Wearing a Mask in the Ground

Will you wear a mask in the ground?

  • Yes

    Votes: 101 51.8%

  • No

    Votes: 93 47.7%
  • Total voters
    195
cresser said:
No. Won't be wearing one in the ground..out of the ground or hopefully anywhere ever again. I've had Covid..can't spread it and have natural immunity for life. Besides I don't believe masks do much good anyway..other than make some people feel 'safe' which is driven by propaganda in the media.
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An interesting, but somewhat naive view Cresser - I guess we're all different in our beliefs.
- Natural immunity post infection is not proven over a 6-12 month period yet
- You can still carry the virus in your nose/mouth and infect others if you don't wear a mask - there are plenty of old/vulnerable folk that will be at the ground to infect.
- There are circa 15 different COVID variants, so if you believe your T cell immunity from a single variant infection is strong enough to give you natural immunity for life, then rock on............

Media propaganda eh?

p.s. I'm glad you recovered ok :)
 
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HetzkeBlaster said:
An interesting, but somewhat naive view Cresser - I guess we're all different in our beliefs.
- Natural immunity post infection is not proven over a 6-12 month period yet
- You can still carry the virus in your nose/mouth and infect others if you don't wear a mask - there are plenty of old/vulnerable folk that will be at the ground to infect.
- There are circa 15 different COVID variants, so if you believe your T cell immunity from a single variant infection is strong enough to give you natural immunity for life, then rock on............

Media propaganda eh?

p.s. I'm glad you recovered ok :)
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Hetzke. Not a naive view at all. And by saying it is makes you sound superior. Course I don't know how long natural immunity will last but I strongly believe that it will last longer than immunity offered by the double jab. But of course time will tell. Look at how many double jabbed are catching the delta variant at the moment..and not all in a mild way. On the subject of variants I believe a variant differs from the main virus by about 3%..so yes I do believe I will have enough T- cell immunity from any further variants. But if I do catch covid again I will let you know and admit I was wrong in my assumption..however you may have to wait several years or more for my confirmation.
 
cresser said:
Hetzke. Not a naive view at all. And by saying it is makes you sound superior. Course I don't know how long natural immunity will last but I strongly believe that it will last longer than immunity offered by the double jab. But of course time will tell. Look at how many double jabbed are catching the delta variant at the moment..and not all in a mild way. On the subject of variants I believe a variant differs from the main virus by about 3%..so yes I do believe I will have enough T- cell immunity from any further variants. But if I do catch covid again I will let you know and admit I was wrong in my assumption..however you may have to wait several years or more for my confirmation.
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Cresser, most people catching the delta variant severely and are admitted to hospital are unvaccinated. This is the same reason for ICU admissions. My partner is an intensive care doctor at MRI so my information is first hand. PS glad you’ve recovered 👍🏻
 
cresser said:
Hetzke. Not a naive view at all. And by saying it is makes you sound superior. Course I don't know how long natural immunity will last but I strongly believe that it will last longer than immunity offered by the double jab. But of course time will tell. Look at how many double jabbed are catching the delta variant at the moment..and not all in a mild way. On the subject of variants I believe a variant differs from the main virus by about 3%..so yes I do believe I will have enough T- cell immunity from any further variants. But if I do catch covid again I will let you know and admit I was wrong in my assumption..however you may have to wait several years or more for my confirmation.
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Didn't intend to come across that way, superior that is. Time will tell, as you say
 
"Yes I'll wear a mask" is still ahead and looking strong but, "no, I'm an anti-social sod with no intention of doing so" is catching up as we enter the home straight.....Peter O'Sullevan....
 
DiggersBFC said:
Since the research did not find a statistically significant result for the effect of masks on SARS-CoV-2 infection, the conclusion we must draw is that masks give a protection that is less than 50%. That is a very important message to give to the many people thinking that masks give a protection that is close to 100%.
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Surely nobody thought masks gave 100% protection? The science, as you say, says less than 50%. But surely that's still pretty good, for a mask that is at worst mildly uncomfortable to wear, even if it offered 20 or even 10% protection, surely it's worth it in crowded places? If you get enough of these protections combined at whatever percentage they offer (vaccines, washing hands, distancing) it reduces your chance of catching it or passing it onto someone vulnerable

For the record I'd wear a mask moving around and going in and out the ground but take it off in my seat
 
Businesses are still entitled to request that you wear a mask unless exempt, so it might be down to the club to make a decision, or the EFL may make a league-wide policy - they may feel that with rates rising, it would reflect badly if they allowed thousands of fans with no masks, at lease in enclosed areas.
 
GodBlessTheSouthStand said:
Nope, won't be wearing one. Not required by law to do so.
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Bit silly that isn't it? You might as well say, I'm not required by law to save someone from drowning so I'm not going to do it. The point is, the law is there to control issues that may cause problems without enforcement. Wearing a mask should be a matter of common sense.
 
Now I think about it the concourse for the North and West don't seem a brilliant place to avoid COVID in, they get absolutely rammed and everyone is packed in like sardines. The South Stand faithful will be alright with their lovely spacious concourse!
 
cresser said:
No. Won't be wearing one in the ground..out of the ground or hopefully anywhere ever again. I've had Covid..can't spread it and have natural immunity for life. Besides I don't believe masks do much good anyway..other than make some people feel 'safe' which is driven by propaganda in the media.
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Except there are documented cases of people catching it more than once.
 
At the start of mask wearing comparisons where made how Asians wore them to protect themselves from pollution and viruses now it's gone full circle to stop you spreading Covid everyone is coming out with!

So they don't work unless you get the surgical grade ones or how else would we have been recently having 50k cases a day.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I voted yes but it's a two-part thing. Watching the match, probably not; entering, exiting and moving around - yes.
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Could be argued a bigger risk sat in your seat (or stood up) with a crowd all singing and shouting around you. It's aerosolville.
I know people who are double jabbed got it and have symptoms, not bad though, but a reminder what we are dealing with. Still feel a bit worried a vaccine resistant strain could yet hit .
But will be at Bristol. With mask more than likely.
And they aren't comfort blankets, they reduce risk.
 
brightontangerine said:
Could be argued a bigger risk sat in your seat (or stood up) with a crowd all singing and shouting around you. It's aerosolville.
I know people who are double jabbed got it and have symptoms, not bad though, but a reminder what we are dealing with. Still feel a bit worried a vaccine resistant strain could yet hit .
But will be at Bristol. With mask more than likely.
And they aren't comfort blankets, they reduce risk.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1416382528664096770
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It's just sensible to keep wearing it where you would have before, unless you're a FREEDOM JUSTICE WARRIOR OF TRUTH or something.

It reminds me of when seatbelts were first required by law back when I was a kid.
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I wouldn't disagree...
 
HetzkeBlaster said:
Diggers, here’s a different view on masks (not copied and pasted).
The primary reason to wear a mask is not for personal protection but to prevent you infecting others, especially if you’re asymptomatic. Therefore, the more that wear masks gives you all protection by default. Just a different personal view of course…….
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And as I said, you're entitled to your personal view. I'll stick with the (copied and pasted) data from the British Medical Journal, citing a peer reviewed scientific study as the basis for mine though.
 
DiggersBFC said:
And as I said, you're entitled to your personal view. I'll stick with the (copied and pasted) data from the British Medical Journal, citing a peer reviewed scientific study as the basis for mine though.
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That’s fine Diggers……… but did you vote yes or no? 🤔 😉
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Bit silly that isn't it? You might as well say, I'm not required by law to save someone from drowning so I'm not going to do it. The point is, the law is there to control issues that may cause problems without enforcement. Wearing a mask should be a matter of common sense.
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Are you going to be wearing a mask for the rest of your life? Flu season will be coming up soon, and every year after that. If you're scared of COVID still why don't you self isolate until it's over. I'm not responsible for anyone else's health than mine. Hence the double jab.
 
Just revisiting this one - anyone still planning on wearing one tonight?
Initially I thought I would but I was in a pub last night, stood at the bar with strangers, the loo was busy when I went in and actually there was a lot less ventilation than at Bloomfield Road and with a smaller attendance I reckon I'll only stick one on if my nose gets cold!
 
Human beings are an odd lot. Passive smoking kills loads of people, but that doesn't seem to register as a risk worth fretting about. The risk of dying from COVID in the UK is now tiny. Go figure.

The first global study into the effects of passive smoking has estimated it causes 600,000 deaths every year. One-third of those killed are children, often exposed to smoke at home, the World Health Organization (WHO) suggested.
 
GodBlessTheSouthStand said:
Are you going to be wearing a mask for the rest of your life? Flu season will be coming up soon, and every year after that. If you're scared of COVID still why don't you self isolate until it's over. I'm not responsible for anyone else's health than mine. Hence the double jab.
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Whilst this will probably be dismissed as reactionary by many ... there's a lot of common sense in it. I have sympathy with those who are vulnerable or 'at risk' but the country has just spent the last year and more pursuing policies to help protect them.

Time for the kids to be prioritised methinks.

If you are worried, stay in.
 
Probably won't wear it for 90 minutes when I'm in my seat but I'll probably wear it around the concourse etc. It's still pretty rife, I don't want to catch it and spread it to my family and wearing a mask isn't hard.
 
Well not a soul was wearing one in the North for the Burnley game if your that worried just avoid the concourse.
 
Been for a pint in a few fairly quiet places & not felt the need to wear a mask. But I probably will if faced with a packed area, I don’t intend to go into the bar areas yet anyway. I’ll take it off when I’m at my seat.
 
I don't give a toss what others do now, each to their own, but I'll wear mine getting in and most likely in my seat too, for the time being. I don't mind wearing one anyway tbh and I've been considering keeping wearing one in busy indoor places from now on. I've got a shite chest so it's not a bad way to lower the chance of catching flu and such. That's just me assessing my personal risks and it's something entirely in my control that impacts nobody else.
 
I’ve just read the supporters code of conduct that the club have tweeted out. This has been updated since the Oxford game and says about masks:

‘Face coverings must be worn when entering the stadium and when in enclosed areas such as the concourses, toilets and in hospitality areas. This is not required in the stadium bowl but you may consider it appropriate to do so. Face coverings do not need to be worn whilst eating, consuming drinks or if exempt’
 
I never put a mask on when entering the ground against Burnley.
 
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