothing in the transfer window and what is the ambition within the club or are we too busy piss arsing about worrying about a lot of hot air. I know it will upset some on here but if you are going to get offended by some distasteful and politically incorrect language then football probably isn’t the ideal game for you to watch live. We have a family stand and a happy clappy nicey nicey west stand if you want to keep your distance and you can ignore what is going on in the naughty north stand. I can assure I have been called a fat bastard a bald bastard and an even an ugly bastard (hard to believe I know) and I am yet to be offended or burst into tears. I guess I’m just a dinosaur thick skinned or just thick but I’m there to watch football and take in the atmosphere. Let’s get 3 or 4 quality signings in either permanent or on loan and all try to play nicely.
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I won’t mention names but I stopped behind for a few minutes after the meeting and the two club employees that I spoke to were quietly confident that we would see more signings this week before the transfer window closes. The problem they explained with the slow transfer window is that Championship teams can now name 9 players on the bench (hadn’t heard anything about this myself) and are being less inclined to release players to lower league clubs until they see how their season is going 👍🏼
 
Northstandsinger said:
How come I can walk in the ground and stand up while I drink beer, I can then walk out and stand up at the front for half an hour while watching the teams warm up, I can walk down to the front at half time and stand in the gangway for 15 minutes, I can stand when we score, stand when we get a corner ? Someone needs to tell everyone the rules as to when standing up is allowed and it isn’t allowed and when stand at the front is allowed but isn’t allowed the whole thing when you think about it is an absolute joke.
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The charge from the officious FA was relating to a possible crush scenario. How can this happen if one person stands at one seat was agreed by all that it couldn’t…… it could though if 100 people all went tumbling down the stairs together (still slightly unbelievable to me who has been going to football for 50 years but hey ho that’s what the club is up against 🙄)
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s only a joke though until some kind of disaster happens and people get unnecessarily killed as a result. It can happen and it has happened in the past, so it’s important and necessary to have some rules.

Our Club tends to be pretty relaxed about many of the ‘rules’ that others tend to be more on top about. Reality is that you should never be stood in the hatches areas, never congregate in gangways, always be seated etc..

If the Council are doing an inspection, then I suppose we all need to ‘play the game, to a certain extent. We have it pretty good as things stand and it would be daft to fuck that up.
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When was the last time someone was crushed in a football ground ?
 
Northstandsinger said:
When was the last time someone was crushed in a football ground ?
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What difference does that make ?

Accidents and disasters tend to happen infrequently and catch people unawares… It isn’t just about crushes either…

An individual might require emergency treatment (as we saw at Fulham Away), An Ambulance might need access into the Stadium, there might be a Fire, a terrorist attack, a partial stand collapse, a natural disaster, a plane crash, a knife wielding nutter, a fight…Who knows?

There’s loads of good reasons why you would want to keep exits and gangways clear from obstruction…

I really don’t understand why it is that anyone would want to be so awkward about it to be honest. It just feels like a classic case of rebellious teenager syndrome… simply not liking being told / asked to behave in a reasonable way.

As I said, if there’s an inspection, then (as CM) says, they really won’t give a fuck about the whys and wherefores… They’ll just write their report based on what they see…

As I see it, it makes sense for the Club to get in contact with supporters and it makes sense for the supporters to play the game…. I don’t see why anyone would want to be awkward about it really.
 
Looking at the North from the South every game, it appears lads are buying tickets around the NW corner and going over to stand with the muckers. That was the case for the last 2 seasons so I'm surprised its taken them this long to react.
We live in an era where the inside of football grounds are very controlled places and all those who remember the 70s and 80s will know the reasons why.
 
AllTheBoysAreCheerin' said:
Presumably before the safety standards, that we appear to be in breach of, were put in place. Just a guess.
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No it happened because thousand lad of people broke into a football ground which was way over captivity, not something that happens at Bloomfield road.

So can you please explain why standing at the front for half an hour while the players warm up is ok ??
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
What difference does that make ?

Accidents and disasters tend to happen infrequently and catch people unawares… It isn’t just about crushes either…

An individual might require emergency treatment (as we saw at Fulham Away), An Ambulance might need access into the Stadium, there might be a Fire, a terrorist attack, a partial stand collapse, a natural disaster, a plane crash, a knife wielding nutter, a fight…Who knows?

There’s loads of good reasons why you would want to keep exits and gangways clear from obstruction…

I really don’t understand why it is that anyone would want to be so awkward about it to be honest. It just feels like a classic case of rebellious teenager syndrome… simply not liking being told / asked to behave in a reasonable way.

As I said, if there’s an inspection, then (as CM) says, they really won’t give a fuck about the whys and wherefores… They’ll just write their report based on what they see…

As I see it, it makes sense for the Club to get in contact with supporters and it makes sense for the supporters to play the game…. I don’t see why anyone would want to be awkward about it really.
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Games are all ticket now so there’s never going to be crushes.
You’re using what ifs.
Like 4 people stood at the bottom Will stop someone getting medical attention.
You’re a proper melt.
 
Northstandsinger said:
Games are all ticket now so there’s never going to be crushes.
You’re using what ifs.
Like 4 people stood at the bottom Will stop someone getting medical attention.
You’re a proper melt.
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I’m not being funny mate, but you’re being ridiculous and a bit childish on this. I don’t get it, because as I see it you’re by no means an idiot.

The whole point of any health and safety measures is to plan for ‘what ifs’… It’s about planning for worst case scenarios… They wouldn’t be ‘emergencies’ if they weren’t ‘what if’s’!!

If we simply assume that there will never be any kind of emergency, then we’d never actually take any measures to try and prevent injury or loss of life.

People have lost their lives in football stadiums…. They lost their lives, because of poor planning and preparation and the failure to implement the kind of measures we see in modern stadiums…. We should count ourselves fortunate that we have facilities and proper safety measures in place.

I don’t understand why you feel the need to keep throwing out insults directed at me personally?

Why the need to call me a melt? What is it that I’ve said that causes such an issue and why do you choose to target your frustration on me, rather than contacting the Club?

Also what is your actual problem?

What specifically is it that you want to be able to do that you feel you can’t?
 
Northstandsinger said:
No it happened because thousand lad of people broke into a football ground which was way over captivity, not something that happens at Bloomfield road.

So can you please explain why standing at the front for half an hour while the players warm up is ok ??
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You didn't ask me why it happened, you asked when it last happened.

I assume it's ok half an hour before kick off because there's very few people in the stadium at that point but on the occasions where I've arrived early, stewards have been asking people to move top their seats when the stadium is getting busier.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not being funny mate, but you’re being ridiculous and a bit childish on this. I don’t get it, because as I see it you’re by no means an idiot.

The whole point of any health and safety measures is to plan for ‘what ifs’… It’s about planning for worst case scenarios… They wouldn’t be ‘emergencies’ if they weren’t ‘what if’s’!!

If we simply assume that there will never be any kind of emergency, then we’d never actually take any measures to try and prevent injury or loss of life.

People have lost their lives in football stadiums…. They lost their lives, because of poor planning and preparation and the failure to implement the kind of measures we see in modern stadiums…. We should count ourselves fortunate that we have facilities and proper safety measures in place.

I don’t understand why you feel the need to keep throwing out insults directed at me personally?

Why the need to call me a melt? What is it that I’ve said that causes such an issue and why do you choose to target your frustration on me, rather than contacting the Club?

Also what is your actual problem?

What specifically is it that you want to be able to do that you feel you can’t?
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To be honest you’re mostly right about the h&s stuff.
What I really don’t like are the people who if they don’t like something they think that everyone else shouldn’t able to do or say it. Which is the way this world seems to be going and it’s so exhausting.
 
Northstandsinger said:
To be honest you’re mostly right about the h&s stuff.
What I really don’t like are the people who if they don’t like something they think that everyone else shouldn’t able to do or say it. Which is the way this world seems to be going and it’s so exhausting.
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We all have opinions on stuff…

I have my personal reasons for not liking the ‘tits and fannies’ chant… I have two daughters, I understand (through bitter experience) how that kind of seemingly ‘harmless fun’ can have incredibly negative and damaging consequences.

I don’t expect everyone to understand that… And it’s not particularly their issue, it’s mine.

I don’t expect people to stop singing the song though… It makes no difference… I’m not offended by it, but I do think it’s pathetic and I can recognise the negative impact it can have. I’d be happy if they did stop singing it, but apart from thinking it’s a bit cringey, I don’t really care too much…. I also don’t understand why people are so arsed about keeping it (although I can understand why people don’t want to be told what to do or for the club to behave like big brother)

Quite what’s going on at the club right now I’m not sure. From what I can grasp, the Council are just doing an inspection and so the Club wants us to reign in for a game or two ?

If that’s all that’s going on, then I think it’s reasonable enough for the fans to play ball and let the Council do their inspections and write their report….. That way we can hopefully get back to normal, instead of being forced to implement more rules, which I really don’t think any of us want.
 
TSSeasider said:
Assuming there haven't been complaints, someone, somewhere, is worried about a hypothetical potential problem.

Assuming 300 home matches over the last 10 years, how many actual incidents/near misses have there been and been more difficult because people had been standing in the aisles, and that needs comparing with the away fans.

My guess, there have been far more concerns in the away end, than the North.
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Agreed. The no standing in the aisle issue is only a small problem in the North its in the away end where the issues are in that respect. When in the Championship last season when there were some large away following you could hardly see the aisles because they were rammed with supporters.
As has been mentioned it's the job of the stewards to keep the areas clear but they can't be bothered but would you want to go in the away end to "politely" ask them to shift.....
Yes fans often stand in the away end but as a general rule it is not that common to see them blocking the aisles except at Blackpool.
 
TSSeasider said:
Assuming there haven't been complaints, someone, somewhere, is worried about a hypothetical potential problem.

Assuming 300 home matches over the last 10 years, how many actual incidents/near misses have there been and been more difficult because people had been standing in the aisles, and that needs comparing with the away fans.

My guess, there have been far more concerns in the away end, than the North.
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I agree - it's the same everywhere, go away and it's often pandemonium in the away end and much more ordered in home end. It's a moot point though - it is being monitored and club are asking fans to comply with some fairly basic rules on a particular occasion.

I would assume management of away fans is considered more difficult and more leeway is given to clubs about what is/isn't their responsibility about behaviour. I'm purely guessing there.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s only a joke though until some kind of disaster happens and people get unnecessarily killed as a result. It can happen and it has happened in the past, so it’s important and necessary to have some rules.

Our Club tends to be pretty relaxed about many of the ‘rules’ that others tend to be more on top about. Reality is that you should never be stood in the hatches areas, never congregate in gangways, always be seated etc..

If the Council are doing an inspection, then I suppose we all need to ‘play the game, to a certain extent. We have it pretty good as things stand and it would be daft to fuck that up.
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100%

The rules that are printed in every concourse, the club let slide (rightly imo) where it's clear that they're not inherently dangerous or antisocial to be bent (i.e. they let us stand up but don't let us bring in knives and guns)

It's a bit like having an amenable boss who doesn't enforce daft company regulations but the area manager is coming.

If you want the amenable manager to continue to give you leeway, then you've got to make it look legit for the length of their visit.
 
Northstandsinger said:
No it happened because thousand lad of people broke into a football ground which was way over captivity, not something that happens at Bloomfield road.

So can you please explain why standing at the front for half an hour while the players warm up is ok ??
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You clearly have not read the plethora of reports on the matter you’re referring to? Your take on matters simply doesn’t fit the reality of what happened.
 
If they want to keep all access and egress clear then I would suggest they start by not having the away coach parked at the main entrance at the end of the game and even once they have all got off. There must be a better place to park a coach, it is so annoying when you have half those exiting going south abd half going north with a coach blocking the road.
 
Northstandsinger said:
How come I can walk in the ground and stand up while I drink beer, I can then walk out and stand up at the front for half an hour while watching the teams warm up, I can walk down to the front at half time and stand in the gangway for 15 minutes, I can stand when we score, stand when we get a corner ? Someone needs to tell everyone the rules as to when standing up is allowed and it isn’t allowed and when stand at the front is allowed but isn’t allowed the whole thing when you think about it is an absolute joke.
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You make a strong point. That’s almost as ridiculous as some of the old COVID rules
I remember sitting on the train to Euston and had a first class ticket where they brought out the food and drink trolley. You had to wear a mask on the train but cold take it off when food arrived…..
 
Hillymister said:
Agreed. The no standing in the aisle issue is only a small problem in the North its in the away end where the issues are in that respect. When in the Championship last season when there were some large away following you could hardly see the aisles because they were rammed with supporters.
As has been mentioned it's the job of the stewards to keep the areas clear but they can't be bothered but would you want to go in the away end to "politely" ask them to shift.....
Yes fans often stand in the away end but as a general rule it is not that common to see them blocking the aisles except at Blackpool.
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The seating capacity has been reduced by 10 % in the East Stand due to persistent standing/blocking of aisles. Doesn't really affect us but if the council decide there is a similar issue in the North then any reduction in capacity will have an impact on home fans.
 
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