Toxic Support?

Cuthbert

Cuthbert

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Working in Manchester yesterday and someone who works in football said that the supporters of Blackpool are seen as some of the most toxic in the country. I did defend the supporters position (i.e. a few keyboard warriors don't represent all, but he then referred to booing at recent home games) It's an interesting point which I have a degree of empathy with. We seem to be easily on the back of players / managers / Mansford / Sadler etc
 
Don’t agree with booing, but I can understand it, we’ve had Oystons, then euphoria of SS, then promotion, then Appleton, then McCarthy, then relegation, then Critch, again, then our best players leaving, but happy with early signings of Norburn and Pennington, belief that we’ll go straight up, then dismay at the style (Wrong word) chaotic football, lack of goals, bizarre system that doesn’t work. Yes, I can understand the displeasure.
 
I can’t help, but agree with him tbh. There’s certainly a whole load of baggage (emotional baggage) that many fans seem to carry around with them these days.

We’re a bit like a sad old Middle Aged divorcee, who is incapable of forming new relationships. We lack trust, patience and any sense of perspective.

None of this existed prior to the Premier League.

There’s a part of me feels that we may need to hit ‘Rock Bottom’ for our fans to gain a sense of perspective ever again.*

*Cue the usual “I’m just more ambitious than you” bollocks !
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I can’t help, but agree with him tbh. There’s certainly a whole load of baggage (emotional baggage) that many fans seem to carry around with them these days.

We’re a bit like a sad old Middle Aged divorcee, who is incapable of forming new relationships. We lack trust, patience and any sense of perspective.

None of this existed prior to the Premier League.

There’s a part of me feels that we may need to hit ‘Rock Bottom’ for our fans to gain a sense of perspective ever again.*

*Cue the usual “I’m just more ambitious than you” bollocks !
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No, the sooner we end up in the conference the better😏👍🏻
 
Bit harsh for me. Can't judge a fanbase on a few blokes bleating on Twitter. Trouble is they got Mansford and think they can keep doing it.
 
I think it's completely blinkered by how much you look online. Loads of blowhards on twitter and dare I suggest a few on here, but in the ground, which is where it actually matters, I've always felt Blackpool fans are as good as any I've seen. Maybe its the consistently low expectations but I always feel booing and moaning to be rare, even in the worst of times compared to other clubs.

I think it's why we've achieved so much in my time as a Blackpool fan, in between the lows, whereas certain other clubs, including local clubs I won't name, have had expectations and billionaire owners and achieved only frustration and bland mediocrity.

Holloway said the same, he said Blackpool is a safe place to play so the players can go out and overachieve.
 
Those that accuse others of thinking "Little Blackpool" are the same that come out with the likes of "we should be beating these".

That one season in The Prem has created an unachievable level of expectancy.
 
I’ve only booed the ref to be honest or the odd opposition player. Perhaps we should ban people who boo anything else 😬😂😂😂😂
 
Cuthbert said:
Working in Manchester yesterday and someone who works in football said that the supporters of Blackpool are seen as some of the most toxic in the country. I did defend the supporters position (i.e. a few keyboard warriors don't represent all, but he then referred to booing at recent home games) It's an interesting point which I have a degree of empathy with. We seem to be easily on the back of players / managers / Mansford / Sadler etc
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Given the present state of play at the club, I'd be interested to know just how many of us there are, currently, who could be named as falling into the 'disgruntled' category Cuthbert is alluding to? I'll start the ball rolling by making an educated guess at something in the region of 80% of fans. With apologies to AllezBlackpool and the tiny minority who make up the remainder of the goodie-two-shoes brigade, i.e. those followers who just blindly follow the club come-what-may.
 
Would SS prefer the boos or the money?

If Critch carries on playing this non entertainment points losing garbage then SS will be digging deeper to fund the club due to much lower crowds.

Last season I didn't attend any games due to 1..... I live >350 miles away. 2......The absolute dross from Applehead and The Dinosaur. For years prior I've attended at least 10 games a season and had season tickets. This season I had high hopes but sadly no longer with no intention of wasting my hard earned travelling. Its got to the stage where I can barely bring myself to watch the chite on TV.

Carry on booing boys. At least that way it let's folk know something is wrong.
 
I've never seen fans turn on their own teams more quickly when things don't get their way than both Everton and Wolves fans (multiple instances). That's toxic. You might hear the odd boo at half time or full time from our lot but nothing much else.
 
Cuthbert said:
Working in Manchester yesterday and someone who works in football said that the supporters of Blackpool are seen as some of the most toxic in the country. I did defend the supporters position (i.e. a few keyboard warriors don't represent all, but he then referred to booing at recent home games) It's an interesting point which I have a degree of empathy with. We seem to be easily on the back of players / managers / Mansford / Sadler etc
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Think the person you were speaking to has an ‘agenda’
 
Cuthbert said:
Working in Manchester yesterday and someone who works in football said that the supporters of Blackpool are seen as some of the most toxic in the country. I did defend the supporters position (i.e. a few keyboard warriors don't represent all, but he then referred to booing at recent home games) It's an interesting point which I have a degree of empathy with. We seem to be easily on the back of players / managers / Mansford / Sadler etc
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A lot of the booing this season was directed at officials.
More worrying is periods of silence where the crowd are not energised by what they are seeing
 
If people pay good money to be entertained they are entitled to boo if they're not. Anyway about Russell Brand... Just kidding mods!
 
tangysider said:
A lot of the booing this season was directed at officials.
More worrying is periods of silence where the crowd are not energised by what they are seeing
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Agree around me I see people stop watching and start looking at their phones…silence only broken by a look up and a WTF was that..then eyes down again.
 
I have never booed our team and never will. But if they’re are Boos in the ground they need to be aimed at critchley. He’s the one that doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing. The squad of players we have are 100% good enough for league one if they are played where they should be in the correct position and he needs to stop the bloody 3-5-2 5-3-2 it simply doesn’t work with the players at our disposal. Stubborn critchley
 
bill40 said:
If people pay good money to be entertained they are entitled to boo if they're not. Anyway about Russell Brand... Just kidding mods!
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Would you boo in a theatre or at a cricket match if you had paid good money and it wasnt up to your standard?
 
The way we turn on managers is a joke.
People were calling for Appleton to be sacked after Stoke away (2nd game of the season). Crichley hadn’t even lost a game and people were calling for his head. I don’t even think Man City or Utd would be as quick to jump on a manager.
Not to mention a lot turning on Mansford and a few like to have digs at Sadler aswell.
 
BFC4EVA said:
I have never booed our team and never will. But if they’re are Boos in the ground they need to be aimed at critchley. He’s the one that doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing. The squad of players we have are 100% good enough for league one if they are played where they should be in the correct position and he needs to stop the bloody 3-5-2 5-3-2 it simply doesn’t work with the players at our disposal. Stubborn critchley
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How can you ‘aim a boo’ ?
 
The issue is everyone breathed in the phantom farter’s toxic fumes and it poisoned their minds. It’ll take a few years to get out of the system yet.
 
Unachievable?

Tell that to Brett and his team mates.

TheLuker said:
Those that accuse others of thinking "Little Blackpool" are the same that come out with the likes of "we should be beating these".

That one season in The Prem has created an unachievable level of expectancy.
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Cuthbert said:
Working in Manchester yesterday and someone who works in football said that the supporters of Blackpool are seen as some of the most toxic in the country. I did defend the supporters position (i.e. a few keyboard warriors don't represent all, but he then referred to booing at recent home games) It's an interesting point which I have a degree of empathy with. We seem to be easily on the back of players / managers / Mansford / Sadler etc
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We have some of the most ridiculous fans in the football league. There’s absolutely no doubt about it. Some of the stuff I’ve read on here and on Twitter is absolutely mind bending.

Most football fans don’t know what goes on behind the scenes at their club. And they don’t know how to run a football club. Because our club is particularly well locked down in terms of info, we have absolutely loads of misinformed nonsense being knocked about. Once it snowballs and the neanderthals get ahold of a few rumours, the atmosphere gets toxic. Quickly.

Whether that’s on the club to communicate more or our fans to, well, not be as stupid, I don’t know.

The Oyston saga didn’t help either. We definitely have some spoilt fans with unrealistic ambitions. I’m grateful for the situation we are in at the minute (recent results aside).
 
This site can be very toxic but it's not representative of our fans as a whole. It's been a bit toxic at a couple of away games I've been too but I've never really noticed it at home tbh.

It was incredibly toxic during NAPM so perhaps people are referring to that period.
 
It’s simple - get off tw@tter, take healthy breaks from avftt, go to the games, scream at the men chasing that little ball, go for a pint with your mates. Let it all out. Enjoy.
 
TheLuker said:
Would you boo in a theatre or at a cricket match if you had paid good money and it wasnt up to your standard?
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Ian Siegel was booed at last year’s Blues festival. As the wanker just thought it would be ok to use his name & do fuck all on stage. Not sure if he was out of it or not. I’ll never bother getting of the toilet to see him ever again.
 
Grateful for relegation, amid toxic leadership in the dugout and boardroom.
Chrismalkin said:
We have some of the most ridiculous fans in the football league. There’s absolutely no doubt about it. Some of the stuff I’ve read on here and on Twitter is absolutely mind bending.

Most football fans don’t know what goes on behind the scenes at their club. And they don’t know how to run a football club. Because our club is particularly well locked down in terms of info, we have absolutely loads of misinformed nonsense being knocked about. Once it snowballs and the neanderthals get ahold of a few rumours, the atmosphere gets toxic. Quickly.

Whether that’s on the club to communicate more or our fans to, well, not be as stupid, I don’t know.

The Oyston saga didn’t help either. We definitely have some spoilt fans with unrealistic ambitions. I’m grateful for the situation we are in at the minute (recent results aside).
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If you don’t like it don’t go. I certainly won’t be getting a season ticket next season if we’re playing the current “style” of football.

Wouldn’t be as bad if I was local but bollocks to 6 hour round trips watching this boring shite. If that makes me toxic or entitled so be it
 
Athers said:
If you don’t like it don’t go. I certainly won’t be getting a season ticket next season if we’re playing the current “style” of football.

Wouldn’t be as bad if I was local but bollocks to 6 hour round trips watching this boring shite. If that makes me toxic or entitled so be it
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I think you've got a fair point.

I'm quite sanguine about what division we're in and where we are in the league. Football is chaotic and all this shite about where we 'should be' is silly. I've known Fulham as a premier league fixture and a club scrapping for their league status. Same with Burnley, Bournemouth and others.

I think a degree of the discontent and 'toxicity' is about the style as much as the outcomes.

I genuinely would rather lose 4-2 than 2-0. I'd applaud a naive side who has a good go off the pitch. I struggle to clap a side who don't really try to score when faced with equals.
 
The only thing toxic about our support is, the way fans create division. We were relegated and had to suffer two shocking managers. We’ve started this season in poor / boring fashion, epitomised by around 1300 passes in our last 2 away games, no goals scored and 5 conceded.

All things considered I think our fans have been fantastic away and at home. Our problem is, that we jump all over anything that is considered negative. There are extremes, but most fans are sensible and see we have work to do. How we get there is open to debate, as happens at every club.
 
I'd say that is a bag of bollocks, how would a fan of another club have such an insight in to Blackpool as a club and their fans? I'd say you made up the o/p, bit sad really.

The club is in very good shape, we have a manager who has done it before and has a long term plan, we have a good squad and an owner who cares.

The problem however is fairly simple. We are persisting with a formation that isn't working, the players are a touch over-coached and look lost, and playing wide players on the wrong side is just ** daft.

To me that is the 'issue'. All the over-reaction shyte on here especially after each result is just a sign of the times. I'll start fretting if we are still becalmed at Christmas, not before. Have patience ffs, and please Neil switch the wide men as a starter for 10.

** fuck fuck, Blackpool fans are toxic my arse.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I can’t help, but agree with him tbh. There’s certainly a whole load of baggage (emotional baggage) that many fans seem to carry around with them these days.

We’re a bit like a sad old Middle Aged divorcee, who is incapable of forming new relationships. We lack trust, patience and any sense of perspective.

None of this existed prior to the Premier League.

There’s a part of me feels that we may need to hit ‘Rock Bottom’ for our fans to gain a sense of perspective ever again.*

*Cue the usual “I’m just more ambitious than you” bollocks !
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Im more ambitious than you and I believe the club deserves better than it is currently being invested...
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Im more ambitious than you and I believe the club deserves better than it is currently being invested...
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I’m not sure you are more ambitious than me (maybe less patient, perhaps)… We don’t ‘deserve’ anything…. We hope for better…Hopefully it will happen…

I’d rather see success that is built on firm foundations, as opposed to instant gratification. I think some fans are suffocating the club right now.
 
td53 said:
I think you've got a fair point.

I'm quite sanguine about what division we're in and where we are in the league. Football is chaotic and all this shite about where we 'should be' is silly. I've known Fulham as a premier league fixture and a club scrapping for their league status. Same with Burnley, Bournemouth and others.

I think a degree of the discontent and 'toxicity' is about the style as much as the outcomes.

I genuinely would rather lose 4-2 than 2-0. I'd applaud a naive side who has a good go off the pitch. I struggle to clap a side who don't really try to score when faced with equals.
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Exactly. I started going in the Billy Ayre era. Bar the odd player we weren’t a team gifted with a great deal of skill, but you could never question the heart or effort they put in.

Plus the manager knew how to play to his player’s strengths and try and protect their weaknesses.

Seen us as a lowly div 4 team. As long as the football is entertaining then I’ll keep going, regardless of the division. The football has been shite for 2 years now and I’m rapidly losing patience
 
DonCorleone said:
I've never seen fans turn on their own teams more quickly when things don't get their way than both Everton and Wolves fans (multiple instances). That's toxic. You might hear the odd boo at half time or full time from our lot but nothing much else.
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Exactly, there's many team who get on their teams back just for losing to a lesser side, we've benefited from it many times in the past.

We're obviously not immune to bad feeling and disgruntled fans etc, but generally it's not as bad as many others can be.

Let's not forget we've just been relegated after a terrible season and some poor appointments from the board, we've then not started the new campaign particularly well, people are annoyed but it's not toxic, it's been largely supportive at games, just at times there hasn't been much to cheer.

Some are definitely scarred by the previous owner experience and tbh that's normal, for fans who haven't experienced that clearly they won't quite get it.
 
Cuthbert said:
Working in Manchester yesterday and someone who works in football said that the supporters of Blackpool are seen as some of the most toxic in the country. I did defend the supporters position (i.e. a few keyboard warriors don't represent all, but he then referred to booing at recent home games) It's an interesting point which I have a degree of empathy with. We seem to be easily on the back of players / managers / Mansford / Sadler etc
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Perhaps a combination of older fans who remember us as a team that could compete in the top two divisions, and younger fans who want everything now. Combined with the oystain hangover of blaming the ownership for everything.
We could get to where Brentford, Burnley or Bournemouth are at, but right now we are Peterborough, Rotherham or Oxford. And a lot of people get their knickers in a twist cos they think we are better than that based on recent and distant history. UTP
 
Brabinho said:
Dont think he said he was grateful. Go back to trolling mumsnet
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"I’m grateful for the situation we are in at the minute (recent results aside)."

The situation we are in is division three.

Go back to your lessons on how to read.
 
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