Trust The Process

AllTheBoysAreCheerin' said:
Norburn, as captain, should do as his boss tells him! Given that his boss continues to play him as captain suggests that he's doing what his boss asks! ☹️
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So does a captain have influence?
I have, seen many captains performances over the years, and it is about grabbing a game by throat and changing the dynamics, not acting like a lapdog.
 
Martonmosser said:
4 people in the car you went to Wigan in today mate…… I know 2 and would probably bet money of 3 of them wanting rid of the snake
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Nah, it’s more like 50/50 and I think the other two would struggle to genuinely justify potting the manager. You might argue he shouldn’t have been appointed and that’s fair enough, but you can’t be potting a manager who’s still in with a shout of a play off spot.

As Wiz has said, despite everything, we still deserved something out of that game. We were arguably duped out of a home win against Portsmouth…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
What has any of that got to do with the post that you chose to write the incorrectly spelled word ‘Deluded’ in response to though ?
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You talk about all our ‘superb’ performances this season. When? Away at 10 man Portsmouth was a good result. Ditto Bolton at home, apart from that, what? When? We’ve been awful in many games this season. Cheltenham away anybody? You are happy to back any Blackpool manager in situ regardless of formation/tactics/personnel. I’m always happy to back the team but I’m not an unquestioning sheep.
 
tangysider said:
So does a captain have influence?
I have, seen many captains performances over the years, and it is about grabbing a game by throat and changing the dynamics, not acting like a lapdog.
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Perhaps those captains were instructed to do that and therefore just as much a lap dog as anyone else? My experience is of players getting dropped for not doing as the manager instructs. Scoring goals is the only thing that gets a bad manager off your back!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Nah, it’s more like 50/50 and I think the other two would struggle to genuinely justify potting the manager. You might argue he shouldn’t have been appointed and that’s fair enough, but you can’t be potting a manager who’s still in with a shout of a play off spot.

As Wiz has said, despite everything, we still deserved something out of that game. We were arguably duped out of a home win against Portsmouth…
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Are you on the ale tonight Bifster 😂😂 The 2 in your car have started threads on here tonight referring to getting rid of the clown. Making yourself look a bit silly now to be honest
 
Superbretty said:
You talk about all our ‘superb’ performances this season. When? Away at 10 man Portsmouth was a good result. Ditto Bolton at home, apart from that, what? When? We’ve been awful in many games this season. Cheltenham away anybody? You are happy to back any Blackpool manager in situ regardless of formation/tactics/personnel. I’m always happy to back the team but I’m not an unquestioning sheep.
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I didn’t talk about ‘All Our’ superb performances. I said there have been ‘some’ superb performances this season… A fact I’ve just acknowledged yourself.

We haven’t been awful in ‘many’ games this season either. We have been awful in a few though.

I’m happy to get behind any manager where it’s reasonable to do so. I’m a definite proponent of giving a manager adequate time to do his job properly… So you won’t find me calling for a manager to be sacked after 3 or 4 games like some I could mention.

I thought Mick McCarthy was an odd fit for our squad and I said so before he arrived. Whilst he was here I supported him as it was pointless to do anything but, in the circumstances.

I supported Appleton and I still think we probably let him go too soon. However I was very much against his appointment in the first place and pretty much predicted the outcome .
 
You can get away with boring when you're winning at home. Take 3,000 to Wigan and you need to give them something to get behind. Two Joseph headers and a Lavery run and shot in 90 minutes won't cut it.
Try and change the game before 65 minutes, don't wait until there's 6 minutes to go to take a centre half off.
I get the possession based football, trying to open up and find gaps in the opposition. But don't be so ponderous, press hard and high, pick up second balls.
Do something fcuking different when we are losing away....in fact, just try and do something different at Derby, you've two weeks to work on it.
I'm Blackpool daft, but I can't defend some of the majorly odd ways our manager " manages " our away games.
 
Martonmosser said:
Are you on the ale tonight Bifster 😂😂 The 2 in your car have started threads on here tonight referring to getting rid of the clown. Making yourself look a bit silly now to be honest
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No.. I’m not really drinking much these days.

Neither of them have started threads referring to getting rid of the manager. Both have expressed disappointment and frustration with the manager and tactics on the back of a disappointing result.

As I said, any rationally minded person would struggle to make a case for potting the manager based on recent results (in the round) … We were 3rd in the form table prior to today.
 
Sadler has been quite clear from what I remember. Not the exact words but it was something along the lines of if we don’t get promoted this season Critchley will have to do it next season or it will be seen by him as failure. And it was said with menaces.

Unless we move to a position of recruiting Championship level players into key positions at whatever cost that requires, the Critchley Mark 2 has absolutely zero chance of delivering promotion utilising a possession based after first nick a win philosophy.
 
clappers said:
Sadler has been quite clear from what I remember. Not the exact words but it was something along the lines of if we don’t get promoted this season Critchley will have to do it next season or it will be seen by him as failure. And it was said with menaces.

Unless we move to a position of recruiting Championship level players into key positions at whatever cost that requires, the Critchley Mark 2 has absolutely zero chance of delivering promotion utilising a possession based after first nick a win philosophy.
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I don't recall SS saying that. What length of contract did he dish out whilst saying that?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not sure it’s me who’s getting ‘carried away’ to be honest. I’m simply saying it how it is and maintaining a sense of perspective.

I think it’s you and others who are getting carried away, which essentially comes as a result of your own reactions to the disappointment of the failure to meet your own expectations.

We lost a game of football… It’s disappointing… We didn’t play as well as we’re capable.

I can handle that without feeling the need to sack the manager, replace the owner or bring in a new assistant. 👍
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I haven't said any of the above to sack the manager or replace the owner.

I've questioned where the stye of play is, why were still having prolonged spells of completely aimless football, in a crucial game when we need to start winning and by now at least should have a defined way of playing.

I've said before may as well give him the season and until it's confirmed we're not going anywhere then assess.

TBH if he did go I can't say I'd be too upset, has he returned the same manager? I'd say no, he doesn't change it like he used to and seems to have come back worse following the 2 failures. He always struggled to implement a passing style back then, now he's lost the fan connection and doesn't make the little tactical changes that made things work for us last time.

Yes with a passing style you stick with it and improve but we've never really done that, we changed course to more long balls when it failed early on because the way he sets it up doesn't work like other teams like Wigan, Peterborough etc, where they pass round the back but then through the lines.

It's not just about this game but culmination and also our likely finishing position and chances in the playoffs should we get there.

Forget our playoff record, with the way we setup and play at times and resort to aimless football with no goal threat, I fear we'd be in danger of undoing our record and being embarrassed against some sides if we still can't grasp some basic aspects at this stage.
 
Torycorner said:
Back to really not knowing where we go from here.
i don't think we were shite today, but we were definitely "not good enough".
We'll have to wait & see what Friday brings of course but......
something will HAVE to change close season and it's has to be radical.
I've wanted "stability" since "the troubles" but I've never got my passion back and whilst I call those who "throw their toys out of the pram" perhaps I'm worse than them in saying "I've done my bit,will walk away, will come back when it's better"
problem is I can't put my "finger on the problem"......I'm struggling to think getting Sadler & Critchley Out is an "obvious"answer.
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Why are you linking Critchley out with Sadler out. No one wants Sadler out.

Oh, you're a Tory, explains a lot. You fact twister
 
I'm another fan who can't put my finger on the root cause of the problem/mediocrity, I look at Lavery and joseph and Rhodes CJ and think what's happened to these as collectively they are getting progressively worse, and the amount of games I've watched going in to the last 30mins when we are 1-0 down and in desperate need of a goal we can't change from the sideways time consuming play that doesn't work as believe it or not when we are losing we are wasting our own time ... in a nutshell I think the real problem is we just aren't good enough.
 
It was a local derby, it is often tight in these games. We restricted Wigan in the main apart from the goal.

Key moments were;
Gabriel mistake for the goal and the miss from Joseph.
Both individual mistakes.

We are not a million miles away IMO
To me we lack leadership on the field, this needs to be addressed.
No way is Critchley going anywhere
We were mainly awful under 3 managers last season, we are at least competent now albeit at a level lower.

We will not win every game 5-0, but at times this season we have played champagne football. And at times we have been very poor.

But it is what it is.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think it would be pretty stupid to get rid of the manager based on what we’ve seen this season really.

If you take a step back from the immediacy of another disappointing result and what feels like a number of ‘false dawns’, there have been some superb performances this season and we are probably ending the season stronger than we started it.

As I see it (barring a completely disastrous end to the season) he’s earned the right to keep hold of his job. It’s up to him and the Club to review the season and to get our act in order for next season.

He’s then probably got 10-15 games to prove himself really.
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What you forget to mention contrary mary is that yes there have been some superb performances but to counter that there have been significantly more absolutely abysmal performances. The balance is that for every one good performance there has likely been five shocking ones. But hey you carry on with your misleading blind defence of the obvious, Just as you did with McCarthy.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
It was a local derby, it is often tight in these games. We restricted Wigan in the main apart from the goal.

Key moments were;
Gabriel mistake for the goal and the miss from Joseph.
Both individual mistakes.

We are not a million miles away IMO
To me we lack leadership on the field, this needs to be addressed.
No way is Critchley going anywhere
We were mainly awful under 3 managers last season, we are at least competent now albeit at a level lower.

We will not win every game 5-0, but at times this season we have played champagne football. And at times we have been very poor.

But it is what it is.
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I'd argue Casey was at fault for the goal.
 
Wizaard said:
Poor sides? Peterborough and Bolton?

Today was disappointing, but anyone who says we were second best is just wrong.

We could and should have had at least a point.

They had one shot on target all day, and Grimshaw had absolutely nothing to do.

Obviously, we should have done better from a number of chances we had, but Wigan got a lead then immediately started time-wasting. Nevertheless, Joseph and Lavery both missed great chances in the second half.

It wasn't great, but some of the nonsense on here tonight needs calling out for what it is. It's the same after every match we lose.
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Shrewsbury and Northampton obviously 🙄 the exact type of games we've struggled with previously. Yes we've had some other decent results and performances at home but have folded too often away, especially when bigger numbers turn up.

First half we were awful. Second half they sat back and we decided we'd pass it more, probably because they let us, but we created very little and hardly tested the keeper.

When it was level and they were pressing us, playing their usual game we didn't look a side that could trouble the playoffs or have any coherent plan or style like you'd expect at this stage.

That not only very disappointing but quite telling.

Bolton at home was a good win but they had chances and on another day may have taken more and been a harder game.

Posh away was decided by a long punt up field, their keeper taking out Joseph who wasn't going anywhere and then a deflected goal. A good win and we were pushing 2nd half but let's not kid ourselves it was through blistering football, more moments that went our way.
 
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AllTheBoysAreCheerin' said:
It's a conundrum. Either the budget isn't enough for us to be a competetive L1 team, the players are not good enough or the manager isn't good enough!
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The bench was weak today so the squad is definitely not strong enough to be top 6 contenders.
At best Carey, Connolly, Virtue and Hamilton on recent form should be plying their trade in the bottom half of league 1.
Is the squad not good enough because Critchley over estimated it, our recruitment is poor or the funds aren't there?
Somebody needs to deal with this in the summer with or without Critchley.
 
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Bamber said:
I'd argue Casey was at fault for the goal.
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Dembele and Ekpiteta could've done better aswell. Half hearted effort from Dembele to close down the player who crossed it, Ekpiteta looked like he should've made a proper contact with the ball and then Casey didn't do his bit!
Bit of a shit show for a minute and it cost us a point, I don't think we would've taken 3, we weren't good enough all over the pitch.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Does anyone genuinely see one that’s worth persevering with ?
I know we’ve had criticism on the podcast for being negative however we just want the best for the team and as I see it Critchley needs to be far more adaptable in game
When he was he had an experienced no2
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I would be interested to know if Calderwood and McCall were forced on him or were his choice?
 
gjr said:
Dembele and Ekpiteta could've done better aswell. Half hearted effort from Dembele to close down the player who crossed it, Ekpiteta looked like he should've made a proper contact with the ball and then Casey didn't do his bit!
Bit of a shit show for a minute and it cost us a point, I don't think we would've taken 3, we weren't good enough all over the pitch.
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The lot of them looked like they were already on the beach
 
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