Travelling to Bloomfield Road (O/T)
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Curryman
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I'll try that again now that I've calmed down a tad. Due to an ASLEF work to rule, the first home game against Burton Albion will be affected with no trains running between Leeds and Blackpool ( which includes Bradford, Halifax, Hebden Bridge, Burnley, Accrington, Blackburn and Preston), which makes it a damned site harder for YS Members and others to attend their team's games, particularly if they don't drive. So after many disruptions last season by those who don't want to disrupt the General Public, it looks very much like this coming season is going to be the same again.
poolseasider
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What pisses me off we're a holiday town who relies on trains getting folk here to spend yet the first two weekends of school holidays their striking now this.
Wizaard
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Work to rule, not a total shutdown. Not sure of the impact on the timetable.
Halifax71
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Long gone are the days of an away day by train. Absolute rip off. Think they need to be careful of further damaging what's left of a failing service.
Their pay is also above average for a semi skilled role - they get zero support from me.
Macseasider
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How can someone be "semi-skilled"?
You either have a skill or you don't. You can't have "half" a skill.
Matesrates
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I don’t think they’ve got much support with the public, they’re seen as reasonably well paid compared with other public services.
seasideone
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Have you read the thread on CJ?
Curryman
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I've checked Phil, and it's as I've written. Trains to Blackpool from Leeds will be nil.
Halifax71
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By definition.
A semi-skilled worker is an individual who has specific skills and knowledge to perform their job duties without needing advanced education
1966_and_all_that
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"Semi-skilled" is a long used term in industry. It usually applies to trades-people who perform roles that do not require full qualifications.
aquaduck
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I agree its a rip-off and a shocking service but how do you equate that with the actions of its staff and not the management who have brought about that situation - and get paid big fat bonuses as a reward?
SouthernSeasider
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Why are there no trains from Blackpool to Leeds due to the overtime ban?
Today is an overtime ban and the Blackpool-York service has ran fine with no cancellations.
I work in the railway, not northern, but a Southern company. As far as I was aware Northern don’t have a rest day agreement with ASLEF so drivers don’t do overtime as it is.
Today is an overtime ban and the Blackpool-York service has ran fine with no cancellations.
I work in the railway, not northern, but a Southern company. As far as I was aware Northern don’t have a rest day agreement with ASLEF so drivers don’t do overtime as it is.
Wizaard
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All the apps are still selling tickets, although that doesn't mean much.
AllezBlackpool
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Do National Express still run from Bradford to Blackpool?
fcblackpool
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Then they are skilled to do their job.
Curryman
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They do Allez the main problem is getting back as the bus leaves Bonny Street at 17.15, which gives little time to get there from Bloomfield Road. I don't walk as quickly now as I used to.
Wizaard
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They might be skilled at shovelling stuff for example. Niche, but not necessarily skilled in the true sense of the word.
fcblackpool
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Semi skilled would be using the handle to move the stuff.
Victorsponge
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Semi skilled used to refer to people who did a repetitive job like operating a Capstan lathe or sheet metal guillotine
BIG_BERTHA_3
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Wizz is semi skilled ,50% of his work time on here and 50% doing work .
Charliecleanstonysheens
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Haven't you seen CJ play yet then ?
Threepeaksphil
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A lot of the strikes seem to have a political element and it will be very interesting as if expected Labour win how they will cope with these and future pay claims
Seaside shuffle
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Of course all strikes have a political element!
It's a total inconvenience for me,as I travel to games by train.
However, this is a failure of management and a government that should be negotiating, but won't and don't care .
They have my full support.
Wizaard
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That much?Wizz is semi skilled ,50% of his work time on here and 50% doing work .
GrahamwantshisOates
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ASLEF have to move on with the times.
Remember when High speed trains (125mph) were introduced in mid 70’s.
They wanted danger money and an assistant ( fireman) when the train was equipt with a dead man’s handle.
It delayed the introduction by 2 years.
Ludicrous now when you look at it now.
Remember when High speed trains (125mph) were introduced in mid 70’s.
They wanted danger money and an assistant ( fireman) when the train was equipt with a dead man’s handle.
It delayed the introduction by 2 years.
Ludicrous now when you look at it now.
TangeinBurnley
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There’s me thinking to renew my rail card. If the pay and conditions are not to your liking. (You know what’s coming don’t you)
Yep. Get a different job!
(Places tin hat firmly on one’s napper)
fcblackpool
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He never mentioned your payThat much?
Wizaard
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Another great privatisation success.
TangeinBurnley
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Especially with loss of ticket sales. Loads of times last season had to drive over. Then they talk about global warming and use public transport!
BIG_BERTHA_3
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I was being kind mateThat much?
Victorsponge
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All capstan operators did was load metal into the machine and take finished parts out the machine did the rest. The skilled Turner would set the machine up for him
Wizzerboy
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1966_and_all_that
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My dad was a turner. 5 year apprenticeship before he was fully qualified.
Tangerine10
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Explain to the train drivers very slowly that theirs is a loss making industry propped up by public funds despite being privatised.
Then explain that their are finite finances and the increases they are demanding will mean the system incurs even more losses.
Also explain they are targeting the people who subsidise their industry and therefore loosing any public support.
Then give them all they ask for.
A couple of years later explain that the pay rise they demanded has accelerated the financial collapse of subsidised lines has lead
to the inevitable redundancies the service now faces.
Congratulations
Then explain that their are finite finances and the increases they are demanding will mean the system incurs even more losses.
Also explain they are targeting the people who subsidise their industry and therefore loosing any public support.
Then give them all they ask for.
A couple of years later explain that the pay rise they demanded has accelerated the financial collapse of subsidised lines has lead
to the inevitable redundancies the service now faces.
Congratulations
Victorsponge
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SouthernSeasider
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I still don't think there will be an issue with Blackpool-Leeds trains with the overtime ban on Sat 5 Aug. Not sure where the original post has got the info from but have spoke to a few people this morning and Northern drivers do not work overtime as it is so don't get why that would be the case.
Captain Sensible
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There isn’t an issue, it’s just a bit of lefty-bashing.
1966_and_all_that
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What don't you understand?
Perhaps rail operators could explain why dividends are paid out to shareholders, yet they are unable to exist without taxpayer money, nor offer pay increases to staff.
NoFindsFriday
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National Express run coaches between Leeds and Blackpool.
Victorsponge
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Well your dad did a 5 year apprenticeship making him a fully skilled man, I was talking about semi skilled Capstain lathe operators.
Your Dad would have set a Capstain lathe up for a semi skilled lad to operate.
southshore
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Try getting to Abingdon Street for 10pm in time for the last bus to PLF on a Tuesday night!
GrahamwantshisOates
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Dividends are usually paid to investors for pensions. Without these then private pensions would be worthless.
Pension funds would be knackered without dividends from shares.
Anyway dividends from these transport companies are crap.
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Curryman
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Absolute rubbish, It is a genuine concern of travelling to see my team play.
I have since been told by someone who has a mate that works for Northern that there should be no problem on that Saturday. I hope he's correct.
North Lancs 60
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Just started away days by train again live Morecambe mate lives Kendal have senior rail cards.
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