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This is an intriguing development.


My first thought was that if Trump is nominated by the Republican Party you can’t keep him off the ticket. But the way the US federal system works maybe you can so far as Colorado (and any other states that follow suit are concerned)?

I can’t see Trump being elected if he’s not allowed to run in certain states.

Obviously subject to appeal to the Federal Supreme Court.
 
This is an intriguing development.


My first thought was that if Trump is nominated by the Republican Party you can’t keep him off the ticket. But the way the US federal system works maybe you can so far as Colorado (and any other states that follow suit are concerned)?

I can’t see Trump being elected if he’s not allowed to run in certain states.

Obviously subject to appeal to the Federal Supreme Court.
I have read the article, but caught something on the radio this evening.

It's this type of thing which will lead to some kind of uprising in the States.

Stopping him running will create the easiest story of "they don't want me to run because I'll win and the elites don't like it etc"

There will be a whole section of America that will not recognise the legitimacy of the next President if he's not able to stand; and I think that will be more than those who think the election was stolen last time and that's not healthy.

It's likely to get very ugly; what with his various trials, Biden being ridiculously old to be President, throw in their families and you've got to think out of 300 million people, they must be able to come up with better.

The politicians over there really need to start taking a good long look at the mess they've curated.

And I know, we aren't in a much stronger position if at all.
 
I have read the article, but caught something on the radio this evening.

It's this type of thing which will lead to some kind of uprising in the States.

Stopping him running will create the easiest story of "they don't want me to run because I'll win and the elites don't like it etc"

There will be a whole section of America that will not recognise the legitimacy of the next President if he's not able to stand; and I think that will be more than those who think the election was stolen last time and that's not healthy.

It's likely to get very ugly; what with his various trials, Biden being ridiculously old to be President, throw in their families and you've got to think out of 300 million people, they must be able to come up with better.

The politicians over there really need to start taking a good long look at the mess they've curated.

And I know, we aren't in a much stronger position if at all.
I understand what you’re saying. But the way the US system works is that each state is sovereign. And as we in the U.K. know sovereignty is important. And State rights are very important to Republicans.

But clearly if one state exercises it’s right to exclude a candidate that impacts on the whole union. And that also impacts on Republicans. Or at least the Trump wing of that party.

So a potential constitutional crisis in the offing.
 
The a decent number of Americans that are willing on a war against their own government. When you see the arms caches they have in their basements?

I remember a survey a few years back and it was a frightening % that were expecting it. Trump plays to that fuckwit paranoia so well
 
The a decent number of Americans that are willing on a war against their own government. When you see the arms caches they have in their basements?

I remember a survey a few years back and it was a frightening % that were expecting it. Trump plays to that fuckwit paranoia so well
Was it on family fortunes, a survey out of 100 hundred says they were expecting it, USA has approx population of 340 million. Dont get taken in by surveys chunky, youre a clever lad. Think before you post.
 
Was it on family fortunes, a survey out of 100 hundred says they were expecting it, USA has approx population of 340 million. Dont get taken in by surveys chunky, youre a clever lad. Think before you post.
Take your point.

My post was more in reflection that the USA with its right to arm, has a really strong counter culture of those believing in the ‘deep state’ and government conspiracy. All the QAnon type movements and being off the grid etc
 
I have read the article, but caught something on the radio this evening.

It's this type of thing which will lead to some kind of uprising in the States.

Stopping him running will create the easiest story of "they don't want me to run because I'll win and the elites don't like it etc"

There will be a whole section of America that will not recognise the legitimacy of the next President if he's not able to stand; and I think that will be more than those who think the election was stolen last time and that's not healthy.

It's likely to get very ugly; what with his various trials, Biden being ridiculously old to be President, throw in their families and you've got to think out of 300 million people, they must be able to come up with better.

The politicians over there really need to start taking a good long look at the mess they've curated.

And I know, we aren't in a much stronger position if at all.
It's messed up over there with politically appointed judges etc.

I'm not a huge trump fan but this smells a bit fishy.

Seems they'll do anything to stop him getting in which isn't right, we've seen lots of that already and the double standards of the media too.

All over trump for anything with accusations too, but not the same energy with Biden, the bumbling poor old man who doesn't know where he is at times.

Shocking really that you can Biden vs Trump or even here that we had Johnson or Corbyn.
 
This is an intriguing development.


My first thought was that if Trump is nominated by the Republican Party you can’t keep him off the ticket. But the way the US federal system works maybe you can so far as Colorado (and any other states that follow suit are concerned)?

I can’t see Trump being elected if he’s not allowed to run in certain states.

Obviously subject to appeal to the Federal Supreme Court.
Individual states can leave him off the ticket for that state.

One less to campaign in. There is talk of numerous other states going down the same path though. Be interesting to see if one of those where it's expected to he close leave him out.
 
Individual states can leave him off the ticket for that state.

One less to campaign in. There is talk of numerous other states going down the same path though. Be interesting to see if one of those where it's expected to he close leave him out.
Going to be an interesting year or so.

He's a funny fella, massive ego, but it's so fragile.

I think he will convince himself that they want to stop him from running because he would win; rather than his seditious language inspiring insurrection - which objectively he did.
 
So a potential constitutional crisis in the offing.

Yep, a glimpse into the constitutional chaos that is likely to unfold, and will stress test the American judicial institutions to the max next year.

Time could be a real factor here as regards the ruling from the Supreme Court if they decide to take a while to consider it and when it is likely to be announced.

This ruling will probably turbo-charge Trump`s fund raising, lend support to his bogus `victimisation` schtick with his base, and will be seen as further proof of the `deep state` conspiracy stuff. Just the kind of stuff Trump thrives on.

And let`s not forget that Trump has already been found guilty of insurrection by a majority in both Houses in his second impeachment trial.

Looks like there`s trouble ahead...
 
Yep, a glimpse into the constitutional chaos that is likely to unfold, and will stress test the American judicial institutions to the max next year.

Time could be a real factor here as regards the ruling from the Supreme Court if they decide to take a while to consider it and when it is likely to be announced.

This ruling will probably turbo-charge Trump`s fund raising, lend support to his bogus `victimisation` schtick with his base, and will be seen as further proof of the `deep state` conspiracy stuff. Just the kind of stuff Trump thrives on.

And let`s not forget that Trump has already been found guilty of insurrection by a majority in both Houses in his second impeachment trial.

Looks like there`s trouble ahead...
And then there is the partisan nature of their Supreme Court which currently favours the Republicans.
 
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