Trybull / Lyons ?

My immediate thoughts are both are off this month and we are waiting for replacements before they go!

If they both want to leave Lyons you can understand as he did really well but you’d think contract length was in our favour. Trybull on the other hand has a ** nerve considering he played about 5 games last season.
 
Maybe the club is looking at how it can balance the books and bring in players to strengthen? Sell the likes of Lyons and Trybull and sign cheaper options. Get a million for Lyons and bring in 2 players? Trybull maybe just sees L1 as too low a level. Maybe he had a relegation clause and his pay dropped?
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Trybull has been superb pre-season
Playing Connolly out of position ahead of Lyons and then preferring Casey is weird
Both are in our best 11
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I said on another post earlier in the week that I couldn't second guess Critch's team selection but today I did, even to the absence of Apter on the bench.
He really personifies the phrase that has been used a lot this week "risk averse".
Thats what the team selection was today, he picked his favourites and we comfortably won 2-0 which is why he just pipped me in the selection process for the Manager's job.
 
Let’s not start creating fodder for Alan Nixon. Before you know it he’ll be linked to every club under the sun. He’s here, he’s under contract, he’s ours.
 
Lyons not playing because he has offers makes no sense.

If he has offers why wouldn’t we play him to help increase his price?

Made sense not to play Jerry in pre season since it was just pre season and his move was imminent.

Think Lyons not playing has more to do with Critch favoring the players he’s signed.

Hope Lyons is like Husband and Madine were during 2020/2021 where they were initially left out, but then proved too good to not play as the season went on.
 
If I was Lyons I’d be pissed off joining a champ team and suddenly find yourself in Div3 but he’s contracted and should fight for his team and survival but hey ho we are discussing modern prima Donna footballers now.
 
voyeur said:
Maybe the club is looking at how it can balance the books and bring in players to strengthen? Sell the likes of Lyons and Trybull and sign cheaper options. Get a million for Lyons and bring in 2 players? Trybull maybe just sees L1 as too low a level. Maybe he had a relegation clause and his pay dropped?
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I doubt Lyons is troubling the accountants too much, I suspect his agent wants a new Merc though! Trybull, who knows?
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Lyons not playing because he has offers makes no sense.

If he has offers why wouldn’t we play him to help increase his price?

Made sense not to play Jerry in pre season since it was just pre season and his move was imminent.

Think Lyons not playing has more to do with Critch favoring the players he’s signed.

Hope Lyons is like Husband and Madine were during 2020/2021 where they were initially left out, but then proved too good to not play as the season went on.
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Offers ? Does he want out should be the question.
I have no idea if the story I was told is true, but coincidently another person posted exactly the same thing as I did at the same time.
Hopefully it's nonsense, but what's the old saying. There's no smoke........
 
It’s obvious, he’s keeping our best players under wraps until the transfer window has closed, so we won’t be tempted by an offer too good to turn down.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
Offers ? Does he want out should be the question.
I have no idea if the story I was told is true, but coincidently another person posted exactly the same thing as I did at the same time.
Hopefully it's nonsense, but what's the old saying. There's no smoke........
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I’m sorry but I completely disagree with “There’s no smoke without fire.”

There are made up rumors on this forum all the time that are completely unsubstantiated.

I think Critch just prefers players he knows and Lyons simply isn’t one (yet), which is why he didn’t start.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
I’m sorry but I completely disagree with “There’s no smoke without fire.”

There are made up rumors on this forum all the time that are completely unsubstantiated.

I think Critch just prefers players he knows and Lyons simply isn’t one (yet), which is why he didn’t start.
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Hope you're right, I really like Lyons and he is a much better option than Connolly or CJ as wide of a 5.
Let's hope he is playing Championship football with us next season and winning caps for ROI.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
Hope you're right, I really like Lyons and he is a much better option than Connolly or CJ as wide of a 5.
Let's hope he is playing Championship football with us next season and winning caps for ROI.
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Completely agree, Lyons should be one of the first names on the team sheet and is a crucial player to not only get us up, but help us in the Championship.

If he does go (not impossible of course) we’ll be fine as he’d go for a huge fee since he has 3 years left, but would rather him just become integrated into the 11 and play out the whole year as he’d rip this division apart.

However, an unacceptable situation is him staying and just being a bit par player.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
I’m sorry but I completely disagree with “There’s no smoke without fire.”

There are made up rumors on this forum all the time that are completely unsubstantiated.

I think Critch just prefers players he knows and Lyons simply isn’t one (yet), which is why he didn’t start.
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And does Thompson fit the same thought?
 
There is another game Tuesday so maybe a few players that played today will not be playing. We know that Critch likes to rotate, I can't see
Lyons going unless it's for big money. I can see Trybull going though he has played most of his career at a much higher level than Norburn can't see him wanting to be his understudy.
 
We were one of the favourites for relegation when he signed for us. It can't be a complete surprise to him that he's now playing in league one, even if he is a really good player. I doubt we're ready to sell him just yet, and I'm doubtful he's requested to leave either. You never know, but it just doesn't seem right to me. I could understand it totally if we fail to go up this season.
 
Stony Hill said:
And does Thompson fit the same thought?
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Maybe since he wasn’t a Critch signing, but I wouldn’t say they’re the same since Thompson wasn’t our best player over the last 10 games in the Championship like Lyons was.

Hell, you could even argue that outside of Yates, Lyons was our best performer last year, which is why it’s so egregious that he didn’t start. But it is only one game.

Just hope it’s Critch taking time to integrate and trust players he doesn’t know instead of him potentially being off.
 
A little bit gutted Apter wasn’t involved at all either. We do look light at the moment in forward positions for options and really thought this season could be one where he breaks through. I really really like the kid and i know it’s only one game but want him to get his oppertunity he’s been a joy to watch all pre season.
 
TrickyTangerine said:
A little bit gutted Apter wasn’t involved at all either. We do look light at the moment in forward positions for options and really thought this season could be one where he breaks through. I really really like the kid and i know it’s only one game but want him to get his oppertunity he’s been a joy to watch all pre season.
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I don’t see why Apter can’t come on today instead of Dale, who’s not worked here and doesn’t look like he will.

Obviously Apter wasn’t on the bench, but we’re using players who’ve not been good enough. May as well try ones who might be.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Maybe since he wasn’t a Critch signing, but I wouldn’t say they’re the same since Thompson wasn’t our best player over the last 10 games in the Championship like Lyons was.

Hell, you could even argue that outside of Yates, Lyons was our best performer last year, which is why it’s so egregious that he didn’t start. But it is only one game.

Just hope it’s Critch taking time to integrate and trust players he doesn’t know instead of him potentially being off.
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Or, as someone else indicated, he knows the team he wants to play on Tuesday, and felt (rightly) that the team he picked today were good enough to win. Keep the opposition guessing. We’ll soon know if that’s the case.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Maybe since he wasn’t a Critch signing, but I wouldn’t say they’re the same since Thompson wasn’t our best player over the last 10 games in the Championship like Lyons was.

Hell, you could even argue that outside of Yates, Lyons was our best performer last year, which is why it’s so egregious that he didn’t start. But it is only one game.

Just hope it’s Critch taking time to integrate and trust players he doesn’t know instead of him potentially being off.
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I watched a vastly improved team (specifically the first half) in tangerine this afternoon compared to any game last year (ok: Forest excepted). Why? Because, especially in the first half, the way we won possession AND kept it. Where did that come from? The new players? Critch’s coaching/order?
I hope Pennington came off more as a precaution than an injury. In fact, I was highly impressed by all our newbies.
Apart from the fact that we didn’t get a second half goal/another from Shane, the afternoon couldn’t have been better.
Which brings me to your thoughts on “new player integration”. Or should I say ‘new to Critch’? Lyons and Thompson in particular: both have their good/strong points. Critch is a highly rated coach. Why shouldn’t we trust that he will get the best out of them in the future?
 
Stony Hill said:
I watched a vastly improved team (specifically the first half) in tangerine this afternoon compared to any game last year (ok: Forest excepted). Why? Because, especially in the first half, the way we won possession AND kept it. Where did that come from? The new players? Critch’s coaching/order?
I hope Pennington came off more as a precaution than an injury. In fact, I was highly impressed by all our newbies.
Apart from the fact that we didn’t get a second half goal/another from Shane, the afternoon couldn’t have been better.
Which brings me to your thoughts on “new player integration”. Or should I say ‘new to Critch’? Lyons and Thompson in particular: both have their good/strong points. Critch is a highly rated coach. Why shouldn’t we trust that he will get the best out of them in the future?
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Very fair and true, it is probably whiny of me to criticize Critch after a 2-0 win just because he didn’t play one player.

Just don’t want to see a great player wasted, however you’re right and that we should trust that Critch will manage all players well to get the most out of this squad.
 
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