Too much politics tthrown in the mix of Covid19

[Oz_Cod_Pool]

Ppl should be more united in coming together (which is not really possible literally) instead of cheap points scoring. The vile crap I've seen on other social mediums like Twatter & Facebook is pretty much over the line.

 

[seasideone]

One of the good guys, so to speak.

RIP

 

[Oz_Cod_Pool]

One of the good guys, so to speak.

RIP

Sorry seasideone, I went right down the thread list, and someone beat me to it,,,so I've changed the thread. But you are right, a good guy and a gentleman to boot.

 

[seasideone]

No worries - it now looks like I am just talking random crap again

 

[Oz_Cod_Pool]

No worries - it now looks like I am just talking random crap again

Nah, not at all. At least you are 2 likes richer.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

Cheap point scoring is not worth listening to but the title is wrong. Politics is about the organisation of people into a society and for the benefit of that society's people. So, politics does have to be involved in this.

 

[southshorepool]

I'm not convinced by this concept of cheap political points tbh. Where do you draw the line? Any criticism on here against Govt. policy is immediately seized upon by some of our more ardent Boris Bots as point scoring imo. Surely that can't be the benchmark?

 

[Wizaard]

I'm not convinced by this concept of cheap political points tbh. Where do you draw the line? Any criticism on here against Govt. policy is immediately seized upon by some of our more ardent Boris Bots as point scoring imo. Surely that can't be the benchmark?

And yet asking whether Corbyn and Abbott would have done any better isn't cheap political point scoring, just adding to the debate?

 

[bfcpete]

Just watched Boris's video he sent out this morning. No politics in that. Just a personal and powerful Prime Ministerial message and thanks to the NHS and country. I liked the way he mentioned as many of the NHS staff he could remember by name.

 

[20togo]

The losers in this are the human race. Not the politics of any nation.
So damn right it's about some who want to make political hay out of this crisis by cheap point scoring..

 

[Tangerinemoss]

I wish we could have some discussion of what has gone wrong without one side or the other bringing PARTY politics into it.

The reason we are perfectly entitled to comment is that we may well face another peak in the coming months, and want to be reassured that lessons have been learnt so that the reaction is much faster. We want to know the right people are in place in Government who are capable of dealing with the complexity of information and advice from the experts. Some seem to be struggling with it, it is nothing against them because we all have our strengths and weaknesses, but I don't want anyone to continue in a high office of state who can't cope.

This will be around affecting us for at least a year, we need to understand what will happen and plan to deal with it.

 

[poolseasider]

I wish the o/p would change their Avatar that's is flaming scary.

 

[Matesrates]

Doesn’t matter which party was in power, there would have been some mistakes with such a fast moving crisis. The media are making things worse by seizing on every negative they can.

Everything’s easy in hindsight, and those calling for a detailed exit plan like Keir Starmer, should come up with one themselves and put it to government, rather than just adding to the pressure.

 

[Curryman]

I've, on the whole, been keeping away from the board due to the amount of politicking and people with fantastic hindsight who have no idea what they would do in a case like this, NB I would have no idea either as I'm no expert. But one thing that has struck me over the past three weeks is how those in the firing line, i.e. the ministers appear to take all the flack for any deficiencies in any area whilst the managers of the organisations affected who are all highly paid appear to be let off scot-free.

I would ask the question, for instance, why the chief execs, if that is the correct term, of the individual NHS's have not been securing adequate PPE etc for frontline staff in the event of something like Covid 19 occurring? Just interested to find out why.

 

[southshorepool]

Doesn’t matter which party was in power, there would have been some mistakes with such a fast moving crisis. The media are making things worse by seizing on every negative they can.

Everything’s easy in hindsight, and those calling for a detailed exit plan like Keir Starmer, should come up with one themselves and put it to government, rather than just adding to the pressure.

Except of course the Government have access to all the Data and all the scientific advice which means they are the only ones capable of making an informed decision. All Starmer has done is to ask the question...nothing more than that. For what it's worth, I think exit strategy talks are a few weeks premature.
I've got to ask however, when you say adding to the pressure.. do you really mean have no debate?

 

[1966_and_all_that]

And yet asking whether Corbyn and Abbott would have done any better isn't cheap political point scoring, just adding to the debate?

...but a pointless debate. As I've said elsewhere on here, Corbynite Labour were heavily rejected at the GE. The debate now is between a Tory Govt with a largeish working majority - who have to be held to account - and the new opposition. Is the Government being sufficiently effective for the country's needs? Is the opposition doing a good enough job in holding them to account?

 

[Oz_Cod_Pool]

I wish the o/p would change their Avatar that's is flaming scary.

It has been mentioned that it creeps people out. In fact, it usually blinks (a restriction in AV size, so it just shows the still image).

 

[Oz_Cod_Pool]

Doesn’t matter which party was in power, there would have been some mistakes with such a fast moving crisis. The media are making things worse by seizing on every negative they can.

Everything’s easy in hindsight, and those calling for a detailed exit plan like Keir Starmer, should come up with one themselves and put it to government, rather than just adding to the pressure.

Noticed how normal news got pushed right back in bulletins. Last week in Oz, a bloke shot dead another and held coppers up until he did himself in. That didnt make the news until 15 mins into the bulletin.