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1950`spoolfan

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I see the much hyped Rory is failing to contend in a major yet again.How many is it now since he won one, about 24 and 7 years. With the greater pressure in majors he just flops time and time again as I forecast he would to much derision on here in 2015 when the signs were clearly showing! I wish I`d put money on him never winning another major as I posted on here then.
 
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1950`spoolfan said:
I see the much hyped Rory is failing to contend in a major yet again.How many is it now since he won one, about 24 and 7 years. With the greater pressure in majors he just flops time and time again as I forecast he would to much derision on here in 2015 when the signs were clearly showing! I wish I`d put money on him never winning another major as I posted on here then.
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Yeah really crap player, one major short of a Grand Slam! Recently won more in 4 days than you will earn in a lifetime!
 
Another pathetic post deriding a great British sportsman from some-one who seems to take great pleasure in enjoying the failure of Rory not having a great tournament.
Once again, he wants to be wise after the event. Bit like him telling you how good a racing tipster he is.
 
1950`spoolfan said:
I see the much hyped Rory is failing to contend in a major yet again.How many is it now since he won one, about 24 and 7 years. With the greater pressure in majors he just flops time and time again as I forecast he would to much derision on here in 2015 when the signs were clearly showing! I wish I`d put money on him never winning another major as I posted on here then.
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Don’t get too carried away. He has won 4 majors. Sevvy only won only one more. It’s a bit like any sport, no-one goes out to play poorly. Sometimes, the harder you try, the harder it is to succeed.
So long as he’s in top form for the Ryder Cup, eh?
 
CAGU said:
Yeah really crap player, one major short of a Grand Slam! Recently won more in 4 days than you will earn in a lifetime!
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Exactly CAGU, although to be fair to the opening poster, Rory's wealth hasn't got too much to do with the price of fish.

Rory is only 32, has won twice as many majors as the current world number one Dustin Johnson who is almost 5 years older than him.

Nobody in the top 100 in the world rankings has more majors than Rory's haul of 4 and only Koepka can match it.

I know you don't mean to tell you that they don't give majors away and that both Nicklaus and Woods had barren spells in majors during their careers.

Don't get me wrong, Rory is currently on a poor run of form - by his standards, although he does have 12 top 10's in majors since he last triumphed - in the majors and will be doing everything he can to put things right and to be fair to him it can't be a fortnight since he won at Quail Hollow and he was sent off favourite to win this week so he must be doing something right.
 
CAGU said:
Yeah really crap player, one major short of a Grand Slam! Recently won more in 4 days than you will earn in a lifetime!
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What an irrelevant comment .I am referring purely to his performances in majors SINCE he last won one 7 years back when I forecast because of the signs of pressure he had begun to show back then in 2015 that he may never win another( even though he`s still only 32 now.)His performances in majors since I posted that have been generally poor and are getting steadily worse. He is hugely talented but clearly the pressure of expectation in majors has increasingly had a significantly negative effect on his ability to play at his best and there is no sign that is changing.

As for your comment about his recent winnings compared to me do you really think that`s remotely relevant to my comments or don`t you think we are allowed to criticize or comment on those who earn more than us.

Or is that too difficult for you to grasp?
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Another pathetic post deriding a great British sportsman from some-one who seems to take great pleasure in enjoying the failure of Rory not having a great tournament.
Once again, he wants to be wise after the event. Bit like him telling you how good a racing tipster he is.
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And the usual predictable shite from you,but that`s entirely predictable.I posted my prediction on here in 2015 which knowing you you may actually recall and you have the cheek to call that being wise after the event.Amazing but coming from you I should not be surprised.

As for my racing bets I have had a poor run recently with 4 of the last 5 losing including one loser today although prior to that I had 10 out of 13 winners and since racing returned after lockdown on stakes varying between £20 and £40 I am showing an overall profit of £595.46.I keep meticulous records which are of course absolutely essential.
 
20togo said:
Another pathetic post deriding a great British sportsman from some-one who seems to take great pleasure in enjoying the failure of Rory not having a great tournament.
Once again, he wants to be wise after the event. Bit like him telling you how good a racing tipster he is.
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I wish I'd seen your post before I wasted my time doing mine.

50's "wishes" he'd backed Rory to never win another major, champion after timer of that there is no doubt, finds his voice after Rory finishes his third round.
 
1950`spoolfan said:
What an irrelevant comment .I am referring purely to his performances in majors SINCE he last won one 7 years back when I forecast because of the signs of pressure he had begun to show back then in 2015 that he may never win another( even though he`s still only 32 now.)His performances in majors since I posted that have been generally poor and are getting steadily worse. He is hugely talented but clearly the pressure of expectation in majors has increasingly had a significantly negative effect on his ability to play at his best and there is no sign that is changing.

As for your comment about his recent winnings compared to me do you really think that`s remotely relevant to my comments or don`t you think we are allowed to criticize or comment on those who earn more than us.

Or is that too difficult for you to grasp?

And the usual predictable shite from you,but that`s entirely predictable.I posted my prediction on here in 2015 which knowing you you may actually recall and you have the cheek to call that being wise after the event.Amazing but coming from you I should not be surprised.

As for my racing bets I have had a poor run recently with 4 of the last 5 losing including one loser today although prior to that I had 10 out of 13 winners and since racing returned after lockdown on stakes varying between £20 and £40 I am showing an overall profit of £595.46.I keep meticulous records which are of course absolutely essential.
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Sorry 50's, I certainly don't wish to be overly harsh on your goodself but surely you can't expect any credit for any selections that you don't put up before the off ?
 
1950`spoolfan said:
What an irrelevant comment .I am referring purely to his performances in majors SINCE he last won one 7 years back when I forecast because of the signs of pressure he had begun to show back then in 2015 that he may never win another( even though he`s still only 32 now.)His performances in majors since I posted that have been generally poor and are getting steadily worse. He is hugely talented but clearly the pressure of expectation in majors has increasingly had a significantly negative effect on his ability to play at his best and there is no sign that is changing.

As for your comment about his recent winnings compared to me do you really think that`s remotely relevant to my comments or don`t you think we are allowed to criticize or comment on those who earn more than us.

Or is that too difficult for you to grasp?

And the usual predictable shite from you,but that`s entirely predictable.I posted my prediction on here in 2015 which knowing you you may actually recall and you have the cheek to call that being wise after the event.Amazing but coming from you I should not be surprised.

As for my racing bets I have had a poor run recently with 4 of the last 5 losing including one loser today although prior to that I had 10 out of 13 winners and since racing returned after lockdown on stakes varying between £20 and £40 I am showing an overall profit of £595.46.I keep meticulous records which are of course absolutely essential.
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1950`spoolfan said:
What an irrelevant comment .I am referring purely to his performances in majors SINCE he last won one 7 years back when I forecast because of the signs of pressure he had begun to show back then in 2015 that he may never win another( even though he`s still only 32 now.)His performances in majors since I posted that have been generally poor and are getting steadily worse. He is hugely talented but clearly the pressure of expectation in majors has increasingly had a significantly negative effect on his ability to play at his best and there is no sign that is changing.

As for your comment about his recent winnings compared to me do you really think that`s remotely relevant to my comments or don`t you think we are allowed to criticize or comment on those who earn more than us.

Or is that too difficult for you to grasp?

And the usual predictable shite from you,but that`s entirely predictable.I posted my prediction on here in 2015 which knowing you you may actually recall and you have the cheek to call that being wise after the event.Amazing but coming from you I should not be surprised.

As for my racing bets I have had a poor run recently with 4 of the last 5 losing including one loser today although prior to that I had 10 out of 13 winners and since racing returned after lockdown on stakes varying between £20 and £40 I am showing an overall profit of £595.46.I keep meticulous records which are of course absolutely essential.
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The predictable shiite is from you. Read your o/p telling us how you were telling us all how shit McIlroy was back in 2015. And even now you've got to show off how great a tipster you think you are. All after the event. You think you are such a professional tipster that it's beneath you to enter FOR A BIT OF FUN a tipster competition on here. You want to wallow in a great British sportsmans failure as you deem it more important that you want to be proven right. How pathetic you are.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Sorry 50's, I certainly don't wish to be overly harsh on your goodself but surely you can't expect any credit for any selections that you don't put up before the off ?
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I’ve forgotten more about golf than you’ll ever know, I’ve known Rory since he was 14 and he’s a mercurial golfer who has a few more majors in him believe me. Nicklaus won well into his 40’s and Leftie had a chance this week. Fecking armchair golfers!
 
CAGU said:
I’ve forgotten more about golf than you’ll ever know, I’ve known Rory since he was 14 and he’s a mercurial golfer who has a few more majors in him believe me. Nicklaus won well into his 40’s and Leftie had a chance this week. Fecking armchair golfers!
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Sorry CAGU but I was not doubting your golfing knowledge for a second.

Read my reply to you again and I'm sure you will see that I am agreeing with you.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Sorry 50's, I certainly don't wish to be overly harsh on your goodself but surely you can't expect any credit for any selections that you don't put up before the off ?
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I don`t put them on here purely because of the hassle from 20`s although I should remind you that last time I put any on here in 2020 between 28th Feb and 4th March 4 out of five won and one poster on here said he`d won about £115 on a £2.50 ew accumulator as I recall on the first 3 which all won .
I don`t want or seek any credit and and am happy to just bet for my own benefit.I only mention it because of 20`s characteristically snide remarks which as ever are well wide of the mark.He raised the subject not me and I won`t mention it again.
 
1950`spoolfan said:
I don`t put them on here purely because of the hassle from 20`s although I should remind you that last time I put any on here in 2020 between 28th Feb and 4th March 4 out of five won and one poster on here said he`d won about £115 on a £2.50 ew accumulator as I recall on the first 3 which all won .
I don`t want or seek any credit and and am happy to just bet for my own benefit.I only mention it because of 20`s characteristically snide remarks which as ever are well wide of the mark.He raised the subject not me and I won`t mention it again.
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To be fair to 20's, he doesn't stop you putting your selections on here - he couldn't even if he had the desire - and I appreciate that you have no obligation to put them up.

No big deal and I'm not trying to crucify you but I do feel that you can't expect credit for selections unless you put them up before the off.

Not that you are looking for any credit.

Apologies if I was out of order with my other posts, we've been there before and we are not going to agree.

I am not sure we are necessarily disagreeing, I think I maybe focus more on Rory's outstanding achievements than on his recent poor run in majors.

We probably just disagree on his future success - or lack of it - in majors, I still think he will win a major and possibly multiple majors and you disagree.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
To be fair to 20's, he doesn't stop you putting your selections on here - he couldn't even if he had the desire - and I appreciate that you have no obligation to put them up.

No big deal and I'm not trying to crucify you but I do feel that you can't expect credit for selections unless you put them up before the off.

Not that you are looking for any credit.

Apologies if I was out of order with my other posts, we've been there before and we are not going to agree.

I am not sure we are necessarily disagreeing, I think I maybe focus more on Rory's outstanding achievements than on his recent poor run in majors.

We probably just disagree on his future success - or lack of it - in majors, I still think he will win a major and possibly multiple majors and you disagree.
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It`s all about opinions on here and it would be exceedingly dull if we all agreed on everything.My views on McIlroy are obviously not shared by others on here,fair enough but when I first posted on here some 6 years ago that I suggested he would never win another major not many if any would have agreed that by 2021 he still wouldn`t have won another but uncannily that`s what`s happened. As to the future we`ll have to wait and see who`s right and who`s wrong.That`s the fun of it.
 
Rory won the Wells Fargo less than 2 weeks ago beating a stellar field. To say he's lost it is utter bollocks and showing an epic lack of knowledge of golf.
 
Macseasider said:
Rory won the Wells Fargo less than 2 weeks ago beating a stellar field. To say he's lost it is utter bollocks and showing an epic lack of knowledge of golf.
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Please pay attention.The discussion was purely about winning MAJORS only, where the pressure is acknowledged to be at its greatest.I`ve been right for 6 years now and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest I should change my mind.

Nicklaus once said he found majors the easiest to win because so many were out of contention as they could not cope with the pressure and by inference he could which is fair comment. McIroy`s pure talent won him his first 4 but it is clear to anyone who cares to look that as he has got a little older, perhaps weighed down by expectations and pressure in majors, he is consistently failing to play at his best.
 
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Please pay attention.The discussion was purely about winning MAJORS only, where the pressure is acknowledged to be at its greatest.I`ve been right for 6 years now and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest I should change my mind.

Nicklaus once said he found majors the easiest to win because so many were out of contention as they could not cope with the pressure and by inference he could which is fair comment. McIroy`s pure talent won him his first 4 but it is clear to anyone who cares to look that as he has got a little older, in majors he is consistently failing to play at his best.
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I don't think PGA players play under any more pressure in majors than they do in PGA events in modern golf. The pots are so ridiculously high (with the addition of FedEx points and Ryder Cup points) that the pressure of finishing is there every week and therefore the norm. The standard of golf today is phenomenal and it's become an absolute rarity to get the same winner in consecutive weeks or even months.

All in all yes the majors have a historical pressure element to them but financially no more so than any premium event on the PGA.
 
The only real 'droughts' that any of the greats have had longer than four years was Woods and Nicklaus, neither really count as Jack was winding down by the time of his Masters win in 86 and Woods was obviously going through all sorts in the interval.

The longest apart from that from any of the legends still in their prime was four years and Seve, even then his back had gone to pieces, Watson, Hogan, Player, Palmer etc.. all won consistently (Hogan got his nine majors in seven years including a near fatal car crash in the middle of the run).

Rory is still young though and he'll win another.
 
Gary said:
Will never understand why Rory tried to change his swing so drastically after it won him 4 majors.

Hope Phil does it.
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I certainly agree with that. Driving has for years been his greatest strength just about the best on the tour, now he`s tried to change his swing to get a fade it is far less consistent,erratic and no longer a great strength.

Kaymer tried to change his swing a few years ago I think it was in an attempt to get a draw,it might have been to get a fade,and has never been the same player since.
 
It's more important for the o/p to tell us what he was saying years ago and to be proven right than any interest or caring if Rory can win another major. The focus of all his posts are about himself rather than the golf.
 
20togo said:
It's more important for the o/p to tell us what he was saying years ago and to be proven right than any interest or caring if Rory can win another major. The focus of all his posts are about himself rather than the golf.
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Unlike you of course 20`s probably the most intransigent, argumentative know all known to mankind and certainly on AVFTT.

I only refer to my long ago(2015) post about Rory not winning another major because I have, whenever I referred to it, got so much flak from the likes of you and one or two others and yet with each year that passes(6 or 7 years and 24 majors now) have you noticed whose prediction continues to hold up? That is obviously very hard for a know all like you to take just as with my successful betting results it seems.

I hope one day you acknowledge how wrong you have continued to be and profusely apologize as you certainly should but knowing the type you are when I even contemplate that I can see many pigs flying past my widow so I won`t be holding my breath.

PS Actually nothing would please me more than to see Rory win another major.It`s just so frustrating to see a player with his exceptional talent not able to produce it when he needs it most but it`s an undeniable truth to those who choose not to ignore the evidence in front of their eyes.
 
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1950`spoolfan said:
Unlike you of course 20`s probably the most intransigent, argumentative know all known to mankind and certainly on AVFTT.

I only refer to my long ago(2015) post about Rory not winning another major because I have, whenever I referred to it, got so much flak from the likes of you and one or two others and yet with each year that passes(6 or 7 years and 24 majors now) have you noticed whose prediction continues to hold up? That is obviously very hard for a know all like you to take just as with my successful betting results it seems.

I hope one day you acknowledge how wrong you have continued to be and profusely apologize as you certainly should but knowing the type you are when I even contemplate that I can see many pigs flying past my widow so I won`t be holding my breath.

PS Actually nothing would please me more than to see Rory win another major.It`s just so frustrating to see a player with his exceptional talent not able to produce it when he needs it most but it`s an undeniable truth to those who choose not to ignore the evidence in front of their eyes.
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Yawn! More important for you to be proven right, just read your own o/p.
 
As with any prediction there is little point in making them if you don`t check them out and whether it be golf or horse racing or any other topic when you are right gain a little confidence and satisfaction from your judgement and more importantly when you are wrong learn a lot from your mistakes.

Do you ever acknowledge when you get it wrong and learn not to be such a know all about things that you so obviously know so little?🤣🤣🤣 I think we all know the answer to that.
 
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Looks like Phil has done it. Incredible performance. He has driven the golf ball bullet straight. Great stuff.
 
Considering there are only 4 majors a year with the competition getting tougher each year, Rory has had a cracking career and has every chance of winning more. Its more than Westwood will ever win, he's an amazing players as well
 
playing solid golf whilst others are making mistakes. Still though, every hole is tough and two or three shot turn arounds can happen.
 
On a course like this you aren't safe until you are on the 18th green needing 3 putts for victory. A brute of a course with the elements making it all that much harder. I didn't see this coming from Phil. If he were to win it though, I would be delighted.

On the topic of Rory. I said it 3 years ago and the same still stands. His problem is between the ears more than anything. It wouldn't surprise me if he wins another major. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't. He's had a hell of a career though and we should all be proud of his achievements.
 
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