Uk Is a Facist State

Camberwell1 said:
Discuss - the evidence

Leaves the EU (no-one really understood/understands why
Exports any undesirables randomly to Rawanda
Elects a liar PM
Has a police force now with created powers than its Moscow equivalents and arrests lawyers (after threatening them first) for holding up blank pieces of paper (and he was a lawyer!)

So our visit to London in our Tangerine Crowns on Sat should be rather I terestibg - I will be taking my BASIL Legal Advisors with me naturally
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Nobody forced us to leave the EU, we voted and in full knowledge of the consequences. David Cameron sent me and every other voter a letter telling me exactly what it meant. The majority chose to leave anyway.

Every country on earth, reserves the right to allow/not allow people in. How they deal with that is a matter for them.

We don't elect a PM; we elect an MP been that way for years.

Our police have more powers than the Russians. I think it's the MP's who pass laws, who are democratically elected by the people.


I suggest you stand for election, convince people you have the answers and then change the system; obviously you can do all of that without fear - unlike proper fascist states.
 
Camberwell1 said:
Yes u do — keep sleeping through your life

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Want to know what a fascist state is like and why refugees try so hard and risk their lives to reach England to claim asylum?

Nurses_for_crisis nurse Marta Roscoe and colleagues at Wythenshawe Hospital in Greater Manchester visited an emergency hospital in Ukraine to help patients. She told Manchester Evening News: "People were ecstatic to see such a professional team from England - they believe that British medics are the best. It is absolutely brutal. Small children are being lined up and shot by Russian soldiers. But the trip was successful. In the short time available, we managed to provide training and basic first aid to the medical teams in Lviv Hospital, civilians and 100 teenagers in an orphanage. One of the patients, Pyotr, said he saw his neighbours put in a line, including small children and shot. According to soldiers, they were shaving the heads of little girls to make them look like boys, because the girls are being raped. Little boys were also being raped and shot, some as young as four-years-old. It makes you realise how lucky people are to live in England, this is happening just a three-hour plane ride away. The experience, the stories and the pain in their eyes gives you a different perspective on life." To follow Marta's stories on Instagram, visit @nurses_for_crisis.
 
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So, looking forward - Global Britain or Little England?

It's got Little England written all over it unfortunately.

No voice with the biggest and nearest trading block, a definite shift even further to the right with- Truss me Liz,
c5.0m workers on minimum wage struggling to make ends meet and just today the retail sales data 3 times worse than predicted.

Put your big undies on - its not going to be pretty whilst smirky Charles III fiddles
 
TSSeasider said:
Nobody forced us to leave the EU, we voted and in full knowledge of the consequences. David Cameron sent me and every other voter a letter telling me exactly what it meant. The majority chose to leave anyway.

Every country on earth, reserves the right to allow/not allow people in. How they deal with that is a matter for them.

We don't elect a PM; we elect an MP been that way for years.

Our police have more powers than the Russians. I think it's the MP's who pass laws, who are democratically elected by the people.


I suggest you stand for election, convince people you have the answers and then change the system; obviously you can do all of that without fear - unlike proper fascist states.
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Camberwell might have a chance if he could get the Daily Mail, The Telegraph, The Daily Express and The Sun to support his aims and ideas, without that he is probably up against even if he could send a bland and unexciting letter to every house like David Cameron.
A few billionaire tax exiles supporting.his campaign financially could also help, you know what those tax exiles are like they'd do almost anything to make life better for the majority of us and rarely think about their own priorities.
 
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April13th1970 said:
Not at all, but it's a country that is living the socialist worker's dream that so many on here seem to espouse
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I've never read one comment on here where somebody wants the UK to be more like North Korea.
I've read plenty where people have had enough of nearly 13 years of Tory misrule. Not wanting to live in a country that favours the billionaire donors of the Conservative party is not asking for us to become North Korea!
I think most just want a fairer, happier country with opportunities for all and more equality. Not North Korea!!
 
gjr69 said:
I've never read one comment on here where somebody wants the UK to be more like North Korea.
I've read plenty where people have had enough of nearly 13 years of Tory misrule.
Not wanting to live in a country that favours the billionaire donors of the Conservative party is not asking for us to become North Korea!
I think most just want a fairer, happier country with opportunities for all and more equality. Not North Korea!!
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I agree that most want a fairer, happier country with opportunities for all and more equality. They also want a party capable of running the country and a strong leader. When people vote at each general election they elect a party and a leader who they believe can fulfill these objectives. For almost a generation, this has been the Conservatives. This is democracy, not fascism. When the majority of voters decide that there is a better government and a better leader they will vote them in. That's democracy too.

I have to say, I've never heard of anyone leaving this country on the grounds that "it favours the billionaire donors of the Conservative party". People have much more important things going on in their lives.
 
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tommytwojags said:
I agree that most want a fairer, happier country with opportunities for all and more equality. They also want a party capable of running the country and a strong leader. When people vote at each general election they elect a party and a leader who they believe can fulfill these objectives. For almost a generation, this has been the Conservatives. This is democracy, not fascism. When the majority of voters decide that there is a better government and a better leader they will vote them in.
I have to say, I've never heard of anyone leaving this country on the grounds that "it favours the billionaire donors of the Conservative party". People have much more important things going on in their lives.
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Don't disagree with much of that. The thing about leaving the country it's not me or people like me saying they want to go. Its true blue Tories who often say if you don't like it go and live in North Korea, China, Russia, Afghanistan and the like.
I love it here, its my country I just wish it was better and changing the political system we have might help that to happen.
 
It’s a long way off tbh, based on experiences of being in countries with fascist dictators. However, the rise of mongs is worrying.
 
We are heading towards fascism, the evidence is clear but it's happening slowly. Boiled frog analogy comes to mind. We are also heading towards being a failed state. Largely due to brexit. But once people ( working people) are on their knees they are easier to control/ or will they rebel. That's the interesting question.
 
tommytwojags said:
When people vote at each general election they elect a party and a leader who they believe can fulfill these objectives.
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This is patently true at first, but both the last winners of the GE have then been ditched by their party, with major policy changes by the new Tory leader. When Brown took over from Blair, the policies on which Labour fought the GE continued. This change in particular has lurched way away from the centre, not a single person in the UK voted in a GE for Liz Truss's policies.
 
gjr69 said:
Camberwell might have a chance if he could get the Daily Mail, The Telegraph, The Daily Express and The Sun to support his aims and ideas, without that he is probably up against even if he could send a bland and unexciting letter to every house like David Cameron.
A few billionaire tax exiles supporting.his campaign financially could also help, you know what those tax exiles are like they'd do almost anything to make life better for the majority of us and rarely think about their own priorities.
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Giro
You have no idea at all what I am talking about and you couldn’t pay me to read most of those chip wrappers you mentioned !
 
Camberwell1 said:
Giro
You have no idea at all what I am talking about and you couldn’t pay me to read most of those chip wrappers you mentioned !
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I'm a straight forward bloke who does a straightforward working class job. Im not into calling people out and I won't get involved in your posts again because what's the point. And I actually think you have no idea what I was talking about or the message I was trying to put across so enjoy life in Camberwell where ever that is.
 
gjr69 said:
I'm a straight forward bloke who does a straightforward working class job. Im not into calling people out and I won't get involved in your posts again because what's the point. And I actually think you have no idea what I was talking about or the message I was trying to put across so enjoy life in Camberwell where ever that is.
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That’s fine and perfectly put and I will
 
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